Join Roads & Kingdoms and host Nathan Thornburgh for this evolving travel podcast, currently on hiatus in 2024. Archives include long boozy global interviews and Anthony Bourdain-led deep dives. Always, though, beats have been by Dan the Automator, artwork by Daisy Dee, show art by Edel Rodriguez. All advertising proceeds go to NYC's Let Us Breathe Fund for which this show has raised thousands, even in hiatus. So thank you for listening.
Episode 4: Omnivore
Back, for one night only (for now at least), The Trip goes to... Brooklyn. The drink is whiskey highball, and the conversation is with Matt Goulding, co-creator of the new Apple TV+ series Omnivore.
Omnivore on Apple TV+
Roads & Kingdoms' League of Travelers
Portugal's Fisherman's Way trek
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Episode 3: Khachapuri Love
Here, to ring in this new year, is an ode to what should be the next great culinary star from the country of Georgia, the perfect vessel of unadorned cholesterol, the cosmic collision of flour, butter, egg and cheese: Khachapuri.Links:R&K weeklong culinary journeys: The League of TravelersGeorgian market tours: Meet Me Here TbilisiMexico City Market Tours: Eat Like a LocalMarket Tours everywhere else: Culinary BackstreetsTaste of Persia: A Cook's Travels Through Armenia, Azerbaijan,
Episode 2: Chacha Divine
Now that it's cold and flu (and COVID) season, it's time for Georgia's Dayquil of the gods: the pomace brandy called Chacha. Host of The Trip Nathan Thornburgh explains its appeal.Seize the chacha by Ansel MullinsNikalas Marani on IG Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 1: A New Season
The Trip from Roads & Kingdoms and host Nathan Thornburgh is back, with a tight new format, plus lots of distilled alcohol and Soviet helicopters in Georgia's Caucasus Mountains.
The Light of the Caucasus: Photographs by Yuri Kozyrev
Georgia: Q&A with Photographer Natela Grigalashvili
Abkhazia: Paradise Lost
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Episode 84, Barcelona: Matt Goulding
Roads & Kingdoms onlineR&K InstagramReturn to Catalunya video series with Bourdain and Goulding Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 83, Barcelona: Daniel Askenazi
Holding a diverse community together in a time of gathering threats is no easy act. Barcelona's Chief Rabbi thinks he's up to the task.Prior Chief Rabbi of Barcelona “Europe is Lost”The Hidden Stories of Barcelona’s Jews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 82, Barcelona: Pepe Raventòs
21st generation winemaker Pepe Raventós talks about his family's 500 or so years of Catalan winemaking.Raventós i Blanc’s Sparkling WinesRudolf Steiner lecture trashing winePenedés tourism site Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 81, New Hampshire: Zoltan Istvan
Drinking Scotch and talking to a man who is really, really excited about Big Tech.Zoltan Istvan homepage Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 80, New Hampshire: Eva Castillo
Drinking coffee with Eva Castillo, New Hampshire immigrant rights activistMira Coalition homepageRincón ZacatecanoPuerto Vallarta restaurant Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 79, New Hampshire: Gary Hirshberg
Gary Hirshberg was a key early supporter of Barack Obama in New Hampshire, and as chairman of Stonyfield Farm, is an icon of the business of organic food. The Trip met up with him just before the 2020 primary to do shots of probiotics and talk politics.Stonyfield Farm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 78, New Hampshire: Tom Tillotson
Drinking baijiu with Tom Tillotson, whose family has presided over the midnight vote in Dixville Notch, NH for six decades.Show notes:Mitch Moxley's Baijiu piece for California Sunday magazineTom Tillotson’s China Ski Tours websiteBalsams homepage Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 77, Beirut: Farrah Berrou
Lebanese wine expert and podcast host Farrah Berrou takes The Trip Into the Beqaa Valley Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 76, Beirut: Gilles Khoury
L'Orient-Le Jour columnist Gilles Khoury has a keen eye for the lives and aspirations of Beirut's citizens. He took The Trip to The Egg, the heart of Beirut's popular uprising and anti-corruption campaign.Show notes:Tripoli Ka’akeh bread--a favorite dish of the revolutionL’Orient Le JourThe Assassination of Malcom Kerr Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 75, Beirut: Jade George
Drinking Aged Negronis with Jade George: Publisher, Gourmand, RevolutionaryShow notes:The Carton store in HamraBar Ferdinand, BeirutKalei Coffee House Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 74, Beirut: Chyno
Drinking with Chyno, the MC who brought battle rap to Beirut. Get Mamluk, his latest album, here.Show notes:Mamluk, Chyno’s new album from Warner Music Middle EastChyno Instagram accountThe Arena Battle Rap League IG accountRoads & Kingdoms story on the ArenaBattle Rap highlights:Supernatural versus JuiceBlaze Battle 2000: Eyedeaz v ShellsScribble Jam: Eminem 1997Lebanese-American MC Dizaster versus CanibusMore revolution music: Age of the Pimp, Egyptian revolution anthem from Ramy
Episode 73, Beirut: Anissa Helou
Anissa Helou is the author of nine books, and a leading voice of culinary sophistication for the Middle East and beyond. Host Nathan Thornburgh and Anissa shared strong, cloudy Arak in Beirut and talked about Syria, Lebanon, food and feminism.Show notes:Anissa’s blogAnissa’s Instagram accountFeast: Food of the Islamic World Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 72, Tijuana: Panca
