Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came: A Podcast about Stephen King and His Books
Jay Russo and Sean McGurr
Every other week, Jay and Sean discuss the characters, connections, and deeper meanings of Stephen King’s magnum opus, The Dark Tower. We will then quest beyond the Tower and continue to explore King's library.
Ep. 162 Joyland, second third
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the second third of Joyland.
Introduction (00:00)
Superpowers (01:40)
Breezy contemplations (10:09)
Dark Tower Thinnies (23:03)
Yuck-King it Up (25:03)
Fun Stuff (28:35)
Other Worlds than These (32:33)
Jay: Silo (Apple TV)
Sean: Cunk on Earth (Netflix)
Outro (41:15)
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Ep. 161 Joyland, first third
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the first third of Joyland.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:51)
Publication history (01:16)
It’s all about a vibe (02:15)
The mystery (11:23)
Dark Tower Thinnies (19:46)
“The Sick Rose” by William Blake (22:08)
Yuck-King it Up (23:13)
Fun Stuff (26:03)
Middle Aged Dad Jam Band; YouTube channel
Other Worlds than These (32:10)
Outro (36:07)
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Ep. 160 The Colorado Kid, Chapters 13-18 and the Afterword
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Colorado Kid, Chapters 13-18 and the afterword.
Introduction (00:00)
What are our theories (02:32)
Becoming part of a community (13:38)
Did the story work? (20:52)
Dark Tower Thinnies (27:42)
Yuck-King It Up (31:07)
Fun Stuff (31:35)
Other Worlds Than These (35:35)
Sean: The Agency (Showtime), Treason (Netflix), London Spy (Netflix), Black Doves (Netflix)
Jay: Logan Lucky (2017), “One More Minute” (Weird Al)
Outro (44:47)
Le
Ep. 159 The Colorado Kid, Chapters 5-12
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Colorado Kid, chapters 5 – 12.
Introduction (00:12)
Recap (00:47)
A non-story story (01:17)
Educating Steffi (11:37)
Dark Tower Thinnies (17:47)
Yuck-King it Up (18:18)
Fun Stuff (21:05)
Other Worlds than These (25:59)
Outro (30:09)
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Ep. 158 The Colorado Kid, Chapters 1-4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Colorado Kid, chapters 1 – 4.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication History (01:20)
Maine island communities (09:38)
Relationship between the three main characters (14:35)
Dark Tower Thinnies (23:55)
Yuck-King it Up (24:41)
Fun Stuff (28:45)
Other Worlds than These (33:23)
L.A. Law (1986) created by Steven Bochco
The Decameron (2024) created by Kathleen Jordan
Spoon River Anthology (1915) by Edgar Lee Masters
Outro (47:1
We’re Back!
We’ve been on a break, but we are excited to get back into discussing Stephen King books. We are going to start off with a season focusing on King’s crime novels, specifically, the three books he wrote for the Hard Case Crime imprint.
In our first episode back, we’ll cover The Colorado Kid, Chapters 1-4. Hope you’ll join us! New episode on January 9, 2025!
Bonus Episode: Lunch at the Gotham Cafe (Everything’s Eventual) (November 2022)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from November 2022. Enjoy!
In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “Lunch at the Gotham Cafe” from the short story collection Everything’s Eventual.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication history (01:37)
What’s so scary? (06:35)
Hey, Guy! (14:51)
Bonus Episode: The Cat from Hell (Just After Sunset) (May 2023)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from May 2023. Enjoy!
In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “The Cat from Hell” found in Just After Sunset.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication history (01:21)
What do we think of this story? (03:56)
Movie adaptation (11:
Bonus Episode: Harvey’s Dream (Just After Sunset) (February 2023)
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In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “Harvey’s Dream” found in the Just After Sunset collection.
Introduction (00:13)
Publication history (01:11)
Ghost story (03:13)
Build up of dre
Bonus Episode: Carrie (1976)
In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the 1976 movie adaptation, Carrie.
Introduction (00:14)
Facts and Figures (01:29)
Adaptation (09:39)
Themes (29:11)
Our thoughts on the movie (33:51)
Dark Tower Thinnies (35:16)
Bonus Episode: The Road Virus Heads North (Everything’s Eventual) (September 2022)
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In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “The Road Virus Heads North” from the collection Everything’s Eventual.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication history (01:27)
The threat of popularity (06:07)
Nevermind the fan relationship: King’s just spinning a yarn (13:43)
Dark Tower Thinnies (20:19)
Yuck-King It Up (23:
Bonus Episode: The Lawnmower Man (Night Shift) (April 2021)
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In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “The Lawnmower Man” found in the collection Night Shift.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication History (01:15)
Cavalier Magazine
Bonus Episode: All That You Love Will Be Carried Away (Everything’s Eventual) (August 2022)
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In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “All That You Love Will Be Carried Away” from the Everything’s Eventual collection.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication history (01:22)
Nondescript (04:59)
Creativity keeps you going throu
Bonus Episode: L.T.’s Theory of Pets (Skeleton Crew) (May 2022)
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In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “L.T.’s Theory of Pets” from the collection Everything’s Eventual.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication history (01:16)
Structure and narration (02:36)
Bonus Episode: 1408 (Everything’s Eventual) (June 2022)
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In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “1408” found in Everything’s Eventual.
Introduction (00:00)
Background (01:32)
Related to The Shining (11:01)
Bonus Episode: Survivor Type (Skeleton Crew) (November 2021)
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In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “Survivor Type” found in Skeleton Crew.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication History (01:26)
Richard Pine is an asshole (05:03)
But is he just a survivor? (10:45)
Dark Tower Thinnies (21:49)
Yuck-King It Up (22:47)
Fun Stuff (25:06)
Outro (29:13)
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Bonus Episode: ‘Salem’s Lot (2024)
In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the 2024 adaptation of Salem’s Lot, directed by Gary Dauberman. Introduction (00:13) Recap (00:52) Podcast coverage (01:53) Cast and crew (04:03) Lewis Pullman (Ben Mears) Jordan Preston Carter (Mark Petrie) Makenzie Leigh (Susan Norton) Alfre Woodard (Dr. Cody) Bill Camp (Matt … Continue reading Bonus Episode: ‘Salem’s Lot (2024) →
Bonus Episode: The Ledge (Night Shift) (March 2021)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from March 2021. Enjoy! In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “The Ledge” found in Night Shift. Introduction (00:00) Publication History (01:47) The Story (04:38) Dark Tower Thinnies (12:08) Yuck-King … Continue reading Bonus Episode: The Ledge (Night Shift) (March 2021) →
Bonus Episode: The Mangler (Night Shift) (February 2021)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from February 2021. Enjoy! In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “The Mangler” from Night Shift. Introduction (00:16) Publication History (01:46) Hits and misses (05:02) Dark Tower Thinnies (18:10) Yuck-King … Continue reading Bonus Episode: The Mangler (Night Shift) (February 2021) →
Bonus Episode: Gray Matter (Night Shift) (January 2021)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from November 2021. Enjoy! In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “Gray Matter” from Night Shift. Introduction (00:00) Publication History (01:13) A Great Little Story (02:48) The Language in the … Continue reading Bonus Episode: Gray Matter (Night Shift) (January 2021) →
Bonus Episode: I Am the Doorway (Night Shift) (October 2020)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from October 2020. Enjoy! In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “I Am the Doorway” found in Night Shift. Introduction (00:11) Publication history (01:13) Structure: Lots of … Continue reading Bonus Episode: I Am the Doorway (Night Shift) (October 2020) →
Bonus Episode: Ballad of the Flexible Bullet (Skeleton Crew) (October 2021)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from October 2021. Enjoy! In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “The Ballad of the Flexible Bullet” found in Skeleton Crew. Introduction (00:00) Publication History (1:18) Madness … Continue reading Bonus Episode: Ballad of the Flexible Bullet (Skeleton Crew) (October 2021) →
Bonus Episode: The Reach (Skeleton Crew) (September 2021)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from September 2021. Enjoy! In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “The Reach” found in Skeleton Crew. Introduction (00:13) Publication history (01:08) Exemplar of a (gothic) short story (03:37) Too … Continue reading Bonus Episode: The Reach (Skeleton Crew) (September 2021) →
Bonus Episode: Word Processor of the Gods (Skeleton Crew) (August 2021)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from August 2021. Enjoy! In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “Word Processor of the Gods” found in Skeleton Crew. Introduction (00:00) Publication history (01:20) Monkey’s paw … Continue reading Bonus Episode: Word Processor of the Gods (Skeleton Crew) (August 2021) →
Bonus Episode: The Raft (Skeleton Crew) (July 2021)
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Bonus Episode: Here There Be Tygers (Skeleton Crew) (June 2021)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from June 2021. Enjoy! In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “Here There Be Tygers” from Skeleton Crew. Introduction (00:13) Publication history (01:23) Shame and dread (03:40) … Continue reading Bonus Episode: Here There Be Tygers (Skeleton Crew) (June 2021) →
Bonus Episode: The Last Rung on the Ladder (Night Shift) (June 2020)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from June 2020. Enjoy! In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “The Last Rung on the Ladder” found in Night Shift. Introduction (00:09) Recap (00:40) John D. MacDonald intro (01:14) … Continue reading Bonus Episode: The Last Rung on the Ladder (Night Shift) (June 2020) →
Bonus Episode: Night Surf (Night Shift) (May 2020)
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Bonus Episode: Mrs. Todd’s Shortcut (Night Shift) (April 2020)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from April 2020. Enjoy! In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “Mrs. Todd’s Shortcut,” found in Night Shift. Introduction (00:13) Recap (00:41) Publication history (01:07) Homer’s decision (08:05) The titular … Continue reading Bonus Episode: Mrs. Todd’s Shortcut (Night Shift) (April 2020) →
Bonus Episode: Nona (Skeleton Crew) (February 2020)
Note: We are publishing short story bonus podcasts that were previously only available via Patreon. This episode is from February 2020. Enjoy! In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Stephen King’s short story, Nona, found in Skeleton Crew. Introduction (00:11) Counter-culture (00:57) An unreliable narrator (04:59) Thinnies (14:52) … Continue reading Bonus Episode: Nona (Skeleton Crew) (February 2020) →
Ep. 157 The Talisman, Part 4, chapters 34-47
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we finish The Talisman, Part 4, Chapters 34-47. Introduction (00:00) On the subject of twinners (01:40) What is the talisman (10:30) Dark Tower Thinnies (16:47) Yuck-King It Up (24:57) Fun Stuff (27:44) Wrapping up The Talisman (34:50) Other Worlds Than These (42:09) Sean: Black … Continue reading Ep. 157 The Talisman, Part 4, chapters 34-47 →
Ep. 156 The Talisman, Part 3, chapters 27-33 and Interlude
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman, Part 3, “A Collision of Worlds,” chapters 27-33, and Interlude. Introduction (00:00) The power of storytelling (01:31) A collision of worlds (11:37) Late world building (22:41) Dark Tower Thinnies (28:58) Yuck-King It Up (30:07) Fun Stuff (34:13) Other Worlds Than … Continue reading Ep. 156 The Talisman, Part 3, chapters 27-33 and Interlude →
Bonus Episode 45 – “The Cat From Hell” (Patreon Clip)
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Ep. 155 The Talisman, Part 3, chapters 20-26
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman, Part 3, “A Collision of Worlds,” chapters 20-26.