A conversation, over some very dank weed, with Tijuana- and San Diego-based muralist Panca.Show notes:Klover dispensary homepagePanca homepage@aypanca on InstagramPanca's upcoming installation at the New Childrens Museum Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 71, Tijuana: Gera Gámez
A conversation in Tijuana with Gera Gámez, deportee and coworker at the legal advocacy group Al Otro Lado, before Gera's untimely death. The work he was doing continues, however, and please donate to Al Otro Lado if you can:Show notes:Al Otro Lado homepageHow to volunteer for Al Otro LadoHow to donate to Al Otro LadoPolice reporter Margarito 4-4’s Facebook pageTijuana Esta Alerta, Jesús Aguilar's News Site on FB Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 70, Tijuana: Jorge Nieto
Journalist Jorge Nieto invites The Trip to his home at the Otay Mesa to talk about being a fixer and journalist in one of the world's most dangerous countries.Show notes: Gustavo Solis on Tijuana fixersPiper French’s interview with Jorge Nieto on Roads & KingdomsR&K's Unbylined series featuring Q&As with fixers around the world Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 69, Tijuana: Ruffo Ibarra
Drinking mezcal old fashioneds with Ruffo Ibarra, a chef at the vanguard of Tijuana's remarkable reinvention.Show notes:Oryx Capital, Ruffo’s flagship restaurantCengrow organic farmGustavo Arellano on the legend of the Donkey ShowSan Diego Union-Tribune on refugees and chefs aidRuffo Ibarra IG account Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 68, Tijuana: Edoardo Chavarín
Drinking cactus-laced "green juice" with iconic cross-border designer Edoardo Chavarín.Our lovely sponsor this episode:Palate ClubShow notes:Edoardo Chavarín siteEdoardo Chavarín InstagramArticle about Chavarín’s coffee shopRodrigo Roji, tattoo artist and collaborator Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 67, Montréal: Jodi Ettenberg
What happens when a celebrated travel writer finds herself suddenly, inextricably homebound? This is not a COVID story. Jodi Ettenberg's health struggles pre-date the pandemic, but her philosophical approach to frailty and flightlessness has lessons for us all.Show notes:LegalNomads.com12 Years of Legal Nomads postJodi Ettenberg’s InstagramThe story of her cerebrospinal fluid leakWhy We Get Jet Lag… and 5 Tips for Making it Less Painful2012 Q&A with Jodi Ettenberg on Roads & Kin
Episode 66, Montréal: Tiffany Deer
Mohawk recipes, resistance and more good medicine with Tiffany Deer in Kahnawake, Quebec.Show notes: Kahnawake Visitors CenterSkywalker exhibit at the 9/11 museumMohawk Girls trailerArticle about Beans, the movie that Tiffany Deer participated in Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 65, Montréal: Johnny Zatylny
Drinking vodka soda and talking growing up Anglophone in Quebec with one of the world’s top Freddie Mercury cover singers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 64, Montréal: Nakuset
Drinking coffee with Nakuset and talking about her childhood as an native adoptee in the dark chapter of Canadian history called the Sixties Scoop.Show notes:If you or someone you know is in distress, please reach out for help or just a conversation: National Suicide Prevention LifelineStolen From Our Embrace, a book about the Sixties scoop, forced assimilation, and the indigenous children who survived it. By Suzanne J. Fournier and Ernie CreyCBC mini-documentary Becoming NakusetTalkbac
Episode 63, Montréal: Patrick Lagacé
You want to figure out a place you really don't know? Bring a journalist some beer, and press record. Our first of five episodes in Montreal starts right there, with Patrick Lagacé.Show notes:Le Quebec Maintenant showPatrick Lagacé’s columns at La PresseNews report on police surveillance of Patrick LagacéPatrick Lagacé’s (doctored) Wikipedia pageGlobe and Mail column by Patrick Lagacé Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 62, Porto: Ana Aragão
Architect-turned-artist Ana Aragão is known for riffing on the skyline of her city or on the Tower of Babel or other astonishments of architecture, then infusing them with a bit of magical realism—earthquakes, apocalypses, worlds without gravity. In this episode of The Trip, she drinks port wine with host Nathan Thornburgh and talks about Porto and the power of imagining.Ana Aragão InstagramReal Editors Ship by Paul FordAna Aragão at TEDxPorto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit pod
Episode 61, Porto: Ansel Mullins
Drinking sugary island punch in Porto with a pioneer in food tourism, Culinary Backstreets' Ansel Mullins.Show notes:Culinary Backstreets home pageNews report of the Istanbul 2003 bombingCulinary Backstreets Porto food tourPaul Rimple on Giorgi Iosava Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 60, Porto: Eduardo Leal
Photojournalist Eduardo Leal drinks vinho verde with host Nathan Thornburgh and talks tourism, gentrification, and those mounds of meat and cheese called Francesinha.Show notes:Forcados “The Bull Wrestlers of Portugal” photoessayEduardo Leal stories on Roads & KingdomsEduardo Leal websiteFestival de Cinema de Aventura in Matosinhos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 59, Nairobi: Muthoni Drummer Queen
Muthoni Drummer Queen on creativity, colonialism, and Kenya's place in the world of music.Show notes:Muthoni on IGMuthoni’s music on SpotifyMuthoni’s official siteBlankets & Wine Concert Series Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 58, Nairobi: Kevin Mwachiro
Talking African stories, LGBTQ rights in Kenya, and surviving cancer with Kevin Mwachiro.
Show notes:
Nipe Story, podcast hosted by Kevin Mwachiro
Java House, Kenyan coffee chain
Video interview from Berlin with Kevin Mwachiro
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Episode 57, Nairobi: Joshua Obaga
Nairobi-based food obsessive Joshua Obaga chews khat with host Nathan Thonburgh and talks about the roots and culture of Kenyan cuisine.Show notes: Joshua Obaga’s InstagramChewing Betel Nut in Myanmar from Roads & KingdomsArticle on Joshua Obaga’s art Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 107, Havana: Eme Alfonso
A conversation in Havana with singer/songwriter/promoter—and daughter of Cuban rock royalty—Eme Alfonso.Show notes:Havana World Music FestivalEme Alfonso video project: Para MestizarEme Alfonso on InstagramEme’s album Voy on BandCamp Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 56, Nairobi: Shravan Vidyarthi
Filmmaker and journalist Shravan Vidyarthi drinks with The Trip in Nairobi and talks about Kenya's 44th official tribe—Kenyans of South Asian descent—and about his project on the martyred photojournalist, his uncle Priya Ramrakha.Paul Theroux on Priya Ramrakha (New Yorker)Priya Ramrakha: The Recovered Archive (Book)Intersect, a global production company founded by Shravan Vidyarthi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 106, Havana: Nancy Cepero
A new generation of Cuban activists is questioning everything, including the heavy, meat-laden Cuban diet. Nancy Cepero, vegan chef, queer anti-racist activist and artist, is proud to be counted among them.Nancy Cepero artwork for saleNancy Cepero on InstagramNancy Cepero on Tik-Tok Grados Restaurant Havana Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 55, Nairobi: Wanuri Kahiu (re-release)
The Trip's five episodes from the heroic city of Nairobi start strong with a rum dawa and a conversation with iconic Kenyan director Wanuri Kahiu.Show notes:Announcement of Wanuri Kahiu’s upcoming feature adaption of The Hate U GiveRafiki trailer TEDx Wanuri Kahiu talkKenya Supreme Court Anti-Homosexuality RulingHajooj Kuka’s documentary Beats of the Antonov Afrobubblegum Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 54, SF's Mission District: Chris Ying
Food writer, podcaster and producer Chris Ying explains why he doesn't mourn the Mission's good old days Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 105, Havana: Mónica Baró
Mónica Baró is an independent journalist, a difficult thing to be in a country where the authorities patrol public information like sharks on the reef. She and The Trip's host, foreign correspondent Nathan Thornburgh, talk about their respective arrests in Cuba, and about why she does what she does, despite all the risks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 53, SF's Mission District: Emiliana Puyana
La Cocina is a heroic San Francisco non-profit that helps women—mostly immigrants and women of color—start and sustain their own businesses in food. La Cocina's Emiliana Puyana is ideally suited to help them realize their dreams. So we drank negronis in 2019 and talked about it all.
Links:
La Cocina’s website
We Are La Cocina: Recipes in Pursuit of the American Dream
Por Una Cabeza by Carlos Gardel
La Cocina Gift Boxes
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Episode 52, SF's Mission District: Vero Majano
The artist behind the Remember Los Siete project talks about the resilience of her native Mission District.Remember Los Siete videoRememberlos7.comBrava! For Women in the Arts Bio PageVero Majano on Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 104, Havana: Ailed Duarte
Ailed Duarte is co-founder of La Marca studio, which has helped bring tattoo art, once illegal throughout Cuba, into the mainstream. She and host Nathan Thornburgh talked at the first-ever international tattoo convention in Havana, about the robust art and precarious commerce of Cuban tattooing.Links:La Marca InstagramLa Marca HomepageHuck Magazine feature on Mike Magers’ tattoo photographyMike Mager’s bookstoreDoctor Lakra tattoo artist IG Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcas
Episode 51, Iraq: Ahmed Najm
My final Iraq episode is a necessarily intense conversation with Ahmed Najm, whose life changed when ISIS kidnapped his brother Kamaran Najm, co-founder of Iraq's Metrography Photo Agency, in 2014, Kamaran still hasn't been found, but his brother has become an invaluable guardian of his brother's life work and legacy.Links:Episode excerpt on R&KMetrography IGMetrography WebsiteRough Translation: The Search, a two-part series on Kamaran and AhmedRoads & Kingdoms IG, Metrography T
Episode 50, Iraq: Sangar Khaleel
Behind almost every great piece of war reporting is a local fixer. In Mosul, that fixer was Sangar Khaleel, whose LandRover and endless contacts kept him and the journalists he worked with safe through Iraq's darkest days.Show notes:Sangar Khaleel InstagramWest Mosul Music in the RuinsSangar and Jane Arraf’s NPR report on Syrian ISIS nostalgiaNPR’s Rough Translation podcast with Sangar: DIY MosulKurt Schork Award page Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 103, Havana: Telmary
Telmary Díaz is one of the most innovative Cuban artists of the last two decades. She's also a really good person to drink rum with in Havana to talk about music, migration and more.Show notes:Telmary: Libre (music video)Telmary & HabanaSana YouTube channelAnnia Linares: A Mi ManeraSantiago de Cuba Rum Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 49, Iraq: Basima Abdulrahman
Drinking tea and talking about long-term thinking in Kurdistan's capital city with civil engineer and sustainability expert Basima Abdulrahman.Show links: Basima Abdulrahman’s KESK Green Building ConsultancyBasima Abdulrahman profile on Auburn WebsiteCity of Erbil websiteBasima Abdulrahman’s TEDx Nishtiman speech Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 48, Iraq: Cengiz Yar
Cengiz Yar is an acclaimed American photojournalist and photo editor, He is also a longtime colleague and, for this podcast, our guide to northern Iraq, during Ramadan in 2019. He mixed us some excellent Old Fashioneds with Black Jack Jordanian whiskey and talked about war, peace and growing up Jersey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 102, Berlin: Anton Newcombe
Drinking deeply in Berlin with Anton Newcombe, talking about growing up in Newport Beach, making his way to San Francisco, and everything in music from contracts to creativity.
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Episode 47, Appalachian Roadtrip: Katie Button
Chef Katie Button and her husband run an Asheville, NC restaurant group that includes Cúrate, one of America’s finest Spanish restaurants. In this interview recorded in 2019, she talks about making bagels in biscuit country, and how restaurants can be better workplaces for women.