Introduction (00:00)
The Sunlight Home (01:47)
The Territories are a reflection of our world (13:56)
Sacrifice is necessary along a hero’s journey (20:14)
Dark Tower Thinnies (24:31)
Yuck-King It Up (27:04)
Fun Stuff (28:27)
Other Worlds Than These (31:48)
Jay: See How They Run (2022)
Sean: Dead Ringers (2023)
Outro (37:35)
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Hiatus Announcement
Greetings, constant listeners! Thank you so much for listening to our show. You may have noticed we have missed our regularly scheduled publish dates. Everything is OK, but there has been a lot going on in our personal lives. So, we are going to take a hiatus. We have all the Talisman episodes recorded and they will come out as we edit and post them. We also have several bonus episodes for our Patrons recorded and they too will be coming out soon, too.
While we’re on hiatus, keep in touch! You c
Ep. 154 The Talisman, Part 2, chapters 14-19
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman, Part 2, “The Road of Trials,” Chapters 14-19. Introduction (00:13) Cool world building (02:06) Too much “Y” and not enough “A” (12:36) Dark Tower Thinnies (20:19) Yuck-King it Up (25:39) Fun Stuff (27:21) Other Worlds than These (31:52) Outro (37:09) … Continue reading Ep. 154 The Talisman, Part 2, chapters 14-19 →
Ep. 153 The Talisman, Part 2, chapters 6-13
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman, Part II, chapters 6-13.
Introduction (00:00)
Struggling with the book (01:45)
Jack’s first trial (05:54)
Jack’s dad in the Territories (14:01)
Dark Tower Thinnies (19:52)
Yuck-King It Up (23:06)
Fun Stuff (25:54)
Other Worlds Than These topics (31:21):
Jay: Succession on HBOMax
Sean: Chernobyl on HBOMax
Outro (36:24)
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Ep. 152 The Talisman, Part 1, chapters 1-5
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Talisman, Part 1, “Jack Lights Out.”
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:50)
Publication/Our history (01:57)
Things are getting started (07:30)
Jack’s relationships (13:24)
Dark Tower Thinnies (20:30)
Yuck-King it Up (23:34)
Thank you, Patrons! (24:54)
Fun Stuff (25:42)
Other Worlds than These (32:07)
Outro (35:24)
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Ep. 151 Carrie, Part 3
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Carrie, Part 3, “Wreckage,” and our final thoughts on the novel.
Introduction (00:13)
Ending structure is not great (01:49)
Ending writing is good (07:55)
Dark Tower Thinnies (12:20)
Yuck King It Up (13:41)
Reviews (15:43)
Our thoughts (20:05)
Fun Stuff (20:48)
Other Worlds Than These (24:06):
Perry Mason on HBO
The Last of Us on HBO
Outro (31:49)
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Bonus Episode 43 – The Dead Zone adaptation (Patreon Clip)
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Ep. 150 Carrie, Part 2
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Carrie, Part 2, “Prom Night.”
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:49)
Carrie’s powers (02:13)
If Carrie didn’t die (07:48)
King’s characters (12:50)
Dark Tower Thinnies (24:02)
Yuck-King it Up (26:57)
Fun Stuff (29:19)
Other Worlds than These (36:45)
Outro (40:59)
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Ep. 149 Carrie, Part 1
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Carrie, Part 1.
Introduction (00:13)
Publication history (01:34)
Book structure (08:17)
Women run the show (18:45)
Scapegoats (22:24)
Dark Tower Thinnies (26:06)
Yuck-King It Up (32:32)
Thank you, Patrons! (33:57)
Fun Stuff (35:06)
Other Worlds Than These (41:27)
Outro (47:08)
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Bonus Episode 42 – Harvey’s Dream (Patreon Clip)
A new bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is an excerpt of our discussion of the short story “Harvey’s Dream” found in the Just After Sunset collection.
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Ep. 148 The Dead Zone, chapters 24-28 and final thoughts
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dead Zone, chapters 24-28 and our final thoughts.
Introduction (00:00)
A man on borrowed time, not outside of time (01:23)
Three questions about morality (06:49)
It has to do (16:44)
Dark Tower Thinnies (21:15)
YuckKing It Up (22:29)
Fun Stuff (26:50)
Final thoughts (32:20)
NY Times review
Washington Post interview with King
Washington Post review
Other Worlds Than These (41:21)
Outro (46:30)
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Ep. 147 The Dead Zone, chapters 17-23
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dead Zone, chapters 17-23.
Introduction (00:00)
The Laughing Tiger (01:41)
Johnny asks the question (09:01)
Johnny is falling apart (19:20)
Dark Tower Thinnies (27:01)
No Yuck-King It up (32:08)
Fun Stuff (34:08)
Other Worlds Than These (43:35)
Top 10 Awesome Christopher Walken Dance Moments
Outro (47:02)
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Bonus Episode 41 – The Simpsons “Not It” (Patreon Clip)
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Ep. 146 The Dead Zone, chapters 13-16
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dead Zone, Chapters 13-16.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:49)
Johnny and Sarah make love (01:07)
The Castle Rock Strangler (08:41)
The horror of Johnny’s power (16:22)
Connections (20:04)
Dark Tower Thinnies (24:24)
Thank you, Patrons! (26:11)
Fun Stuff (26:36)
Other Worlds than These (29:41)
Outro (32:34)
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Ep. 145 The Dead Zone, chapters 6-12
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dead Zone, chapters 6-12.
Introduction (00:13)
Man out of time (01:36)
Curse or Duty of Responsibility? (10:17)
Dark Tower Thinnies (19:37)
Yuck-King it Up (22:57)
Fun Stuff (26:13)
Other Worlds than These (31:59)
Jay: Two Tarantino monologues: True Romance (1993); Pulp Fiction (1994)
Sean: Two over-the-top villains named Max: Max Zorin in A View to a Kill (1985); Max Shreck in Batman Returns (1992)
Outro (36:25)
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Ep. 144 The Dead Zone, chapters 1-5
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dead Zone, the Prologue and chapters 1-5.
Introduction (00:13)
Publication history (02:07)
Structure and timing of book (06:34)
King’s treatment of women, especially mothers (16:35)
Fate and (wheel of) Fortune (22:19)
Dark Tower Thinnies (25:57)
Yuck-King It Up (29:47)
Fun Stuff (32:53)
Other Worlds Than These (40:03)
Jay: Brainstorm (1983)
Sean: The Deer Hunter (1978)
Outro (45:50)
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Bonus Episode 40 – Uncle Otto’s Truck (Patreon Clip)
A new bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our discussion of the short story “Uncle Otto’s Truck.”
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Bonus Episode 39 – Lunch at the Gotham Cafe (Patreon Clip)
A new bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our discussion of the short story “Lunch at the Gotham Cafe.”
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Hiatus Announcement
Greetings, constant listeners! We are giving you a heads up that we will be taking a short hiatus. The show will return, so stay subscribed to the feed and all of our social media for updates.
While we’re on hiatus, we’ll be planning which books, movies, tv, and other related materials to cover next. So send us your suggestions! You can email us at twoguysdarktower@gmail.com and our Twitter handle is @2guysdarktower.
We will continue to be posting bonus episodes for our patrons, so if you want
Bonus Episode 38 – Doctor Sleep (2019 movie) (Patreon Clip)
A new bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our discussion of the 2019 movie, Doctor Sleep.
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Ep. 143 Doctor Sleep, Part 4, “Roof O’ the World” and “Until You Sleep”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Doctor Sleep, Part 4 “Roof O’ the World” and “Until You Sleep.”
Introduction (00:00)
Life is a wheel (01:35)
Recovery and redemption (07:49)
Dark Tower Thinnies (15:21)
Yuck-King It Up (18:11)
Reviews and final thoughts (21:01)
Fun Stuff (26:34)
Other Worlds Than These (28:34)
Jay For All Mankind (Apple TV)
Sean The Northman (dir. Robert Eggers, 2022)
Outro (32:57)
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Bonus Episode 37 – “The Road Virus Heads North” (Patreon Clip)
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Ep. 142 Doctor Sleep, Part 3, “Matters of Life and Death”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Doctor Sleep, Part 3, “Matters of Life and Death.”
Introduction (00:00)
Uncle Dan (01:28)
Don’t underestimate the rubes (07:59)
Death is a miracle (15:34)
Connections to The Shining (20:05)
Dark Tower Thinnies (24:55)
Yuck-King It Up (25:39)
Fun Stuff (30:12)
Revenge of the Nerds 2, Hotel Coral Essex
Other Worlds Than These (36:05)
Jay: The Resort
Sean: Escape the Dark Castle
Outro (40:56)
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Ep. 141 Doctor Sleep, Part 2, “Empty Devils”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Doctor Sleep, Part 2, “Empty Devils.”
Introduction (00:12)
A real page turner (01:15)
Bad news for Dan (05:25)
Connections and continuations from The Shining (12:55)
Dark Tower Thinnies (18:26)
Yuck-King it Up (23:02)
Patrons and iTunes reviews (24:15)
Fun Stuff (26:34)
Other Worlds than These (32:14)
Outro (35:55)
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Bonus Episode 36 – “All That You Love Will Be Carried Away” (Patreon Clip)
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Bonus Episode 35 – “Before The Play” (Patreon Clip)
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Ep. 140 Doctor Sleep, Part 1, “Abra”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Doctor Sleep, Part 1, “Abra.”
Introduction (00:00)
Eternal life vs. a good life (04:02)
A dream within a dream (11:40)
The Shining connections (19:06)
Dark Tower Thinnies (26:31)
Yuck-King It Up (31:18)
Fun Stuff (32:46)
Wet Hot American Summer, “I’m just sick and tired of being sick and tired.”