Show notes:
Cúrate Restaurant
Katie Button’s Announcement about the Closure of Button & Co. Bagels
Vegetables Unleashed
El Bulli Foundation
Asheville’s Downtown Welcome Table
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Episode 46, Appalachian Roadtrip: Kevin Forrester
A deep conversation about moonshine and life in Appalachia between host Nathan Thornburgh and his longtime Appalachia-whisperer Kevin Forrester outside of Damascus, VirginiaShow notes:Abingdon VineyardsChannels State ForestDamascus, VAKings County Distillery “Moonshine” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 101, Berlin: Simon Shuster
Moscow-born foreign correspondent Simon Shuster came to California as a child and returned to Russia as an adult to start his career in journalism. But it was Berlin that gave him a family and became a home base while doing some of his most impactful reporting, from the Trumpworld dealings in Ukraine to the refugee crisis in the Mediterranean. He and host Nathan Thornburgh talk about all that, and about their similar life paths, from the nostalgic center of Berlin.
Show notes:
Meine Bar Berlin
S
Episode 45, Appalachian Roadtrip: Mike Costello
Writer, podcaster and Appalachian culinary evangelist Mike Costello drinks with host Nathan Thornburgh at the Lost Creek Farm in West Virginia.Show notes:Lost Creek FarmPickle Shelf Radio HourHawk Knob Appalachian Hard CiderVictuals: An Appalachian Journey, with Recipes, by Ronni LundyMike Costello on Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 44, Appalachian Roadtrip: Jeffery Lindenmuth
Jeffery Lindenmuth and host Nathan Thornburgh sit down for a before-noon blind bourbon tasting at the Pennsylvania offices of Whisky Advocate. Among the topics of conversation: good value whisky, why "burning hospital" can be a desirable tasting note, and why Billy Joel did Allentown so dirty.Show notes:Whisky AdvocateJeffery Lindenmuth on IGEpisode excerpt on Roads & Kingdoms Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 100, Berlin: Jennifer Neal
Chicago native Jennifer Neal, author of the forthcoming novel The Colour of Her Blood, has spent her adult life trying out life overseas. In Berlin, she has found a home. For now.
Jennifer and host Nathan Thornburgh sit in her apartment in Berlin and drink "hut dream" tea and talk about it all.
Show notes:
Perfect Dish: Singapore
Perfect Dish: Jakarta
Jennifer Neal on Instagram
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Episode 43, London: Nud Dudhia
Breddo's Tacos in London made a name for itself by combining deep flavors from Mexico with the kind of global inventiveness that London excels at. Nud Dudhia was born for this—born in Zambia, educated in the UK, converted to the joys of al pastor while on a break in Puerto Escondido, Oaxaca. Nud and host Nathan Thornburgh sipped mezcal in the morning and talked through it all.
Show notes:
Breddos Tacos
Bill Esparza’s Taqueando
Nic Cage in Leaving Las Vegas
The ‘mad clammer’ Roddy Sloan
Cat & Mu
Episode 42, London: Hilary Whitney
Hilary Whitney and Ian Hart make some of the best gin in the world. And they did it, until recently, all from a room in their home in leafy Highgate, north London. Hilary talks with host Nathan Thornburgh there about gin, writing, and seizing the means of Negroni production.
Show notes:
World Gin Awards 2019
In Our Time: The Gin Craze (BBC radio episode)
Flask Fine Wines in Los Angeles (Sacred Spirits US distributor)
Bounty Hunter Wine in Napa (Sacred Spirits US distributor)
The New Gin Craze by
Episode 99, Berlin: Billy Wagner
Drinking unique wines in Kreuzberg at the home of Billy Wagner, sommelier and proprietor of Berlin's Michelin-starred Nobelhart & Schmutzig. Episode two of five Berlin episodes on The Trip!Show notes:Nobelhart & SchmutzigWeingut LeinerEva Fricke Rheingau winemaker profile from PunchThe Carton Magazine shop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 41, London: Sami Tamimi
Sami Tamimi’s book Falastin: a Cookbook, co-written with Tara Wigley, is part travelogue, part guidebook for the home cook, it’s the first step into the spotlight for Tamimi’s gifted culinary mind and his own personal story. In this episode, he sat down with The Trip host Nathan Thornburgh over some Waitrose prosecco to talk about his life in cooking, navigating the tensions of the Middle East, and why hummus alone won’t solve our problems.This episode was previously paywalled on Lumina
Episode 40, London: Oliver Bullough
Oliver Bullough is one of my favorite journalists on earth, most recently the author of Moneyland: The Inside Story of the Crooks and Kleptocrats Who Rule the World. He is an expert at plainly describing the complex ways we’re all being screwed by the shadowy billionaire economy, a skill that is all the more vital during this pandemic which has been so strangely profitable for the elite. Oliver and I met up in London in 2019 and for this vodka-fueled conversation about the wild world of
Episode 98, Berlin: Musa Okwonga
Musa Okwonga's upcoming novella In the End, It Was All About Love is a gorgeous meditation on being a foreigner, and a Black man, in today's Berlin. It's why I wanted to start The Trip's five episodes in Berlin with him: for a relatively recent arrival, he communicates the city on a deep and lyrical level. So we sat together (pre-COVID) in my friend's house in Berlin, drank several Moscow Mules, and talked about schnitzel, football, and what Musa calls the psychogeography—emotion imbued even int
Episode 97: Queens
How do you travel in a world on lockdown? Just start at home. And in this, now, I have a mighty advantage. Because this month, I moved from Manhattan to the Borough of Queens, the most linguistically diverse place on earth. This episode has three would-be guides to this new life: writers Laurie Woolever and Tiffany Langston, along with Astoria souvlaki legend Elpida Vasiliadis.