Other Worlds Than These (39:03)
Jay: Starstruck (HBO Max)
Sean: Cape Fear (1962)
Outro (43:30)
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Ep. 139 Doctor Sleep, “Prefatory Matters”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Doctor Sleep, “Prefatory Matters.”
Introduction (00:13)
Publication History (01:26)
Connections and continuations from The Shining (04:25)
Overcoming trauma (09:39)
Dark Tower Thinnies (16:44)
Yuck-King it Up (17:38)
Thank you, Patrons! (19:32)
Fun Stuff (20:18)
Other Worlds than These (23:05)
Outro (25:52)
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Ep. 138 – “The Shining” (1980) Movie
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the 1980 adaptation The Shining.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:50)
Adaptation (02:09)
Mirrors (12:53)
Crazy theories (19:19) ←!!
Dark Tower Thinnies (28:26)
Yuck-King it Up (29:26)
Thank you, Patrons! (31:24)
Fun Stuff (32:04)
Critical reception and box office success (36:29)
Other Worlds than These (42:58)
Outro (45:39)
Starring: Jack Nicholson, Shelley Duvall, Scatman Crothers, Danny Lloyd, Joe Turkel, Tony Burton
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Ep. 137 The Shining, Part 5, “Matters of Life and Death”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Shining, Part 5, Matters of Life and Death.
Introduction (00:00)
Surprisingly happy ending (01:23)
Why Jack? (12:00)
Death makes life worth living (19:29)
Dark Tower Thinnies (25:03)
Yuck-King It Up (28:08)
Fun Stuff (30:32)
Final thoughts (38:46)
Other Worlds Than These (45:23)
Sean: Better Call Saul
Jay: Strange New Worlds
Outro (47:56)
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Ep. 136 The Shining, Part 4, “Snowbound”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Shining, Part Four: Snowbound.
Introduction (00:13)
Sins of the father (01:52)
Jack’s gaslighting (12:37)
Shit just got real (16:50)
Dark Tower Thinnies (21:36)
Yuck-King It Up (23:38)
Thank you, Patrons! (27:10)
Fun Stuff (27:54)
Other Worlds Than These (34:53)
Jay: “The Batman,” starring Robert Pattinson, Zoë Kravitz, Paul Dano, Jeffrey Wright, John Turturro, Andy Serkis, and Colin Farrell
Sean: Saga, the comic by Brian K. Va
Bonus Episode 34 – “L.T.’s Theory of Pets” (Patreon Clip)
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Bonus Episode 33 – “1408” (Patreon Clip)
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Ep. 135 The Shining, Part 3, Chapters 19-25
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Shining, chapters Part 3, Chapters 19-25.
Introduction (00:00)
Descriptive chapter names (02:12)
Jack’s self-sabotage (04:35)
Danny is a lot like his father (16:33)
Amping up the gothic (22:13)
Dark Tower Thinnies (24:49)
Yuck-King It Up (26:01)
Fun Stuff (28:53)
Other Worlds Than These (39:14)
Jay: Julia (HBO Max)
Sean: Severance (Apple TV)
Outro (41:57)
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Ep. 134 The Shining, Part 3, Chapters 14-18
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Shining, Part 3, Chapters 14-18.
Introduction (00:00)
Great writing, not so good exposition (1:30)
Is Jack a madman? (12:05)
Dark Tower Thinnies (23:52)
Yuck-King It Up (27:41)
Fun Stuff (30:06)
Other Worlds Than These (36:05)
Sean: The Nineties by Chuck Klosterman
Jay: Bruno, Chief of Police by Martin Walker
Outro (40:54)
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Ep. 133 The Shining, Part 2, “Closing Day”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Shining, Part 2, “Closing Day.” Introduction (00:13) The Shining (01:34) The players (06:14) Gothic table setting (14:10) Dark Tower Thinnies (20:01) Yuck-King It Up (21:05) Fun Stuff (22:53) Other Worlds Than These (30:37) Outro (33:40) Leave us an Apple Podcasts review! … Continue reading Ep. 133 The Shining, Part 2, “Closing Day” →
Ep. 132 The Shining, Part 1, “Prefatory Matters”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Shining, Part 1, “Prefatory Matters.”
Introduction (00:00)
Book Introduction (1:38)
Our coverage (7:09)
Prefatory Matters (9:55)
Autobiographical? (21:22)
Influences (29:00)
Dark Tower Thinnies (30:26)
Yuck-King It Up (33:58)
Fun Stuff (35:53)
Other Worlds Than These (43:13)
Sean: Winning Time on HBOMax
Jay: Landscapers on HBOMax
Outro (48:36)
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Ep. 131 Christine, Chapters 48-51 & Wrap-up
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Christine, chapters 48-51 and the Epilogue.
Introduction (00:13)
This story ends in tragedy (01:47)
The LeBay resolution ? (09:06)
Dark Tower Thinnies (19:00) ← what!?
Yuck-King it Up (21:15)
Fun Stuff (23:05)
Reviews and wrap-up (28:22)
Final thoughts (31:37)
Other Worlds than These (33:20)
Outro (35:37)
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Bonus Episode 32 – “Christine” Movie (Patreon Clip)
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Bonus Episode 31 – “The Green Mile” Movie (Patreon Clip)
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John Coffey pointing at Cassiopeia
Starring: Tom Hanks, David Morse, Bonnie Hunt, Michael Clarke Duncan, James Cromwell, Michael Jeter, Graham Greene, Doug Hutchison, Sam Rockwell, Barry Pepp
Ep. 130 Christine, Chapters 43-47
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Christine, chapters 43-47.
Introduction (00:00)
Another narrative switch (01:34)
Dennis is a cypher (06:38)
Making connections (11:37)
Dark Tower Thinnies (19:19) WHA!? Look at the time!
Yuck-King It Up (24:10)
Fun Stuff (27:21)
Sia “Cheap Thrills”
Other Worlds Than These (34:46)
Jay: Euphoria on HBO Max
Sean: Summer of Soul on Hulu
Outro (40:37)
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Ep. 129 Christine, Chapters 35-42
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Christine, chapters 35-42.
Introduction (00:13)
The Darnell character is cool (01:21)
Character motivations (08:18)
Dark Tower Thinnies (20:20)
Yuck-King It Up (23:12)
Thank you, Patrons! (24:54)
Fun Stuff (25:30)
Other Worlds Than These (30:44)
Outro (35:01)
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Ep. 128 Christine, Chapters 20-34
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Christine, chapters 20-34.
Introduction (00:00)
Change in narrative structure (01:42)
Christine is a hell of a drug (08:18)
Is it the car, LeBay, or both (16:25)
Dark Tower Thinnies (22:18)
Yuck-King it Up (22:40)
Fun Stuff (26:04)
Other Worlds Than These (36:04)
This Is How You Make a Movie
Taskmaster on YouTube
Outro (41:46)
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Ep. 127 Christine, Chapters 12-19
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Christine, chapters 12-19.
Introduction (00:13)
Times (02:44)
High school is messed up (10:34)
Dark Tower Thinnies (20:25)
Yuck-King it Up (24:57)
Fun Stuff (28:13)
Other Worlds Than These (33:48)
Outro (38:50)
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Bonus Episode 30 – “Desperation” TV Movie (Patreon Clip)
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Ep. 126 Christine, Prologue & Chapters 1-11
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Christine, the Prologue and chapters 1-11.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication history (02:24)
Worst to Best: Stephen King Cover Art
The creeping knowledge of death (09:10)
Christine and Arnie (19:28)
This is a rock and roll story (26:02)
Christine Playlist
Dark Tower Thinnies (34:13)
Yuck-King it Up (40:15)
Fun Stuff (43:30)
Other Worlds Than These (48:50)
Outro (53:23)
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Ep. 125 Desperation, Part 5
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Desperation, Part 5: Highway 50: Excused Early.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:45)
A bible epic ending (01:14)
God is love (07:51)
Thank you, Patrons! (16:21)
Fun Stuff (17:12)
Final thoughts on Desperation (23:46)
Other Worlds Than These (30:07)
Outro (34:08)
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Ep. 124 Desperation, Part 4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Desperation, Part 4 The China Pit: God Is Cruel.
Introduction (00:00)
This book holds up! (01:46)
God is cruel (07:04)
More connections (16:32)
Dark Tower Thinnies (19:23)
Yuck-King It Up (26:24)
Fun Stuff (30:21)
Other Worlds Than These (35:43)
Outro (39:23)
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Ep. 123 Desperation, Part 3
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Desperation, Part III – The American West: Legendary Shadows.
Introduction (00:12)
Recap (00:45)
King’s title conventions (01:36)
The spiritual state of unbelief (12:51)
The Connection Zone (25:09)
Dark Tower Thinnies (32:02)
Yuck-King It Up (34:16)
Thank you, Patrons! (36:20)
Fun Stuff (36:45)
Other Worlds Than These (42:38)
Outro (48:18)
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Bonus Episode 28 – “Survivor Type” (Patreon Clip)
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Ep. 122 Desperation, Part 2
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Desperation, Part 2: Desperation: In These Silences Something May Rise
Introduction (00:14)
Recap (00:46)
The twist (02:00)
David’s faith (08:34)
Three-layer [meta-fiction] cheese dip (15:21)
Dark Tower Thinnies (17:52)
Yuck-King it Up (20:45)
Thank you, Patrons! (22:38)
Fun Stuff (24:23)
Other Worlds Than These (28:47)
Outro (31:57)
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Ep. 121 Desperation, Part 1
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Desperation, Part 1, In the House of the Wolf, The House of the Scorpion.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication history (1:46)
Initial thoughts (4:19)
Character criss-cross (9:42)
Other connections (19:49)
Dark Tower Thinnies (25:20)
Yuck-King It Up (27:55)
Fun Stuff (30:23)
Other Worlds Than These (36:53)
Outro (41:01)
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REPOST: Bonus Episode 4: Hearts in Atlantis Movie Review
Originally posted July 31, 2019.
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the movie adaptation of Hearts in Atlantis, starring Anthony Hopkins, Anton Yelchin, and Hope Davis.
Introduction (00:14)
IMDB Summary (00:41)
Movie Details and Discussion (01:06)
Dark Tower Thinnies (35:24)
Fun Stuff (41:18)
Movie Reviews (45:28)
Listener Feedback (52:06)
Outro (56:12)
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Bonus Episode 27 – “The Ballad of the Flexible Bullet” (Patreon Clip)
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REPOST: Bonus Episode 3: The Dark Tower Movie Review
Originally posted August 23, 2017.
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we discuss the major motion picture, The Dark Tower, starring Idris Elba and Matthew McConaughey.