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Episode 96: Remembering Kim Wall
This episode, we’re not talking about how the gifted journalist and traveler Kim Wall died, we’re talking about how she lived. And we’re doing it by talking with journalists Caterina Clerici, Christina Ayele Djossa, and Ingrid Wall—who is also Kim’s mother and author of A Silenced Voice of a new book about her life and work.This episode opens with the beautiful singing of Aidi Songlong, a musician who sings a traditional Moso music style called ahabhala. Christina Ayele Djossa reported
Episode 95: A New Album in Madrid and Other Good News
As the pandemic grinds on, I find myself unseasonably emotional about newborns and weddings, like some kind of weepy grandpa. Any good thing to latch on to in these twilight year, I guess. I feel that way about my old friend’s new album. Como Vivir en el Campo is a Madrid-based rock trio, and their drummer is Carlos Barros, who has been both friend and family to me over the years. Carlos has introduced me to many things, not least the nearly inexhaustible pleasures of Julio Iglesias’ al
Bourdain Day
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Episode 94: Bali, Three Ways
I know I don’t often cop to it, but this is a travel podcast, and this week, we’re going to travel. Far, far away, to Bali, Indonesia. And we’ll do it through the perspectives of a traveler (Travis Levius), an eater (Duwi Satrio), and a legendary pastry chef (Will Goldfarb). Along the way, of course, we’ll talk a bit about race and migration and surviving cancer, because life isn’t all suckling pig and ginger flower daluman, even in Bali. Let’s start with Travis Levius, a luxury travel
Episode 93: The American Diaspora
Michelle Borok is one of something like 9 million Americans who live overseas—nobody’s quite sure how many there are, nobody cares much about counting them. But one thing is certain: they are a more diverse group than you might think. This week, I’m talking with three American women, writers all—Michelle Borok, Sarah Souli, and Ruth Terry—about what it’s like to be Korean-American in Mongolia, Arab-American in Athens, and Black American in Istanbul, watching all this nonsense from afar.
Episode 92: The African-American view, from Taiwan
The writer and comedian Jennifer Neal used to have a deeply smart travel column for The Root called Blaxit, with one very simple premise: things are just too twisted for Black Americans, so they might, like she had, be feeling the urge to go live in some other, freer country. But where? What is it like being black in different parts of Asia, Europe, elsewhere? Jennifer’s column was a way to find out. I recorded with Jennifer in Berlin for a pre-COVID episode of this show that I hope we
Episode 91: A Very Simple Pleasure
Along with twitterfights, long calls to the unemployment office, and heartfelt conversations with your new sourdough starters, alcohol seems to be a defining obsession of this pandemic. I’ll leave it to the rehab centers and 12 steppers to clean up the mess afterwards; this week, I just need a drink. But not just a box of wine or something, I want something escapist, evocative, alluring. I want a cocktail dammit, something with some class, and this week I’m taking the Trip to Angola, Ja
Episode 90: In Defense of Wet Markets
Conversations about wet markets with four people who know them very well: Ro Vasquez of Eat Like a Local in Mexico City, journalist Austin Bush in Bangkok, Paul Rimple of Culinary Backstreets in Tbilisi, and Auburn University food historian Xaq Frohlich.
If you’ve had the feeling recently everything seems extra bad all at once, in a way that exceeds even your worst and darkest thoughts, well here’s a theory: maybe it’s because everything is related. It’s all one sweater, and this global tug on
Episode 89: Covid Vibe Vacuum
This week on The Trip, a restaurant opens in Oslo, an Ontario activist wants to reform hospital food, and a New Orleans writer calls out the exploitation of hospitality workers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 88: Plan B, or Maybe C
This week on The Trip, writer Drew Magary talks about his new novel Point B. Journalist Cheryl Lu-Lien Tan calls from Singapore to talk about her time in a quarantine hotel. Le Monde photo editor Pauline Eiferman talks pandemic photography from Paris. Show notes: Point B by Drew Magary Drew Magary on Twitter Sarong Party Girls by Cheryl Lu-Lien Tan Cheryl Lu-Lien Tan on Twitter Within French Borders, Le Monde photo series curated by Pauline Eiferman Pauline Eiferman on Instagra
Episode 87: A Death in Harlem
More than 15,000 people have died of COVID-19 so far in New York City. Marketing director Tamika Hall lost her grandmother to the disease in Rockaway just before her father died of terminal cancer in Harlem. But with hospice services in the city all but suspended, Tamika had to learn on the fly how to give her father a good death.Show notes:Gone from my Sight: the Dying ExperienceTamika Hall (@LadyBlogga) on Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 86: Rest Easy, Shokunin
Sometime over the last week, after the 7 o’clock cowbells and airhorns and clapping couples on their balconies died down each night, I started to hear a baritone echoing off the sidewall of the hardware store a block away on Broadway and 98th. It wasn’t until Saturday evening, when I walked the dog down Broadway itself, that I realized that this was no mere living room hobbyist. There were at least a dozen people, properly spaced, including a Mt Sinai ambulance crew on break, who had co
Episode 85: The World in Lockdown
Now this is a place I never thought we would record from. This is my apartment, on west 97th street, in Manhattan, New York, USA. That sound is our daily 7pm cacerolazo outside. The cacerolazo, the banging of pots and casserole pans, was a South American invention, a form of earshot solidarity for times of government lockdown. I heard it in person a few months ago in Beirut, during their street revolution. It had already spread across the globe, even ahead of the virus, a contagious goo
Episode 64: Surviving the 60s Scoop
In the center of Cabot Square in downtown Montreal, there is a high column topped with a statue of the spice trader John Cabot, who landed on Canada’s coast more than 500 years ago. Sitting on the benches all around the statue—unloved, unheeded, unhoused—are the descendants of the people Cabot landed on, a semi-permanent population of homeless, mostly indigenous, mostly Inuit, people who live in or around the square.This episode was recorded on Canadian Thanksgiving, a holiday that is a