Introduction (0:00)
Initial Thoughts (0:46)
Sean identifies a major failing (4:58)
Jay is upset about the opening line from the book (6:15)
No emotional connections in the movie (9:25)
Movie Jake doesn’t work (10:01)
Matthew McConaughey (alright, alright, alright) (11:59)
Some good stuff (14:00)
Who is this movie
REPOST: Bonus Episode 2: Trailer for The Dark Tower Movie
Originally posted May 11, 2017.
In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we discuss the first full trailer for The Dark Tower movie.
Watch the trailer here: https://youtu.be/GjwfqXTebIY
Introduction (0:00)
Sean’s initial thoughts (01:45)
Not just from Book I (02:16)
Movie looks too conventional (04:52)
What Sean liked (07:00)
Is McConaughey right for the role? (08:02)
References to other King works (10:54)
The bootleg trailer (11:56)
Outro (15:12)
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REPOST: Bonus Episode 1: Charlie the Choo-Choo
Originally posted September 6, 2017.
In this bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we discuss the Beryl Evans book, Charlie the Choo-Choo.
Introduction (0:00)
Book summary (00:42)
The gig is up (03:20)
Cool marketing EW article (04:37)
Outro (05:38)
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Hiatus Announcement
Hello constant listeners. We’re going to take a short break. But, we want to give you something to listen to while we rest up.
In the coming weeks, enjoy a few bonus episodes that were previously only available to Patrons. These are from a couple of years ago. For fresh bonus episodes, become a Patron at patreon.com/twoguysdarktower.
There you will get bonus content, including monthly bonus episodes.
See you on the other side of the thinny.
Bonus Episodes 24 & 25 – “The Raft” & “Word Processor of the Gods” (Patreon Clip)
New bonus episodes of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came are live for all of our Patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our discussions of the short stories “The Raft” and “Word Processor of the Gods” from the Stephen King collection, Skeleton Crew. To get the whole episode and support our show, … Continue reading Bonus Episodes 24 & 25 – “The Raft” & “Word Processor of the Gods” (Patreon Clip) →
Ep. 120 The Regulators, Chapters 12 & 13
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Regulators, chapters 12 and 13.
Introduction (00:00)
Did Bachman stick the landing? (01:27)
Bachman as Alan Smithee (07:03)
Dark Tower Thinnies (13:12)
Yuck-King It Up (16:45)
Fun Stuff (19:35)
Our final thoughts on Regulators (22:51)
Other worlds than these (26:29)
Outro (30:10)
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Ep. 119 The Regulators, Chapters 10 & 11
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Regulators, chapters 10 and 11.
Introduction (00:13)
The B plot is now the A plot (01:47)
Wipe this town off the map (08:07)
People die hard (Bachman nihilism) (10:42)
Dark Tower Thinnies (15:43)
Yuck-King it Up (17:41)
Listener feedback (18:27)
Fun Stuff (20:20)
Other Worlds Than These (23:53)
Outro (27:14)
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Bonus Episode 23 – “Here There Be Tygers” (Patreon Clip)
A new bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our discussion of the short story “Here There Be Tygers” from the Stephen King collection, Skeleton Crew. To get the whole episode and support our show, become a patron … Continue reading Bonus Episode 23 – “Here There Be Tygers” (Patreon Clip) →
Ep. 118 The Regulators, Chapters 8 & 9
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Regulators, chapters 8 and 9.
Introduction (00:00)
Johnny doubles back (02:03)
Genre cocktail (09:58)
Tak has fun (17:40)
Dark Tower Thinnies (23:14)
Fun Stuff (26:15)
Sean obviously meant to say Back to the Future III when discussing ZZ Top.
Other worlds than these… (30:46)
Sean: Black Sonata
Jay: Spectacular Vernacular podcast/John Linnell Roman Songs
Outro (34:10)
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Ep. 117 The Regulators, Chapters 5-7
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Regulators, chapters 5-7.
Introduction (00:13)
Inelegant, man (01:14)
No problem, man (05:51)
Tak is building; Tak is making (10:44)
Dark Tower Thinnies (13:32)
The final Yuck-King-it-up? (15:39)
Thank you, Patrons! (16:36)
Fun Stuff (18:39)
Outro (27:38)
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Ep. 116 The Regulators, Chapters 1-4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Regulators, chapters 1-4.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication history (02:30)
Book structure (07:33)
Flyover country (14:53)
What’s going on (18:39)
Dark Tower Thinnies (32:01)
Fun Stuff (39:11)
Outro (45:10)
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Ep. 115 Roadwork, Part 3
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Roadwork, Part 3.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:41)
Dawes is locked in (02:06)
The power of the press (06:57)
The nihilistic vision of Richard Bachman (13:21)
Dark Tower Thinnies (17:58)
Yuck-King It Up (20:36)
Fun Stuff (21:28)
Bachman Books final thoughts (27:10)
Outro (30:02)
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Ep. 114 Roadwork, Part 2
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Bachman Book, Roadwork, Part 2.
Introduction (00:00)
“It’s roadwork. So what?” (03:28)
Dark Tower Thinnies (12:12)
Yuck-King It Up (21:54)
Fun Stuff (24:35)
Outro (29:52)
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Bonus Episode 22 – “The Running Man” (Patreon Clip)
Our 22nd bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our discussion of the 1987 movie “The Running Man” based on the 1982 Richard Bachman novel. To get the whole episode and support our show, become a patron at … Continue reading Bonus Episode 22 – “The Running Man” (Patreon Clip) →
Ep. 113 Roadwork, Part 1
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the Bachman Book, Roadwork, the Prologue and Part 1.
Introduction (00:12)
Publication history (01:24)
Life sucks (07:13)
Delusion (or Denial) (16:41)
Dark Tower Thinnies (21:38)
Yuck-King It Up (24:57)
Listener feedback (27:16)
Fun Stuff (27:58)
Outro (36:33)
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Ep. 112 The Running Man, Chapters 42-0
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Running Man, chapters 42-0.
Introduction (00:00)
Richards’ People (02:22)
Killian (09:35)
Richards’s Motivations (15:21)
Dark Tower Thinnies (19:19) LOOK AT THE TIME STAMP!
Yuck-King It Up (24:13)
Fun Stuff (27:22)
Outro (33:05)
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Ep. 111 The Running Man, Chapters 70-43
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Running Man, chapters 70-43.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:44)
Ignorance and innocence (02:18)
Anything for money (06:13)
Breakdown of society (08:17)
Dark Tower Thinnies (16:17)
Yuck-King It Up (18:55)
Fun Stuff (21:22)
Outro (25:03)
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Bonus Episode 21 – “The Lawnmower Man” (Patreon Clip)
Our 21st bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our discussion of the Stephen King short story “The Lawnmower Man” found in Night Shift.
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Ep. 110 The Running Man, Chapters 100-71
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Running Man, chapters 100-71.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication History (02:26)
Game Show Bullseye (07:26)
Class Critique (12:13)
Ben Richards (16:00)
Dark Tower Thinnies (21:45)
Yuck-King It Up (25:26)
Fun Stuff (27:21)
Outro (31:23)
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Bonus Episode 20 – “The Ledge” (Patreon Clip)
Our 20th bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our discussion of the Stephen King short story “The Ledge” found in Night Shift.
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Ep. 109 Rage, Chapters 21-35
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the Bachman Book, Rage, chapters 21-35.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:45)
Using television & movies as a lens (01:31)
Scapegoat Ted (07:03)
The mysterious Joe McKennedy (13:08)
Dark Tower Thinnies (20:25)
Yuck-King It Up (23:47)
Thank you, Patrons! (26:40)
Fun Stuff (27:20)
Outro (31:55)
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Ep. 108 Rage, Chapters 1-20
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the Bachman Book Rage, chapters 1-20.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication History (01:20)
Growing Up is Scary (04:40)
King’s Writing (14:48)
Dark Tower Thinnies (20:36)
Yuck-King It Up (23:54)
Fun Stuff (27:09)
Outro (33:50)
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Bonus Episode 19 – “The Mangler” (Patreon Clip)
Our 19th (!) bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our discussion of the short story “The Mangler” found in Stephen King’s Night Shift.
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Ep. 107 The Long Walk, Chapters 9-18
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Long Walk, chapters 9-18.
Introduction (00:09)
Recap (00:41)
More about the world (01:15)
Nothing to lose (07:58)
The ending (15:37)
Dark Tower Thinnies (20:55)
Yuck-King It Up (24:06)
Fun Stuff (27:51)
Outro (36:36)
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Ep. 106 The Long Walk, Chapters 1-8
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Long Walk, chapters 1-8.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication History/Bachman (01:48)
The World of the Walk (11:05)
Does any of this matter? Should this be called The Long Talk? (18:49)
Dark Tower Thinnies (26:39)
Yuck-King It Up (29:24)
Fun Stuff (35:26)
Outro (43:10)
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Ep. 105 The Stand Episode 9 “The Circle Closes”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we discuss the CBS All Access series The Stand, episode 9, “The Circle Closes.”
Intro (00:12)
Recap (00:48)
Listener Feedback (01:25)
Artificially successful (09:09)
Frannie in the well (13:34)
Dark Tower Thinnies (26:24)
Yuck-King It Up (29:48)
Fun Stuff (31:31)
Jamey Sheridans (38:16)
Outro (41:37)
The ubiquitous baby blanket Sean mentioned.
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Ep. 104 The Stand Episode 8 “The Stand”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we discuss the CBS All Access series The Stand, episode 8, “The Stand.”
Intro (00:00)
Recap (00:48)
Listener Feedback (03:12)
What a mockery (08:10)
The Hand of God (20:04)
Dark Tower Thinnies (26:38)
Yuck-King It Up (28:01)
Fun Stuff (30:59)
Jamey Sheridans (39:20)
Outro (40:40)
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Bonus Episode 18 – “Gray Matter” (Patreon Clip)
Our 18th bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our Patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our discussion of the short story “Gray Matter” found in Stephen King’s Night Shift.
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Ep. 103 The Stand Episode 7 “The Walk”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we discuss the CBS All Access series The Stand, episode 7, “The Walk.”
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:48)
Listener Feedback (02:08)
Free will (09:23)
Relationships (17:55)
Dark Tower Thinnies (25:26)
Yuck-King It Up (27:57)
Fun Stuff (30:49)
Jamey Sheridans (35:58)
Outro (36:32)
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Ep. 102 The Stand Episode 6 “The Vigil”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we discuss the CBS All Access series The Stand, episode 6, “The Vigil.”