Episode 55: Wanuri Kahiu
Ah, chatting about the weather. A bit of timeworn small-talk, favored by fumbly podcast hosts everywhere. But that pleasant chill in the air in Nairobi in early summer; that is at the heart of everything we’re going to be talking about over the next weeks here in Kenya. That cool climate, it seems, was Nairobi’s original sin, the thing that first drew British civil engineers to build a rail depot here in 1899. Pity the poor colonizer, who had been trying to subjugate so many peoples in the unbea
Episode 38: Africa, Fashion, Philadelphia
For the next two weeks, this show will be in Philadelphia, to give a taste of this fine American city.Over the past few decades, Philadelphia has had real problems, but also a lot of image problems: a local police detective decided to label a whole part of the city’s north as the Philadelphia Badlands and just last week someone noticed that Google Maps was still actually labeling it that. Which is bullshit. Back when I was a reporter covering the northeast U.S., I dipped into Philly qui
Episode 37: Growing Up in the Camps
If you want to know the best thing about Gardena, in south central Los Angeles, I’ll tell you. I think it’s Diana’s, a Mexican lunch counter with apocalyptically good machaca and fresh masa sold by the kilo. It’s especially good if you can meet Yukio Iwamasa there. Yukio, an artist and entrepreneur approaching his mid-80s, lives around the corner from Diana’s, in the house where he spent half his childhood, back when Gardena was a Japanese-American enclave filled with strawberry farms a
Episode 36: California+Kris = Night+Market
The last time I had seen Kris Yenbamroong, he and his partner Sarah St Lifer were giving me a ride into downtown Chiang Mai from a village on the outskirts. I had thought about interviewing him in Northern Thailand, since we were there, and since his Night+Market restaurants in Los Angeles are nominally Thai places. But the more he talked about his restaurants, and about himself, it was clear, as we put it in this episode, these aren’t Thai Restaurants. These are LA restaurants.
That’s why, fo
Episode 35: Carolina Miranda in her East LA Eden
Los Angeles is a place that is too big, too deep, spread too thin under the marine layer and above the concrete culverts to give you, the visitor, any idea of what the hell is really going on. I didn’t know that the first half-dozen or times I came, and I didn’t understand the place at all. And if I’ve learned anything in the decades since, it’s that you need your people. The ones who have found their place in the basin and can bring you along and communicate their vision of what Los Angeles me
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Episode 34: Dr. Howard Conyers is Reclaiming BBQ for Black Pitmasters
We are in mid-city New Orleans with Dr. Howard Conyers, host of the PBS show Nourish, a rocket scientist by day and whole hog barbecue pitmaster by night and by weekend. If we have to have only one more episode in this flagrantly fabulous town, then we’re glad it's with Dr. Conyers. He is originally from the deep South, the rural South, but he chose to make New Orleans his home after Katrina. We talked about that move and about how black pitmasters are reclaiming barbecue and about exac
Episode 33: Pepper Bowen is Laying Down the Food Law in New Orleans
New Orleans is so old, so fine, so big in the culture, and so vast in its disappointments and its triumphs, that it feels odd to mention just one side of the crescent kaleidoscope. But we have to call out one thing that has long attracted us to the city: New Orleans is like Disneyland for day-drinkers. In other cities, we sometimes have to apologize a bit for asking our guests to drink before sundown. When The Trip editor Tafi told this week’s guest, the food lawyer Pepper Bowen, that w
Episode 32: L. Kasimu Harris Imagines an Uprising in New Orleans
There is nothing more political, fascinating, uplifting, infuriating than school. The country we are as reflected in our education system is not always how we would like to think of ourselves. But the reflection is true. Take Nathan’s city of New York—last week the city’s best public school (Stuyvesant) sent out 895 acceptance letters for the class of 2023, but only 7 of those went to black students. SEVEN. In a school district where almost 70% of the students are black or Hispanic, it is outrag
Episode 31: Francis Lam is on a Bleisure Trip to Thailand
The morning after a wedding—any big party—is usually a little groggy. It’s not necessarily unpleasant, especially if it’s February in Thailand and the air is a little bit cool and very humid, and you’re kicking around in a quiet village along the Ping River with someone like Francis Lam. Francis, besides being a classically-trained chef, former New York Times columnist, lauded cookbook editor at Clarkson Potter, and host of The Splendid Table on American Public Media is also one of the
Episode 30: Naomi Duguid on the Charms of Chiang Mai
The Trip host Nathan Thornburgh would not be the first person to admit to falling deeply, darkly in love with the markets of Southeast Asia. There’s just something about the slurry of exhaust, sticky air and stickier rice, knockoff Premier League kits, fresh fruit, and dried worms, wild lime leaves, mango hawkers, and sausage mongers. They hit you in all the senses. They imprint on your brain. And nobody has helped Nathan and countless others decode that imprint and make sense of those
Episode 29: Creating Thai Cinema with Tom Waller
In this week’s episode, you’ll hear the bird call of the Asian koel, but the real soundtrack of Bangkok is the internal combustion engine: the mopeds and the Mazda 2s. It’s a city of perpetual motion. Just be sure to look both ways before crossing.This is the first of three episodes we’ll be running from Thailand.We’re starting off with Tom Waller, a Thai-Irish filmmaker who took me for a classic Bangkok morning fix—roadside Thai iced tea—and chatted with Nathan at his home studio about
Episode 28: Tokyo Fixing with Shinji Nohara
Shinji Nohara has been making good things happen for visitors to Tokyo for almost two decades—ever since a lanky camera-shy writer named Anthony Bourdain arrived with Lydia Tenaglia and Chris Collins to shoot their first television episode ever. Shinji was the fixer for that episode. First, he found out what Tony’s food-kinks were, and then he delivered those deepest desires in one single sizzling experience that, by Tony’s own admission, changed his life. That’s Shinji’s job, and nobod
Episode 27: Japanese Love Hotels with Toko Sekiguchi
This podcast episode should have porn, right?” It’s an odd but necessary question to put to my old friend and former TIME Magazine colleague, Tokyo-based business journalist Toko Sekiguchi. But she’s a gamer, that Toko, and for this episode, falling close to Valentine’s Day, she’s taking us inside the world of Japanese Love Hotels. Toko and I have done this before, four years ago, while I was reporting for Matt Goulding’s book Rice, Noodle, Fish. But Japan is always in flux, and the inf
Episode 26: Yasmin Khan Cooks Her Way through Palestine
Chef, author and former human rights campaigner Yasmin Khan seems to have a mission statement very like our own at Roads & Kingdoms. That is, pay attention to what’s on the plate in a way that might spark some change and bring people together (and have a damned good time doing so). There aren’t many books that try to do all of that as gorgeously as Zaitoun, Yasmin’s new book about Palestinian cuisine. We met a while back at the Roads & Kingdoms office in Brooklyn as Yasmin somehow hacked a prett
Episode 25: What Jason Rezaian Learned as a Prisoner in Iran
Iranian-American Jason Rezaian, native of Marin County, was just trying to report on the daily lives and hopes of the people of Tehran. But as his gripping new book Prisoner details, he instead ended up in the notorious Evin Prison, a chess piece in an international showdown between the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States. He sat down with host Nathan Thornburgh over classic Cokes and talked about the day he and his wife were arrested, what he thinks of his captors, and his s
Episode 24: Edel Rodriguez is Stress-Testing Democracy
You’ve seen this man's illustrations on the cover of TIME magazine or Der Spiegel, or on signs wherever the Trump-phobic meet and rally. His depictions of the 45th president as an ISIS executioner, a klansman, or just a melting orange mess do exactly what he intended. They provoke, they inform, they communicate the loud perils of our moment, wordlessly. When host Nathan Thornburgh started The Trip podcast with Anthony Bourdain a year ago, he knew exactly who he wanted to get to design o
Episode 23: A Life in the Commune with Tanja Fox
Not all revolutionaries wear bandoliers full of bullets. Some of them tend beautiful little gardens next to a wooden cottage they built in a neighborhood called Dandelion. That’s the kind of revolutionary that Tanja Fox is. Tanja has spent her entire life living a little bit differently, in one of the world’s most fascinating districts, the commune of Christiania in Copenhagen, Denmark.As a social experiment Christiania has been remarkably resilient, a bit of squatted military base turn
Episode 22: Jennifer Ching is Dismantling the System
One of host Nathan Thornburgh’s New Year’s resolutions is to stop just stepping past all the human misery in New York City and actually think about helping. But how? Jennifer Ching might know. She’s an immigrant, a Harvard grad, a lawyer, and now the executive director of North Star Fund, a community foundation that focuses not on just giving money, but also giving power, to the oppressed and the underserved of New York. She and Nathan drink Flor y Machete herbal tea (from an activist h
Episode 21: Beyond War with Yuri Kozyrev
For 25 years, photographer Yuri Kozyrev covered conflicts from Afghanistan to Chechnya, Iraq, Libya and beyond. His combination of frontline fearlessness and human compassion won him the highest awards in his industry. And then, he chose to stop covering war. He talked in Moscow with host Nathan Thornburgh, who worked alongside Kozyrev throughout Russia and the Caucasus while they were both at TIME Magazine. They talked about the late great Stanley Greene, about traveling with mujahedin
Episode 20: Matt Orlando's Restaurant of the Future
Matt Orlando has worked at some of the great restaurants on this planet. Per Se in New York; The Fat Duck in the UK; Noma in Copenhagen, where he was head chef under Rene Redzepi. But it wasn’t until he opened his restaurant Amass—and looked in his own dumpster—that he found his true calling. As you’ll hear in this episode, his vision for a zero-waste restaurant is idealistic, inspiring, and is somehow also super delicious. Host Nathan Thornburgh sat down with him in Galway—the last of
Episode 19: Punking the Paiche with Michael Snyder
Journalist Michael Snyder writes about food, conflict, the environment, and fishing. That slurry of interests brought him to the Bolivian Amazon for an investigation into the invasive Paiche, a hulking, invasive fish that is destroying old ecosystems and building new economies. In this episode, host Nathan Thornburgh talks with Michael about the resulting Roads & Kingdoms feature Invasion of a River Fish, and they get to the important business of both insulting the fish's intelligen
Episode 18: Japanese Energy Drinks with W. Kamau Bell
This year's Emmy Awards were a big night for the people who worked with Anthony Bourdain, with Emmys going to Roads & Kingdoms, Zero Point Zero, and—for his own brilliant show—to W. Kamau Bell, who had traveled to Kenya with Bourdain for a recent episode of Parts Unknown. They are two very different hosts with very different shows, but they shared a common drive to make important television that is entertaining as hell. Bell talked through all this with Nathan Thornburgh while sippi
Episode 17: Tacos in Viking Country with Rosio Sanchez
One of the great shortcomings of northern Europe—an otherwise pleasant place with soft sunsets and universal healthcare—has always been the utter lack of quality Mexican food. Rosio Sanchez, a celebrated restaurateur and chef from Chicago who has worked at some of the best restaurants on earth, is changing that. She talked with Nathan about living in Copenhagen, cooking fjord shrimp in salsa diabla, and what authenticity means to her. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoic
Episode 16: San Francisco Happy Hour with Dan the Automator
Dan "the Automator" Nakamura is one of the great music producers of our time. Someone who, like Brian Eno or Phil Spector, changed the sound of an entire decade. The fact that he did it as an Asian-American breaking into hiphop way back in the early 90s, well, there's a story. Automator mixed some excellent negronis at his studio in San Francisco and talked with Nathan about his unlikely path to hiphop immortality and why he's owning his Asian-American identity now more than ever. Learn
Episode 15: Hammered Vegans with Shannon Martinez