Introduction (00:00)
Listener Feedback (01:25)
A Low Bar (02:36)
Wasted Talent (10:43)
Dark Tower Thinnies (22:00)
Yuck-King It Up (26:27)
Thank you, Patrons! (28:37)
Fun Stuff (29:11)
Jamey Sheridans (33:57)
Outro (34:44)
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Ep. 101 The Stand Episode 5 “Fear and Loathing in New Vegas”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we discuss the CBS All Access series The Stand, episode 5, “Fear and Loathing in New Vegas.”
Introduction (00:12)
Recap (00:48)
Listener feedback (01:20)
Give us the old Vegas (08:56)
Characters have no depth (19:04)
Dark Tower Thinnies (28:10)
Yuck-King It Up (29:01)
Fun Stuff (30:27)
Jamie Sheridans (34:22)
Outro (36:53)
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Ep. 100 The Stand Episode 4 “The House of the Dead”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore episode 4 of the CBS All-Access series, The Stand, “The House of the Dead.”
Introduction (00:00)
100th Episode Recognition (00:51)
Show Recap (01:24)
Listener Feedback (02:19)
Continued Problems with the Show (06:18)
What Is Working (09:42)
Dark Tower Thinnies (23:14)
Yuck-King It Up (24:08)
Fun Stuff (25:44)
Outro (32:12)
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Ep. 99 The Stand Episode 3 “Blank Pages”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the CBS All Access series, The Stand, episode 3, “Blank Pages.”
Introduction (00:13)
Listener feedback (01:56)
Fundamental changes (07:29)
What’s working (23:04)
Dark Tower Thinnies (27:13)
Yuck-King It Up (29:08)
Thank you, Patrons! (30:15)
Fun Stuff (31:42)
Outro (41:15)
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Bonus Episode 17 – Firestarter (Patreon Clip)
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Ep. 98 The Stand Episode 2 “Pocket Savior”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore episode 2 of the CBS All-Access series, The Stand, “Pocket Savior.”
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:48)
Listener feedback (01:33)
The structure is not working (05:30)
What’s working (11:33)
The show is boring (14:06)
Dark Tower Thinnies (19:55)
Yuck-King It Up (20:33)
Thank you, Patrons! (23:03)
Fun Stuff (24:00)
Outro (33:48)
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Ep. 97 The Stand Episode 1 “The End”
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore episode 1 of the CBS All Access miniseries, The Stand titled “The End.”
Introduction (00:00)
Watching in 2020 (01:30)
Listener Feedback (02:50)
Directorial Choices (08:25)
Dark Tower Thinnies (24:08)
Yuck-King It Up (25:32)
New Patron (27:08)
Fun Stuff (28:00)
How Many Jamie Sheridans? (38:16)
Outro (39:56)
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Ep. 96 The Stand, Book 3, Chapters 74-79, the Circle Closes, and our Wrap-Up
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we finish our discussion of The Stand, covering Book 3, Chapters 74-78, and the Circle Closes, as well as our wrap-up
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:42)
It ends in a whimper (00:59)
A season of rest (07:28)
Overall big themes (13:21)
Book reception and our thoughts (20:40)
Dark Tower Thinnies (28:33)
Yuck-King It Up (31:44)
Fun Stuff (35:32)
Outro and special announcement (42:30)
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Ep. 95 The Stand, Book 3, Chapters 68-73
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 3, Chapters 68-73.
Introduction (00:00)
The Trashcan Man Returns (01:46)
Flagg (07:54)
Larry (15:49)
The Rat Man (19:58)
The Climax/The Stand (20:18)
Dark Tower Thinnies (33:07)
Yuck-King It Up (34:53)
Listener Feedback (36:57)
Fun Stuff (39:22)
Outro (44:57)
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Ep. 94 The Stand, Book 3, Chapters 61-67
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 3, Chapters 61-67.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:43)
Flagg is losing control (01:39)
Banality of evil (11:38)
Importance of love (18:37)
Dark Tower Thinnies (23:31)
Yuck-King it Up (29:28)
Listener feedback (32:27)
Fun Stuff (34:58)
Outro (43:35)
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Bonus Episode 16 – Children of the Corn (Patreon Clip)
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Bonus Episode 15 – I Am the Doorway (Patreon Clip)
The 15th bonus episode for Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came is live for all of our patrons. What follows is an excerpt of our conversation about the short story, I Am the Doorway, found in Stephen King’s Night Shift.
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Ep. 93 The Stand, Book 2, Chapters 57-60
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 2, Chapters 57-60.
Introduction (00:00)
Sanity vs. Insanity → the New Reality (02:20)
Entombment vs. Resurrection (15:57)
The Bad Moon Has Risen (24:44)
Dark Tower Thinnies (32:10)
Yuck-King It Up (36:10)
Listener Feedback (39:02)
Fun Stuff (44:05)
Outro (48:34)
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Ep. 92 The Stand, Book 2, Chapters 53-56
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 2, chapters 53-56.
Introduction (00:00)
Sean’s Thoughts/This section of the book (01:17)
Growing Up (06:54)
Spheres of Influence (14:50)
M-O-O-N, that spells doom (21:28)
Dark Tower Thinnies (26:30)
Yuck-King It Up (30:32)
Fun Stuff (35:08)
Randee of the Redwoods
Outro (43:49)
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Ep. 91 The Stand, Book 2, Chapters 50-52
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 2, Chapters 50-52.
Introduction (00:00)
A New Society (02:34)
Creation vs. Anti-Creation (15:49)
Loosening of morals, but for a good cause? (26:35)
Dark Tower Thinnies (30:44)
Yuck-King It Up (34:24)
Fun Stuff (37:48)
Outro (46:50)
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Bonus Episode 14 – Gerald’s Game (Patreon Clip)
Our 14th bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came just went live to all of our patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our synced commentary of the Netflix original movie adaptation of Stephen King’s Gerald’s Game.
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Ep. 90 The Stand, Book 2, Chapters 46-49
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 2, Chapters 46-49.
Introduction (00:10)
Recap (00:41)
Really feeling the length of the book here (01:16)
Sympathy for Mr. Trashcan (08:20)
Dark Tower Thinnies (15:53)
Yuck-King It Up (21:11)
Listener feedback (24:23)
Fun Stuff (25:23)
Outro (36:25)
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Ep. 89 The Stand, Book 2, Chapters 43-45
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 2, chapters 43-45.
Introduction (00:12)
Recap (00:44)
And so begins Book II (01:45)
Abagail’s religious perspective (09:06)
Strange bedfellows (16:56)
Dark Tower Thinnies (29:26)
Yuck-King It Up (40:49)
Listener reviews & emails (42:04)
Thank you, Patrons! (44:33)
Fun Stuff (45:07)
Outro (54:04)
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Ep. 88 The Stand, Book 1, Chapters 35-42
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 1, chapters 35-42.
Introduction (00:00)
Searching for Society/Authority (02:08)
Frannie/Harold (02:30)
Rita/Larry (06:47)
Glen/Stu (11:24)
Lloyd (16:20)
No Great Loss (21:30)
Time to Talk Supernatural (25:00)
Dark Tower Thinnies (32:04)
Yuck-king It Up (38:08)
Fun Stuff (41:58)
Outro (51:12)
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Bonus Episode 13 - 1922 (Patreon Clip)
Our 13th bonus episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came just went live to all of our patrons. What follows is a short excerpt of our synced commentary of the Netflix original movie adaptation of Stephen King’s 1922.
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The Stand, Book 1, Chapters 26-34
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 1, chapters 26-34.
Introduction (00:13)
PTSD for our main characters (02:29)
The tipping point (21:10)
More new characters! (30:33)
Dark Tower Thinnies (41:29)
Yuck-King It Up (48:21)
Fun Stuff (52:24)
Outro (57:32)
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The Stand, Book 1, Chapters 16-25
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 1, chapters 16-25.
Introduction (00:00)
Life’s Trend Lines (01:45)
Randall Flagg, the Dark Man (09:48)
Pop Culture Lenses (19:01)
Dark Tower Thinnies (26:54)
Listener Feedback (30:35)
Yuck-King it Up (31:51)
Fun Stuff (37:32)
Outro (46:35)
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The Stand, Chapters 5-15
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 1, Chapters 5-15.
Introduction (00:00)
Larry Underwood (02:07)
Nick Andros (10:13)
Parents (17:29)
Dark Tower Thinnies (22:11)
Listener Feedback (27:16)
Yuck-King It Up (28:02)
Fun Stuff (32:44)
Outro (41:50)
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Bonus Episode 12 - Wred Fright Interview (Patreon Clip)
Our twelfth bonus episode of Two Guys of the Dark Tower Came just went live to all of our Patrons. The following is a short excerpt of our discussion with Wred Fright, who noted the changes between the versions of The Stand for his blog.
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The Stand, Chapters 1-4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Stand, Book 1, chapters 1-4 and all the front material.
Introduction (00:09)
Recap (00:41)
Publication history (02:20)
Sean and Jay’s history with the book (06:22)
Pre-story materials (09:38)
New book, new characters (15:23)
Things are falling apart (27:12)
Dark Tower Thinnies (32:53)
Enriching revisions (36:47)
Yuck-King it Up (42:25)
Thank you, Patrons! (44:53)
Fun Stuff (45:14)
Outro (48:51)
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Everything's Eventual
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story, “Everything’s Eventual,” found in the collection Everything’s Eventual.
Introduction (00:00)
Story background (01:30)
Creative process (07:45)
The seduction of Dinky (14:43)
Dark Tower Thinnies (21:02)
Fun Stuff (28:28)
Stephen King’s F13 Trailer
Outro (36:40)
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The Eyes of the Dragon, Sections 94-142
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Eyes of the Dragon, Section 94-142 and our final thoughts on the book.
Introduction (00:00)
Duty versus loyalty (01:09)
Evil repeats itself (06:59)
The Napkins! (15:29)
Dark Tower Thinnies (21:40)
Fun Stuff (27:30)
Final Thoughts (32:32)
Outro (40:21)
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The Eyes of the Dragon, Sections 58-93
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Eyes of the Dragon, Sections 58-93.
Introduction (00:12)
Recap (00:45)
Peyna’s Arc (01:04)
The Nature of Friendship (09:05)
Meta-commentary (15:51)
Dark Tower Thinnies (20:18)
Thank you, Patrons! (25:10)
Fun Stuff (25:59)
Outro (36:00)
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The Eyes of the Dragon, Sections 28-57
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Eyes of the Dragon, sections 28-57.
Introduction (00:00)
Moral of the story (02:18)
Irrational rejection of a “Perfect” king (07:46)
King is making it up (17:20)
Dark Tower Thinnies (23:16)
Listener feedback (28:02)
Fun stuff (32:00)
Outro (36:43)
Excalibur: The King and the Land Are One
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The Eyes of the Dragon, Sections 1-27
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Eyes of the Dragon, sections 1-27.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:44)
Publication history (01:18)
Tone and style (05:12)
Let’s talk characters (11:16)
Courage to do what’s right (21:00)
The ignorance of those who exercise power (24:05)
Dark Tower Thinnies (26:32)
Thank you, Patrons! (36:34)
Fun Stuff (36:48)
Outro (48:19)
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One for the Road
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story “One for the Road” found in Night Shift and the Illustrated Salem’s Lot.
Introduction (00:00)
Good, creepy story (01:14)
Old men on an adventure (06:11)
Urban versus rural (09:01)
Timing (10:50)
Listener Feedback (15:46)
Dark Tower Thinnies (17:30)
Fun Stuff (18:36)
Outro (24:19)
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'Salem's Lot: Epilogue, Deleted Scenes, Afterword, Wrap-Up
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore ‘Salem’s Lot, the Epilogue, Deleted Scenes, the Afterword, and our book wrap-up.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:44)
Epilogue (01:14)
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Ep. 76 ‘Salem’s Lot: Part 14 Sections 25-50 and Chapter 15
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore ‘Salem’s Lot, Chapter 14, Sections 25-50, and Chapter 15. Introduction (00:00) PTSD for our characters (02:20) Vampires, attack! (08:56) Ben and Mark (20:28) Dark Tower Thinnies (27:19) Reviews (36:36) Fun Stuff (39:07) Outro (42:47) Leave us an iTunes review! Send your questions, … Continue reading Ep. 76 ‘Salem’s Lot: Part 14 Sections 25-50 and Chapter 15 →
'Salem's Lot: Part 3, Chapter 14, Sections 1-24
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore ‘Salem’s Lot, Part 3, Chapter 14, sections 1-24.
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Salem’s Lot is Dead (01:20) Vampire Calculator
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‘Salem’s Lot: Part 2, Chapters 11-13
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore ‘Salem’s Lot, Part 2, Chapters 11-13.
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Character Lenses (02:01)
Meta, Meet Meta (12:02)
Vampire Circle (15:10)
Dark Tower Thinnies (23:07)
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'Salem's Lot: Part 2, Chapters 8-10
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore ‘Salem’s Lot, Part 2, chapters 8-10.
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The Emperor of Ice Cream poem (02:14)
What’s happening in ‘Salem’s Lot, an evil dry cell (04:41)
Barlow monologues/City versus small town (15:30)
Goldilocks age (22:47)
Dark Tower Thinnies (27:46)
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'Salem's Lot: Part 1, Chapters 4-7
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore ‘Salem’s Lot, Part 1, Chapters 4-7.
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This book is legit scary (01:42)
Resurrection and rebirth: Christian lore vs. vampire myth (06:56)
Vampire literature exists in the Salem’s Lot world (11:16)
King Twinners (17:26)
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'Salem's Lot: Part 1, Chapters 1-3
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore ‘Salem’s Lot, Part 1, Chapters 1-3.
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Small Town Living (04:30)
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'Salem's Lot: Prologue
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we begin our discussion of ‘Salem’s Lot with the Prologue.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:43)
Publication History (01:29)
It’s Good to Tell a Story (10:09)
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The Night Flier
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “The Night Flier” found in Nightmares & Dreamscapes.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication History (02:32)
A Modern Day Vampire Story (06:07)
Richard Dees: Cynical, Sociopathic, but Professional (08:30)
Dark Tower Thinnies (16:02)
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Outro (26:40)
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Jerusalem's Lot
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “Jerusalem’s Lot” found in Night Shift.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:42)
Publication History (01:23)
Story Format (04:24)
Cthulhu Mythos and Vampires (10:27)
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Fun Stuff (22:30)
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The Gunslinger Born
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the graphic novel, The Gunslinger Born.
Introduction (00:00)
The Horn of Gilead (02:48)
Publication History (03:37)
Discussing the Adaptation (05:50)
Who’s the audience? (07:30)
The art (10:11)
The story and narration (13:25)
What was unique to the comic (17:17)
Fun Stuff (24:35)
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Ur
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore the short story Ur.
Introduction (00:13)
Overview (01:15)
Ur Novels (10:36)
Nature of the Can Toi (17:48)
Dark Tower Thinnies (24:14)
Fun Stuff (32:33)
Outro (38:51)
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Heavenly Shades of Night Are Falling
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “Heavenly Shades of Night Are Falling” in Hearts in Atlantis and wrap-up the book.
Introduction (00:00)
Leaving Behind the Past (02:20)
Magic (10:22)
Dark Tower Thinnies (13:45)
Fun Stuff (21:52)
Platters “Twilight Time” (22:14)
Hearts in Atlantis reviews and reception (30:53)
Ranking the stories (39:56)
Book themes (41:22)
Outro (49:40)
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Why We're In Vietnam
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “Why We’re in Vietnam” found in Hearts in Atlantis.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:40)
Still in Vietnam (03:23)
Hauntings (10:29)
Dark Tower Thinnies (20:35)
Fun Stuff (28:31)
Outro (32:43)
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Blind Willie
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “Blind Willie” found in Hearts in Atlantis.
Introduction (00:00)
Publication History/Changes in Versions (03:24)
Only the Penitent Man Will Pass (15:03)
Dark Tower Thinnies (24:11)
Fun Stuff (30:56)
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Hearts in Atlantis, Parts 23-44
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we discuss “Hearts in Atlantis” parts 23-44 in Hearts in Atlantis.
Introduction (00:13)
Goldilocks and the Political Activists (05:43)
Information (08:55)
We couldn’t stop laughing (17:19)
Dark Tower Thinnies (27:04)
Fun Stuff (34:04)
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Hearts in Atlantis, Parts 1-22
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “Hearts in Atlantis,” parts 1-22 found in Hearts in Atlantis.
Introduction (00:00)
Discovering Yourself (03:19)
Nested Nostalgia (15:07)
Addiction or Avoidance (20:47)
Dark Tower Thinnies (28:55)
Fun Stuff (36:13)
Outro (45:33)
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Low Men in Yellow Coats, Parts 9-11
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “Low Men in Yellow Coats” parts 9-11.
Introduction (00:00)
The Once and Future Liz (03:17)
Important confrontations: “People needed a beast to hunt.” (16:27)
Dark Tower Thinnies (25:50)
Fun Stuff (38:45)
Outro (44:31)
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Low Men in Yellow Coats, Parts 5-8
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore parts 5 to 8 of “Low Men in Yellow Coats” found in Hearts in Atlantis.
Introduction (00:00)
Lots of Plot/Ted’s Powers (2:10)
Down There (6:30)
Bobby’s Dream (19:32)
Dark Tower Thinnies (27:02)
Fun Stuff (38:02)
Recent Reviews and Feedback (44:43)
Outro (46:20)
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Low Men in Yellow Coats, Parts 1-4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore parts 1 to 4 of “Low Men in Yellow Coats” found in Hearts in Atlantis.
Introduction (00:12)
Publication Info (01:31)
Castle Rock Origin Story (06:07)
Nostalgia and Childhood (09:39)
Books, Reading, and Stories (25:25)
Dark Tower Thinnies (39:36)
Fun Stuff (50:36)
Outro (57:10)
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The Little Sisters of Eluria
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore “The Little Sisters of Eluria,” found in Stephen King’s Everything’s Eventual.
Introduction (00:48)
Publication History (03:06)
Did this need to be a Dark Tower story? (13:40)
Deus ex Canine (23:18)
Vampires! (25:52)
We dig this story (34:20)
Fun Stuff (39:24)
Outro (45:51)
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The Dark Tower, Listener Feedback
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we read and discuss listener feedback.
Introduction (00:11)
We do it for the listeners (00:38)
Dark Tower re-reads (02:09)
Are we too harsh on King? (09:31)
King’s endings (14:36)
Listener reviews (21:44)
Fun Stuff (24:23)
On our next episode… (28:14)
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The Dark Tower, Series Wrap-Up
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower as a series.
Introduction (00:00)
Heartbreak (2:15)
What’s King Up To? (17:15)
Character Arcs (25:24)
Are the characters better off for knowing Roland (30:28)
Subtitles (38:59)
Magnum Opus? (47:35)
Fun Stuff (54:24)
Outro (1:03:40)
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The Dark Tower, Epilogue, Coda, Author's Note, reactions
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VII, The Dark Tower, Epilogue, Coda, Author’s Note and reaction to the book.
Introduction (0:00:11)
Recap (0:00:49)
Dance of the Can’-Ka No Rey (0:01:49)
Epilogue/Susannah in New York (0:02:10)
Coda/Found (0:08:32)
Author’s Note (0:30:30)
Fun Stuff (0:37:00)
Book Reviews and Reception (0:44:24)
Sean and Jay Rank Book VII (0:51:32)
What’s Next? (0:56:21)
Listener Feedback (0:58:41)
Outro (1:00:41)
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The Dark Tower, Part 5, Chapters 1-3
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VII, The Dark Tower, Part 5, chapters 1-3.
Introduction (00:45)
Susannah’s Exit (02:30)
Mordred (14:20)
Crimson King (21:57)
Fun Stuff (36:35)
Outro (50:51)
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The Dark Tower, Part 4, Chapters 4-6
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book 7, The Dark Tower, Part 4, chapters 4-6.
Introduction (00:13)
What is Happening? (01:21)
The Meta Structure Tumbles (14:28)
Fun Stuff (29:06)
Outro (33:51)
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The Dark Tower, Part 4, Chapters 1-3
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VII, The Dark Tower, Part 4, chapters 1-3.
Introduction (00:00)
Susannah and Roland’s relationship (05:45)
The Three Kings (14:35)
Crimson King (22:32)
Fun Stuff (30:57)
Outro (42:40)
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The Dark Tower, Part 3, Chapters 1-4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VII, The Dark Tower, Part 3, chapters 1-4.
Introduction (0:00:13)
Each Man Owes a Death (0:02:23)
Reaction to Jake’s death (0:23:19)
Mrs. Tassenbaum (0:33:47)
The Tet Corporation (0:42:17)
Fun Stuff (0:47:09)
Show Stuff (0:57:26)
Outro (1:03:56)
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The Dark Tower, Part 2, Chapters 9-12
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VII, The Dark Tower, Part 2, chapters 9-12.
Introduction (00:00)
Eddie’s Death (02:30)
King is Afraid, Tired, and Lazy (17:45)
The Beam Says Thankya! (28:05)
Fun Stuff (31:37)
Outro (37:07)
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The Dark Tower, Part 2, Chapters 5-8
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VII, The Dark Tower, Part 2, Chapters 5 – 8.
Introduction (00:13)
Recap (00:45)
Outsiders (03:07)
A Swiftly-Tilting Ka Planet (10:58)
Acquiescence to Ka (18:30)
Our Heads Just Sploded (26:35)
Fun Stuff (35:03)
Outro (46:18)
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The Dark Tower, Part 2, Chapters 1-4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VII, The Dark Tower, Part 2, chapters 1-4.
Introduction (00:00)
King as Character (1:50)
Randall Flagg (9:35)
Dual Nature of Mordred (18:40)
Fun Stuff (29:39)
Outro (37:54)
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The Dark Tower, Part 1, Chapters 4-7
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Book VII of the Dark Tower, The Dark Tower, Part 1, Chapters 4-7
Introduction (00:09)
Recap (00:42)
So Many Faddahs (02:15)
The Ka-tet is No Longer Broken (12:59)
Tourism via Magic Doors (20:46)
Fun Stuff (26:56)
Outro (36:23)
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The Dark Tower, Part 1, Chapters 1-3
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VII, The Dark Tower, Part 1, chapters 1-3.
Introduction (00:00)
Section Summary (00:46)
Publication History (2:40)
Stephen King Interview (3:01)
The next SK novels (5:08)
Michael Whelan, illustrator (5:40)
Stakes are set high (7:12)
Goodbye Callahan (7:30)
But a problem (11:52)
Realities of Roland (17:18)
Consequences of King (26:23)
Fun Stuff (31:50)
Outro (41:52)
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Song of Susannah, Coda and Wrap-up
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VI, Song of Susannah, Coda and Wrap-Up.
Introduction (0:00:10)
Coda and Writer’s Notebook (0:01:12)
Big Themes of the Book (0:10:24)
Fun Stuff (0:28:37)
Book Reviews and Reception (0:43:42)
Sean and Jay Rank Book VI (0:55:08)
Onward to the Dark Tower (1:01:13)
Outro (1:01:53)
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Song of Susannah, Stanzas 11-13
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VI, Song of Susannah, Stanzas 11-13.
Introduction (00:00)
Stephen King is a character! (01:57)
Neil Gaiman/Stephen King Interview (11:40)
How much of King is true or real (14:05)
Callahan and Jake finally show up (16:51)
The Song of Susannah (25:29)
Is this really the end? (31:26)
Fun Stuff (35:14)
Outro (46:55)
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Song of Susannah, Stanzas 8-10
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VI, Song of Susannah, Stanzas 8-10.
Introduction (00:12)
Recap (00:43)
So. Much. Exposition. (02:14)
Stephen King is real!! (09:51)
We have problems (21:52)
Fun Stuff (27:10)
Outro (38:45)
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Song of Susannah, Stanzas 5-7
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VI, Song of Susannah, Stanzas 5-7.
Introduction (00:00)
Who, or what, is Mia? (01:38)
The Turtle, Maturin (09:54)
Literature as a storytelling device (15:43)
Gunfight in Maine (23:24)
Fun Stuff (31:38)
Outro (36:46)
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Song of Susannah, Stanzas 1 - 4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book VI, Song of Susannah, Stanzas 1-4.
Introduction (00:11)
Book VI Introduction (01:47)
Structure of the book (05:56)
Beamquake (13:35)
Trudy Damascus (23:26)
Susannah / Mia (31:12)
Fun Stuff (42:53)
Outro (48:39)
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Wolves of the Calla, Wrap up
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we finalize our discussion of the Dark Tower, Book V, Wolves of the Calla.
Introduction (00:00)
Is this Stephen King fanfic? (01:39)
Big Themes (07:58)
Side quest purpose (08:07)
Subtitle: Resistance (11:55)
Duty (18:16)
Reploids (21:55)
Contemporary reviews (23:17)
Our rankings (29:30)
Readers’ thoughts (33:32)
Next books (34:36)
Outro (36:13)
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Wolves of the Calla, Part 3, Chapters 5-7 & Epilogue
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book V, Wolves of the Calla, Part 3, Chapter 5-7 and Epilogue.
Introduction (00:11)
Metafiction (01:37)
Mythology (11:13)
Five minutes of action (23:34)
Sticking the ending (30:14)
Fun Stuff (38:16)
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Wolves of the Calla, Part 3, Chapters 1-4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book V, Wolves of the Calla, Part 3, The Wolves, chapters 1-4.
Introduction (00:00)
King’s artificial tension (1:57)
Susannah disappeared again (8:45)
Eddie’s all growed up (15:15)
Fun stuff (35:05)
Listener feedback (43:20)
Outro (50:15)
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Wolves of the Calla, Part 2, Chapters 5-9
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book V, Wolves of the Calla, Part 2, chapters 5-9.
Introduction (00:12)
So many tales and book references (01:27)
What is Callahan’s role? (11:22)
The Ka-Tet is broken…or is it? (20:26)
Fun Stuff (27:28)
Outro (43:31)
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Wolves of the Calla, Part 2, Chapters 1-4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book V, Wolves of the Calla, Part 2 Telling Tales, chapters 1-4.
Introduction (00:00)
Recap (00:47)
Roland knows so much (2:10)
Susannah’s pregnancy (12:06)
Dry twists (17:41)
Father Callahan’s story (23:43)
Fun Stuff (36:30)
Outro (45:07)
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Wolves of the Calla, Part 1, Chapters 4-7
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book V, Wolves of the Calla, Part 1, chapters 4 – 7.
Introduction (00:00)
We argue the pronunciation of “Calla” (01:25)
Metafiction setup (05:37)
Infodump City (14:40)
Fun Stuff (34:23)
iTunes reviews and social media shout-outs (43:51)
Outro (46:38)
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Ep. 33 The Dark Tower V: Wolves of the Calla — Prologue and Part 1, Chapters 1-3
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book V, The Wolves of the Calla, the Prologue and Part 1, chapters 1-3. Introduction (00:00) Recap (00:48) Publication History (2:13) Illustrator Bernie Wrightson (7:48) Final Argument: New material? (9:56) Prologue: Roont (12:21) The Face on the Water (22:21) … Continue reading Ep. 33 The Dark Tower V: Wolves of the Calla — Prologue and Part 1, Chapters 1-3 →
The Wind Through the Keyhole, The Skin-Man (Part 2) and Storm's Over
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we finish our discussion of The Dark Tower, Book 4.5, The Wind Through the Keyhole, The Skin-Man (Part 2) and Storm’s Over.
Introduction (00:17)
Wrapping up the Wind Through the Keyhole section (01:34)
Resolving the murder mystery (04:11)
Gabrielle and her letter (11:03)
Why are these stories being told? (25:59)
Fun Stuff (43:39)
Book wrap-up (48:56)
Outro (55:50)
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The Wind Through the Keyhole, The Wind Through the Keyhole
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book 4.5 The Wind through the Keyhole, The Wind through the Keyhole section.
Introduction (00:00)
Yet another genre: the fairy tale (01:39)
Fairy tale / fiction vs. history / nonfiction (04:59)
Why this story now? (17:00)
Fun stuff (27:22)
Listener reviews (34:54)
Outro (39:55)
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The Wind Through the Keyhole, The Skin-Man (Part 1)
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book 4.5, The Wind Through the Keyhole, The Skin-Man, part 1.
Introduction (0:00)
Recap (0:47)
Storytelling/Russian nesting doll aspect (2:15)
Roland still treated like a child (14:58)
New genre: murder mystery (23:10)
The wind motif (27:15)
Fun stuff (30:35)
Outro (42:18)
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The Wind Through the Keyhole, Starkblast
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book 4.5, The Wind Through the Keyhole, Starkblast.
Introduction (0:00)
Section recap (0:46)
Publication history (2:04)
Foreword (11:00)
Roland’s curse (14:15)
The ka-tet (19:06)
Story-within-a-story (26:45)
Fun stuff (30:30)
Outro (36:53)
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Wizard and Glass, Wrap-Up
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we finish The Dark Tower, Book IV, Wizard and Glass.
Introduction (00:12)
Overall book recap (00:42)
The Afterword (02:04)
Comparison of how King ends the stories in the book: Blaine vs. Mejis vs. Oz (12:17)
Our final thoughts (18:46)
Why is the book titled “Wizard and Glass?” (20:54)
Critical reception (28:53)
Listener feedback (39:55)
Book and show logistics (49:11)
Outro (50:02)
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Wizard and Glass, All God’s Chillun Got Shoes, Chapters 1-4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we finish The Dark Tower, Book IV, Wizard and Glass, with the All God’s Chillun Got Shoes section.
Introduction (0:00)
Matricide–Is it that bad? (2:06)
Gabrielle’s motivation (9:36)
Dave McKean, Neal Gaiman, and Sandman connection (16:40)
Why does Roland share this story (17:59)
The Green Palace (29:37)
Sean goes on about the end, the real end, the end-end (35:05)
Roland gets emotional (35:25)
Fun stuff (40:50)
Outro (52:04)
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Wizard and Glass, Come, Reap Chapters 9 & 10
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book IV, Wizard and Glass, Come, Reap, chapters 9 & 10.
Introduction (00:00)
Recap (00:48)
The Wizard’s Glass – the Pink One (02:20)
Roland’s vision in the wizard’s glass (17:57)
The Once and Future Roland (32:06)
Did King end the story successfully? (41:07)
Fun Stuff (48:58)
Outro (56:15)
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Wizard and Glass, Come, Reap Chapters 5-8
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book IV, Wizard and Glass, Interlude and Come, Reap chapters 5-8.
Introduction (0:00)
King’s narrative style…the Good (3:30)
…the Bad (7:30)
…and the Ugly (13:30)
Cruelty of Mejis (17:50)
Susan’s loss of innocence (27:40)
Fun Stuff (39:00)
Outro (45:02)
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Wizard and Glass, Interlude and Come, Reap Chapters 1-4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book IV, Wizard and Glass, Interlude and Come, Reap chapters 1-4.
Introduction (0:00)
Interlude: a fascinating reflection on the story (03:39)
Tension to story, but… (09:59)
Religion (17:48)
Roland and Cuthbert come to a head (30:06)
Fun Stuff (37:33)
Outro (48:00)
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Wizard and Glass, Susan, Chapters 6-10
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book IV, Wizard and Glass, Susan, chapters 6-10.
Introduction (0:00)
Smart people doing smart things (1:45)
Love makes you do stupid things (like forget your duty) (8:25)
Why is Roland telling this story (20:10)
Roland is a dangerous man (23:30)
Worldbuilding (25:45)
Magic (26:00)
Thinny (28:00)
Time getting softer (31:45)
Fun Stuff (35:00)
Reviews/Shout-outs (43:10)
Outro (46:00)
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Wizard and Glass, Susan, Chapters 1-5
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book IV, Wizard and Glass, Part 2, Susan, chapter 1-5.
Introduction (00:00)
Careless Love (05:50)
Language and customs (17:59)
Politic, politics, politics! (23:12)
Fun Stuff (40:06)
Outro (55:42)
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Wizard and Glass, Riddles, Chapters 4 & 5
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book IV, Wizard and Glass, Riddles chapters 4 & 5.
Introduction (0:00)
Book Summary (0:45)
Where’s the meat? (1:50)
Does this section enhance the Stand or the Dark Tower more? (3:55)
A new wheelchair! (10:10)
Jay’s epic rant (13:15)
Story telling (15:28)
(This Song’s Just) Six Words Long (18:58)
Fun Stuff (27:20)
Outro (36:45)
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Wizard and Glass, Argument, Prologue, & Part One, Riddles, Chapters 1-3
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book IV, Wizard and Glass, the Argument; Prologue; and Part One, Riddles, Chapters 1 – 3.
Introduction (00:00)
Context of Book IV (01:31)
Why so much recap? (11:40)
If Blaine were an ally, oh the possibilities (17:56)
Riddle contest–end of the line for Blaine (22:32)
Gunslinger’s nature (36:10)
Fun Stuff (38:18)
Outro (42:00)
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The Waste Lands, Chapter 6 Riddle and Waste Lands
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we finish Book III of the Dark Tower, The Waste Lands, covering chapter VI, Riddle and Waste Lands.
Introduction (00:00)
Recap (00:59)
Cop-out or not? (07:19)
Waste Lands as a theme (14:17)
Critical takes (35:20)
Fun Stuff (40:46)
Outro (52:15)
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The Waste Lands, Chapter 5 Bridge and City
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book III, The Waste Lands, chapter 5, Bridge and City.
Introduction (00:00)
Connections to The Stand (01:47)
Character development (13:52)
Riddles (24:57)
Spoiler for “Game of Thrones” (29:39 – 30:31)
The destruction that follows Roland (34:40)
Fun Stuff (39:00)
Velcro Fly by Z. Z. Top (43:09) https://youtu.be/F89McWFENTs
Outro (46:09)
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The Waste Lands, Chapter 4 Town and Ka-Tet
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book III of the Dark Tower, The Waste Lands, Chapter 4, Town & Ka-Tet.
Introduction (00:00)
Roland’s connection to the old ways (03:04)
The palaver of the ka-tet (09:17)
Once there was a world we knew, but that world has moved on (23:04)
Stephen King tropes (33:50)
Fun stuff (39:03)
Outro (45:10)
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Ep. 16: The Dark Tower III: The Waste Lands — Chapter 3 Door and Demon
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Book III of the Dark Tower, The Waste Lands, Chapter 3, Door and Demon. Introduction (0:00) The death of Eddie’s childhood (03:40) Susanna is underdeveloped as a character (24:44) Does Roland fully grasp the scope of his quest? (33:44) Fun stuff (41:01) … Continue reading Ep. 16: The Dark Tower III: The Waste Lands — Chapter 3 Door and Demon →
The Waste Lands, Chapter 2 Key and Rose
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book III, The Waste Lands, Chapter 2, Key and Rose.
Introduction (00:00)
Plot recap (00:42)
King addressing his critics (02:06)
Expansion of Jake as a character (13:30)
They Might Be Giants song, “New York City” (22:39)
Jake is putting his faith in Ka (28:02)
Fun stuff (35:32)
Outro (43:32)
“New York City.” They Might Be Giants. Factory Showroom. Elektra, 1996.
(The TMBG version is a cover from the 1995 Cub song of
The Waste Lands, Chapter 1 Bear and Bone
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book III, The Waste Lands, Chapter 1, “Bear and Bone.”
Introduction (0:00)
Plot summary (00:45)
Publication context (02:00)
Aping T.S. Elliot (07:40)
Laying down some mythology (10:33)
Eddie’s arc (25:31)
Susannah’s arc (26:31)
Roland’s arc (29:13)
Fun stuff (32:25)
Art from Sonya – Shardik (43:25)
Outro (44:22)
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The Drawing of the Three, Final Shuffle
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we conclude The Dark Tower, Book 2, The Drawing of the Three, Final Shuffle.
Introduction (0:00)
Plot recap (00:44)
Who were the titular three? (01:29)
Snake symbolism (06:53)
The Quest (08:56)
Who is Death? (16:41)
Fantasy genre and tropes (21:01)
Reversed portal (thanks, Emily Cait!) (22:29)
Fun stuff (25:14)
Chekhov’s jawbone (25:33)
Artwork – two Phil Hale commissions (27:19)
Some TV tropes (31:23)
Critical reviews of The Drawing of the Th
The Drawing of the Three, The Pusher
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book 2, The Drawing of the Three, The Pusher.
Introduction (00:00)
Plot recap (00:44)
A fish out of water (02:04)
Matters of fate (05:41)
Delusions of grandeur (06:09)
Roland as hero (11:59)
Romper Room “Do Bee” song (18:27)
What is Roland’s intent with the third door? (19:54)
Roland’s plan (28:43)
Fun stuff (36:10)
Outro (47:23)
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The Drawing of the Three, Reshuffle
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Book II of the Dark Tower, The Drawing of the Three, “Reshuffle.”
Introduction (0:00)
Odetta Loves Eddie (01:58)
King paints a pretty romantic picture (06:35)
Twilight Time (08:35)
Is Odetta aware of Detta? (11:41)
Does Detta know about Odetta? (14:16)
Roland’s increasing affection for Eddie (17:44)
Is NYC significant? (27:22)
Reshuffle structure (28:05)
King is UP TO SOMETHING (32:08)
Thank you, listeners (35:01)
Listener feedback
The Drawing of the Three, The Lady of Shadows
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book II, The Drawing of the Three, The Lady of Shadows.
Introduction (00:00)
Plot Recap (00:50)
Why Odetta/Detta? (03:43)
Why is Odetta so Wealthy? (09:30)
Roland Needs to Merge Odetta and Detta (12:55)
Writing Style Reflects Content (18:36)
More Cultural References (25:28)
Jay’s Favorite Word (27:44)
Changing Character Dynamics of the Group (29:32)
Huh? Moments (37:30)
Closing (46:05)
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The Drawing of the Three, Shuffle
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book 2, The Drawing of the Three, Shuffle.
Introduction (0:00)
Plot Summary (01:04)
Cards Metaphor (02:32)
Talkin’ Ka (06:56)
Talkin’ Eddie (16:42)
Relationship Between Eddie and Roland (30:02)
Random Thoughts (32:07)
Roland’s Backstory (39:14)
Closing (42:40)
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The Drawing of the Three, The Prisoner
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore Book 2 of the Dark Tower, The Drawing of the Three, The Prisoner.
Introduction (00:15)
Chapter Recap (00:50)
Evolution of King’s writing style; Gunslinger to Drawing of the Three (01:49)
Roland’s Greek Chorus (14:23)
The Prisoner: Eddie Dean (21:01)
TV Tropes: The Likable Junkie (31:33)
King Errors (32:34)
Listener Feedback (44:19)
Listener Voice Memo (46:22)
Closing (50:10)
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The Drawing of the Three, Prologue: The Sailor
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book II, The Drawing of the Three: Prologue: The Sailor.
Roland Deschain by Sonya Lucas
Introduction (0:00)
Plot recap (1:00)
Publication history (2:38)
Illustrations by Phil Hale (8:14)
Argument (10:08)
Prologue: The Sailor (16:04)
Fan art from Sonya Lucas (32:40)
Outro (33:55)
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The Gunslinger, Wrap-Up
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we take a look back at The Dark Tower, Book I, The Gunslinger.
Listener feedback (01:42)
Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came, First Stanza (07:46)
Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came, Last Stanza (08:05)
Tease Movie Trailer episode (11:35)
Does The Gunslinger work as a stand-alone story? (13:57)
Book reviews (21:23)
Overall theme (26:30)
Character arcs (38:10)
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The Gunslinger, Chapter 5
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book 1, The Gunslinger, chapter 5.
Introduction (0:00)
Publication History (1:10)
Chapter Structure (4:45)
Tarot Reading (6:00)
Roland’s Vision (16:15)
Questions about the Tower (32:00)
The World’s Oldest Question (37:00)
Time Jump (44:00)
Next Episode (51:00)
Outro (52:00)
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The Gunslinger, Chapter 4
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book I, The Gunslinger, chapter 4.
Introduction (00:00)
Plot Recap and Publication History (00:41)
Action Set Pieces (02:10)
Michael Whelan Illustration (19:00) – http://www.michaelwhelan.com/galleries/gunslinger-slow-mutants/
Love and dying have been my life (33:22)
Civilization coming apart (38:04)
Resumption (51:06)
Closing (56:49)
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The Gunslinger, Chapter 3
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book I, The Gunslinger, chapter 3.
Introduction (00:00)
Plot Recap (00:46)
Both Death and Life are Roland’s Enemy (01:33)
Genre: horror; high fantasy and low fantasy (07:38)
Who is the Man In Black? (16:04)
What does Roland hope to get out of all this? (27:16)
Closing (51:29)
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The Gunslinger, Chapter 2
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower, Book I, The Gunslinger, chapter 2.
Introduction (00:00)
Plot Recap and Publication History (00:41)
The World Moving On (05:07)
Jake and the Gunslinger (23:22)
The Gunslinger is Formidable (44:46)
Closing (55:08)
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The Gunslinger, Chapter 1
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, we explore The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger, chapter 1, “The Gunslinger.”
Intro (00:13)
Publication History (00:49)
Plot Summary (10:41)
Sylvia Pittston (27:05)
Music Sample (38:29) – “Hero” from Psalm 69 by Ministry
King is a Great Writer (40:02)
Outro (48:27)
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Introductions
In this episode of Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came, the hosts (Jay Russo and Sean McGurr) introduce themselves and provide a little bit of background on their connections to the works of Stephen King and the world of the Dark Tower. They also lay out the plan for upcoming episodes of the podcast.
Introduction (00:13)
Jay’s background with the Dark Tower (00:37)
Sean’s background with the Dark Tower (02:11)
What do we do on the show? (03:48)
Support the show on Patreon (06:03)
Outro (06:29)
Lea