Shannon Martinez is the chef behind the famed Smith & Daughters vegan restaurant in Melbourne, Australia. After soiling a couple Bloody Marys with Ireland's cheapest vodka (Huzzar!), Shannon and host Nathan Thornburgh talk about everything from meat-free pub fare to sharpie skinhead diets and why vegans just want to get drunk and screw like the rest of us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 14: Dreams of Pickled Heron in Galway
Michelin-starred chef and author JP McMahon talks with host Nathan Thornburgh on the eve of his annual Food on the Edge conference in Galway, Ireland. Topics include Dingle Gin, Anthony Bourdain, and why McMahon left his kids at the bar with his credit card. Also on the conversational menu: pickled heron, swan pie and other delicious cruelties of yore. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 13: Sipping through Austria
Somewhere in a hotel room in central Moscow, steps away from a frenzied nationalist Victory Day rally, Nathan shares a mini-bar white wine with writer Alexa van Sickle and talks about her sorta-homeland Austria. Her epic roadtrip story, Farewell to the Alps, took her across her country in search of beer, wine and booze. Along the way there is plenty of thinking about nationality, belonging, doctored wine and subpar whisky. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adcho
Episode 12: Marketing a Better Mezcal
Niki Nakazawa's path took her from the northeastern US to Mexico City to Oaxaca, from art to food and now to Neta, a mezcal brand devoted to supporting small producers. She talks with host Nathan Thornburgh about the future of mezcal and why Mexico is a great place for hustlers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 11: Fermenting in Oaxaca
Paulina Garcia grew up in Saltillo, in the north of Mexico. But when she and a group of friends began looking in their early 20s for a life with a bit more meaning and mission, they ended up in Oaxaca, in Mexico's southern mountains, baking and canning and pickling and generally breaking the Internet with their beautiful food. In this episode, Paulina talks mushroom tea, coyote skins and how her group of Norteños ended up so far from home.
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Episode 10: Day Drinking at Netflix
Samin Nosrat grew up in Southern California, hearing plenty about the flavors of Iran. But her path took her to another country, Italy, where her perspective on cooking and living changed forever. In this episode, Nathan shares a bottle of Italian amaro with Samin in a corporate conference room, way too early in the morning, as they talk about cocktails, careers, and Samin's gorgeous new Netflix show Salt Fat Acid Heat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoice
Episode 9: Chasing Korean Cornbread
When Nicole Choi's mother went through a bruising round of chemotherapy in Maryland, she craved nothing more than an old postwar Korean cornbread. Nicole set out to recreate it for her. Read her essay on R&K.
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Episode 8: Drinking Saint Petersburg
Asya Khramchenkova is an owner of the legendary Bar Khroniki in Saint Petersburg, As such she's the best person we can think of to talk about the borderlands between Finland and Russia, their culture, and their alcohol. She sat with host Nathan Thornburgh in the Leningrad Documentary Film Studio with a few swiped shot glasses and together they drank their way through smoked apple cider, heavy California-style IPA beer from Karelia, and caraway spirits that will knock you off your barsto
Episode 7: A damn fine mezcal
In the first episode of The Trip after the death of his partner Anthony Bourdain, host Nathan Thornburgh communes in a squatted Beverly Hills hotel room with two people who knew Bourdain well: chef José Andrés and Roads & Kingdoms co-founder Matt Goulding. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 6: Goats, Gods and Garlic
A conversation with foreign correspondent Anup Kaphle about his favorite foods growing up in Nepal, and why his parents refuse to cook them anymore.
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Episode 5: The Man We Call Chacho
Roads & Kingdoms co-founder Matt Goulding had one last chance to win over the Spanish girl he was hoping to date. So he hopped in a car with her father Angel, drove south for six hours to the cave community where Angel grew up, helped slaughter a pig, and met Chacho, The rest is history. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 4: The Sandwich that Ate Pakistan
"Crispy, spicy, crunchy." The very hungry writer Saba Imtiaz talks with equally hungry host Nathan Thornburgh about how the KFC Zinger Burger became a breakout hit in her native Karachi and why zinger is now a generic term for spicy chicken sandwiches throughout Pakistan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 3: Superman of Havana
Join foreign correspondent Mitch Moxley on a hunt through Havana for a pre-Revolutionary Cuban porn star whose enormous, umm, talent made him the stuff of legend. Superman, as he was known, appeared in Godfather II, was the object of Graham Greene's obsession, and was both victim and symbol of the amoral mafia-run hedonism of Batista's Cuba. And then, Superman just disappeared. Mitch Moxley unspools myth from legend on his way to finding the only known evidence of Superman's, umm, gift.
Episode 2: Dancing with the Dead
They call it the Turning of the Bones: a joyous, drunken festival in Madagascar that keeps the dead close to the living. War correspondent and photojournalist Jacob Russell brings humor and heart to this story from the ceremony and what it taught him about his own family's response to death and grief. Also: lots of drunken trumpet playing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode 1: The Root of All Things
In the first episode of The Trip, R&K editor Cara Parks casts a skeptical eye on her colleague's self-indulgent voyage of hallucinatory discovery through the Amazon. Turns out, she may have a point. Music by Dan the Automator, podcast artwork by Edel Rodriguez, introduction by Anthony Bourdain, hallucinations by Nathan Thornburgh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The Trip from R&K: trailer
An early look at The Trip, a new podcast from Anthony Bourdain's partners at Roads & Kingdoms, an online journal of travel, food and politics. Hosted by foreign correspondent Nathan Thornburgh, each episode dives deep behind the scenes of a reporting trip somewhere in the world, from Havana to the Himalayas, from jungle hallucinogens to Andalusian cave cooking. Get ready for the ride. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices