The RegenNarration Podcast

The RegenNarration Podcast

Anthony James

The RegenNarration podcast features the stories of a generation that is changing the story, enabling the regeneration of life on this planet. It’s ad-free, freely available and entirely listener-supported. You'll hear from high profile and grass-roots leaders from around Australia and the world, on how they're changing the stories we live by, and the systems we create in their mold. Along with often very personal tales of how they themselves are changing, in the places they call home. With award-winning host, Anthony James. 

249. Journey to a Future Council: Damon Gameau (‘world’s best movie director’) on his new film

249. Journey to a Future Council: Damon Gameau (‘world’s best movie director’) on his new film

‘School of Rock’ meets ‘An Inconvenient Truth’. Damon Gameau, director of award-winning, chart-topping documentary films 2040, and That Sugar Film, takes eight kids on the ultimate school excursion: a road trip across Europe to challenge powerful leaders and find solutions to our greatest challenges. That’s how the bill reads for Damon’s new feature documentary film, Future Council. The group’s mission was to take the conversation from the streets, into the boardrooms of some of the world’s larg

Feb 18, • 54:21

248. Turning Problems into Solutions Across Australia & the Americas: With Mike DiGirolamo for Mongabay

248. Turning Problems into Solutions Across Australia & the Americas: With Mike DiGirolamo for Mongabay

Last month I had the honour of being a guest on the podcast of the legendary independent US media outlet Mongabay. It was a unique conversation, with US-born host Mike DiGirolamo based in Sydney, and me over here in the Americas, talking about some highlights from the seven months me and the family spent travelling across the USA last year, and relating it back to the seven years we’d travelled around Australia with the podcast before that. Mike produced a unique patch up too, interspersing our

Feb 11, • 46:35

247. Celebrating GROUNDED Festival: Behind the scenes with Matthew Evans & Sadie Chrestman

247. Celebrating GROUNDED Festival: Behind the scenes with Matthew Evans & Sadie Chrestman

Welcome to a new year and new series of The RegenNarration! You might remember me talking last year with prominent author, documentary maker and farmer at Fat Pig Farm, Matthew Evans, in the lead up to the new festival he’s founded back home in Australia, called GROUNDED: the Food and Soil Festival. Well, that festival happened in early December, and a couple of weeks later I got back online with Matthew to talk about what happened, how it happened, and if it might happen again.And hearing how h

Feb 4, • 1:01:58

246. Launching a Substack: The stories behind & between the podcasts

246. Launching a Substack: The stories behind & between the podcasts

Time to take a punt this year! I've just launched a Substack. Essentially, after 25 years in international and community development, and nearly a decade creating TheRegenNarration podcast, I began to feel something missing – the stories between the stories. The ones that don’t get on the podcast. And the ones that connect it all up - the themes, the people, the places.I started to wonder if writing some of these stories would be fun and useful. All the more after hearing Rebecca Solnit aff

Jan 30, • 10:30

245. Cultural Economies at the Greatest Rock Art Gallery in the World, with Clinton Walker (in full)

245. Cultural Economies at the Greatest Rock Art Gallery in the World, with Clinton Walker (in full)

Clinton Walker is a Ngarluma/Yindjibarndi man and Traditional Custodian of Murujuga (or Burrup Peninsula), on the north-west coast of Australia. You might recall my conversations with archaeologist Peter Veth and the co-authors of Songlines, Lynne Kelly and Margo Neale. They all related back to this place – where the Songlines start, as Clinton puts it. So as my family and I headed south from the Kimberley at the end of 2021, Clinton and I met up to record a yarn for the Clean State podcast. Tha

Jan 28, • 1:10:03

244. The First State to End Native Forest Logging, with Jess Beckerling (in full)

244. The First State to End Native Forest Logging, with Jess Beckerling (in full)

Jess Beckerling was Campaign Director of the WA Forest Alliance (WAFA) when we had this conversation (she’s currently put all aside to stand at the 2025 WA state election). Jess is a highly respected figure in the southern reaches of Western Australia, by both those who would traditionally have prioritised conservation, and those who might not have. I spoke with Jess back in July 2021 for the Clean State podcast. At the time, WAFA was seizing the opportunity it sensed to finally end native fores

Jan 25, • 42:14

243. The AgZero 2030 Journey: Simon Wallwork & Cindy Stevens on a growing agriculture-led movement

243. The AgZero 2030 Journey: Simon Wallwork & Cindy Stevens on a growing agriculture-led movement

Simon Wallwork and Cindy Stevens live with their three kids on a farm in Corrigin, in WA’s wheatbelt. In 2019 they joined a group of other producers to found AgZero2030, an agriculture-led movement progressing positive action on climate. Their goal? That agriculture achieves net zero emissions by 2030, and the drawdown of emissions after that. In other words, that agriculture go from being a key contributor to global warming and its increasingly catastrophic effects, to being a key contributor t

Jan 22, • 30:03

242 Extra. Transforming Lives One Home at a Time

242 Extra. Transforming Lives One Home at a Time

A brief but profoundly beautiful bonus episode with Maria Novac. Maria was a single mum with a family who had unexpectedly found herself in need of social housing, and landed in a neglected hot box. A chance encounter resulted in her becoming one of the social housing recipients whose life was transformed by Stephen King and the Australian Insulation Foundation. If you’ve come here first, tune into the main episode 242 with Stephen King: ‘The Insulation Revolution: The ‘simple’ social enterprise

Jan 20, • 4:56

242. The Insulation Revolution: Stephen King on the ‘simple’ social enterprise model that inspired a state

242. The Insulation Revolution: Stephen King on the ‘simple’ social enterprise model that inspired a state

Stephen King is the founder, CEO and Head Installer of the Australian Insulation Foundation of WA (AIFWA). While working in his insulation business, Stephen found social housing tenants were desperately in need of insulation, but had no means of getting it. So he set up a charity, added a little premium to his main service, and provided housing insulation for social housing tenants free of charge. One such resident is Maria Novac – a single mum with a family who unexpectedly found herself in nee

Jan 20, • 25:06

241. The Huge Untapped Potential of Aboriginal Tourism, with Dale Tilbrook at Maalinup Aboriginal Gallery

241. The Huge Untapped Potential of Aboriginal Tourism, with Dale Tilbrook at Maalinup Aboriginal Gallery

Dale Tilbrook is a much-loved native food specialist, educator, and passionate Aboriginal tourism advocate. Like a lot of Australia at the time of this recording, Dale was immersed in a delayed NAIDOC Week, during COVID, celebrating the history, culture and achievements of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. She also continues to work towards a big vision for First Nations people, and WA as a whole. This vision is reflected in a joint proposal (linked on the episode web page) made at

Jan 17, • 48:34

240 Extra. Rethinking Roads: Induced Demand, Urban ‘Lounges’ & Utopia

240 Extra. Rethinking Roads: Induced Demand, Urban ‘Lounges’ & Utopia

Today, a brief bonus featuring material from my conversation with Shannon Leigh that never saw the light of day, partly due to the wind that blew in, and partly due to Clean State’s mandate for shorter episodes. But it’s worth the listen, with reference to one of Australia’s much loved satirical shows on ‘nation-building’, Utopia.If you’ve come here first, tune into the main episode with Shannon Leigh, ‘World’s Best Place for Active Transport, with Streets for People co-founder Shannon Leigh’. T

Jan 13, • 3:52

240. World’s Best Place for Active Transport, with Streets for People co-founder Shannon Leigh

240. World’s Best Place for Active Transport, with Streets for People co-founder Shannon Leigh

Shannon Leigh is co-founder and Director of Streets for People, and previously an award-winning urban and transport planner at the Department of Transport and later Curtin University. Investment in active transport is one of the most livelihood-rich, climate-friendly measures available. And given cost blow-outs in public health, climate related damage, and car dominated infrastructure, it’s another vital transition more of us are after – especially in the wake of the tripling of cycling in Perth

Jan 13, • 27:00

239. Bright Sparks in Our Energy Transition: Schools, solar & social enterprise, with ClimateClever co-founder Dr Vanessa Rauland

239. Bright Sparks in Our Energy Transition: Schools, solar & social enterprise, with ClimateClever co-founder Dr Vanessa Rauland

You might recognise Dr Vanessa Rauland from the renowned ABC TV series Fight for Planet A. Vanessa’s the co-founder with Alexander Karan of ClimateClever, one of a growing number of WA social enterprises that have been realising some of the enormous opportunities in our energy transition. When I spoke with Vanessa for this podcast, a few years ago, the ClimateClever team had nearly doubled in the months prior (even during COVID-19), working with an increasing number of schools, their communities

Jan 11, • 27:28

238. Hidden Giants of Shark Bay: Seagrass Secrets, Blue Carbon & Cultural Connections with Professor Gary Kendrick

238. Hidden Giants of Shark Bay: Seagrass Secrets, Blue Carbon & Cultural Connections with Professor Gary Kendrick

Professor Gary Kendrick’s great love is the WA coastline and its seagrasses. Gary and colleagues have been at the forefront of seagrass restoration and the blue carbon movement more broadly. And with such a massive extent of coastline featuring globally significant carbon stores, world heritage sites, and deep community and cultural knowledge, the potential for WA – and beyond - is enormous. Gary takes us to one of his favourite parts of WA, to share a little of this spectacular story.This episo

Jan 9, • 25:27

237 Extra. Renewables Double Edge, Repair Revolution & First Nations Radio Renaissance

237 Extra. Renewables Double Edge, Repair Revolution & First Nations Radio Renaissance

A brief bonus featuring part of my conversation with Chantal Caruso that never saw the light of day, due to Clean State’s mandate for shorter episodes.A poignant moment occurred at the launch of The Clean State Plan, with a group of First Nations people there expressing concern at the impending renewables revolution. It raised an important question - how do we transition energy systems without repeating colonial extractive patterns? And moreover, without unwittingly hampering the regenerative wo

Jan 6, • 7:14

237. Introducing the Clean State Stories, with former Director Chantal Caruso

237. Introducing the Clean State Stories, with former Director Chantal Caruso

As introduced last week, today launches a special festive season series of the Clean State Stories. This was a series of nine episodes I produced a few years ago for the Clean State podcast, dedicated to regenerative transitions in my home state of Western Australia. Sadly, the podcast and its host non-profit are no more. But the series of episodes featured such brilliant guests and stories, that are still so very relevant, and not just to West Australians, so we resolved to re-release them here

Jan 5, • 24:58

236. Returning to Fray: Reviving Memories & Stories of Regeneration

236. Returning to Fray: Reviving Memories & Stories of Regeneration

A brief new year's greeting from Guatemala, to herald a special festive season series of short episodes. Around four years ago, some of you might remember I produced a series of nine episodes for an organisation called Clean State WA. That became the Clean State podcast, dedicated to regenerative transitions in my home state of Western Australia. Sadly, that organisation is no more, but the series of episodes produced featured such brilliant guests and stories that we resolved to find a way to k

Jan 3, • 3:56

235. The 2024 RegenNarration Soundtrack: Highlights from our guests & their places

235. The 2024 RegenNarration Soundtrack: Highlights from our guests & their places

Welcome to the customary package of highlights from another brilliant array of guests throughout 2024, accompanied by some of the music and sounds of Country heard along the way – this time across two continents, 49 episodes and 78 guests, from all walks of life. Listening to it all together in one place last night was just incredible. Hope you enjoy to it too.You’ll hear a little from me first, with a short summary of the year in review, along with a snapshot of where we are right now, some int

Dec 12, 2024 • 1:04:18

234. 2025 Australians of the Year for WA: Dianne & Ian Haggerty, Natural Intelligence Farmers

234. 2025 Australians of the Year for WA: Dianne & Ian Haggerty, Natural Intelligence Farmers

A few weeks ago I released a podcast marking the premiere of an episode of Australian Story that featured the incredible story of regeneration at the hands of the Henggeler family at Kachana Station. Many of you already know the story, from its popularity on this podcast. Well, that Australian Story has gone onto well over half a million views already. And no sooner had it gone out than I got the news that fellow legendary regenerative farmers in Western Australia, Dianne and Ian Haggerty, had b

Dec 2, 2024 • 1:09:08

233. Honouring Carol Sanford: Quit talkin’ about what doesn’t work’

233. Honouring Carol Sanford: Quit talkin’ about what doesn’t work’

On the morning of Wednesday the 27th of November, I got the news that the legendary Carol Sanford had died. You might remember the conversation I was privileged to share with her at the start of last year, for our 150th episode. Carol knew she was dying, so much was getting difficult or impossible for her, and even speaking was tough, as Motor-Neuron Disease (as we call it in Australia) was taking hold. Yet she was as sharp, generous and forthright as ever. Within minutes she was saying things t

Nov 29, 2024 • 54:53

232. Dirtroad Debrief: Chloe Maxmin on the ‘Dirtroad candidate’ successes & what comes next?

232. Dirtroad Debrief: Chloe Maxmin on the ‘Dirtroad candidate’ successes & what comes next?

This week we’re back with Chloe Maxmin, for a debrief that has been eagerly awaited – by me and many of you, I know – on how the Dirtroad candidates went at the recent US elections, and where to from here.For those who didn’t catch Chloe in episode 225 last month, from up at the farm in Maine, Chloe became the first Democrat ever to represent Maine House District 88, and the youngest member of the 129th Maine Legislature. Two years later, she’d become the youngest female state senator in Maine's

Nov 26, 2024 • 46:45

231. A Force for Mending? Reflections from the Regenerate conference & its election-week context

231. A Force for Mending? Reflections from the Regenerate conference & its election-week context

The Regenerate conference in Denver a couple of weeks ago was like no conference I’d experienced in the ‘regen ag’ / food systems space. Such a presence of next generations, women and varied cultures amongst the 500 attendees. And multiple moments of crazy serendipity. It also started the day after the US federal election. So the air was heavy with emotion and uncertainty, when Sarah Wentzel-Fisher, the ED of Quivira Coalition, the primary organising body, opened the conference in tears. It was

Nov 19, 2024 • 1:21:16

230. Chris Henggeler at Kachana Station: Marking a very special episode of Australian Story

230. Chris Henggeler at Kachana Station: Marking a very special episode of Australian Story

One of the most remarkable stories of regeneration on this podcast – still the second most listened to episode - featured in a landmark ABC TV special back home last week. One of Australia’s best journalists, Walkley-award winner Ben Cheshire, pulled together the story of Kachana Station, in the Kimberley region of northern Western Australia, for one of Australia’s most loved, influential and long-running TV series, Australian Story. Beautifully introduced by another legendary Aussie journo, Lei

Nov 12, 2024 • 1:18:44

229. Moving from Figure to Ground: With Douglas Rushkoff, ‘live in New York’

229. Moving from Figure to Ground: With Douglas Rushkoff, ‘live in New York’

When we were in New York recently, I dropped by to visit Douglas Rushkoff at his Queens College office. For those who don’t recall Douglas from his previous times on this podcast, he’s a media professor, documentary-maker, host of the Team Human podcast, and best-selling author of 20 books - including the updated edition of Program or Be Programmed, out now, with particular additions around AI. There’s a launch party for that tonight if you happen to be in or near NY. Douglas is also one of the

Nov 3, 2024 • 1:01:59

228 Extra. Q&A after the Rural Runners film screening in West Virginia

228 Extra. Q&A after the Rural Runners film screening in West Virginia

This is a bonus extra to episode 228, featuring the Q&A that took place after the film screening of Rural Runners in the Shepherdstown Opera House, West Virginia. That award-winning film is the story of Chloe Maxmin’s incredible community-based electoral wins in Maine from episode 225. By Chloe’s side every step of the way was her best mate, and then campaign manager, Canyon Woodward, with Canyon’s parallel rise as a champion ultra-distance runner woven into the story. After this screening,

Oct 31, 2024 • 31:44

228. Grassroots Transformation in Rural West Virginia: Breaking the Political Mold with Lucia Valentine & Maria Russo

228. Grassroots Transformation in Rural West Virginia: Breaking the Political Mold with Lucia Valentine & Maria Russo

“I've had several folks share with me that they are voting for Trump. But they're also voting for me.” That’s what Lucia Valentine told me when I spoke with her and another first-time candidate for the State of West Virginia at the coming elections, Maria Russo. This seemed to say so much about the coming elections here. For a start, that they’re far from as simplistic, binary and polarised as is often portrayed. And that what these women are up to is important, hopeful and possibly tr

Oct 28, 2024 • 49:52

227. Hemp is the New Buffalo: On the new Patagonia film out today, with director Joel Caldwell

227. Hemp is the New Buffalo: On the new Patagonia film out today, with director Joel Caldwell

‘The biggest strides in hemp-crete construction are going down on one of the smallest reservations in America.’ That’s how the bill reads on Patagonia Film’s latest production, The Green Buffalo, launching online globally today. It’s referring to the Lower Sioux Indian Community, on the southern bank of the Minnesota River about 100 miles SW of Minneapolis. Turns out we had driven close by after leaving Kelsey Scott’s place on the Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation in South Dakota, where we record

Oct 23, 2024 • 31:16

226 Excerpt. Protecting my Conservative Community - As a Progressive, with Bill Pluecker (& Chloe Maxmin)

226 Excerpt. Protecting my Conservative Community - As a Progressive, with Bill Pluecker (& Chloe Maxmin)

In some ways, the first 150 seconds of this excerpt from episode 226 with Bill Pluecker (alongside partner Chloe Maxmin), say everything that needs to be said about where politics is being done better in the US. They sum with the passage that became the lead-off quote in that episode. And they lead off this powerful last ten minutes or so of my conversation with Bill. Bill, an independent representative from Maine, invites us into a world where the beauty of rural landscapes and the preservation

Oct 19, 2024 • 10:54

225 Excerpt. All Roads to a Just & Equitable Future Run Through Rural America, with Chloe Maxmin

225 Excerpt. All Roads to a Just & Equitable Future Run Through Rural America, with Chloe Maxmin

The last 20 minutes or so of my conversation in episode 225 with Maine’s youngest ever female senator, Chloe Maxmin, has stayed with me since its release. And I’ve heard from a few of you saying similar. So in the interest of not letting it be too ephemeral with the passing podcast feed, this excerpt from that episode features that 20 minutes. We unpack the inspiring and transformative journey behind "Dirt Road Revival," a book that has sparked change in rural organising across the U.

Oct 17, 2024 • 25:47

226 Extra. Common Ground Country Fair: A glimpse of an extraordinary 48 years

226 Extra. Common Ground Country Fair: A glimpse of an extraordinary 48 years

After recording with Bill and Chloe at Begin Again Farm for last week’s episode, Bill happened to drop word of an upcoming festival. And not just any festival, but the 48th annual running of the Common Ground Country Fair. It happened on 20-22 September this year, in the aptly named Unity, Maine, about 40 miles north of Bill and Chloe’s place. The Fair draws 60,000 people, features all kinds of programs, food and arts, and even makes money for its host the Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Ass

Oct 15, 2024 • 5:25

226. An Independent Farmer Wins in Maine: Transcending the 'battleground', with Bill Pluecker (& Chloe Maxmin)

226. An Independent Farmer Wins in Maine: Transcending the 'battleground', with Bill Pluecker (& Chloe Maxmin)

There’s a ‘so-called’ battle for rural America at the heart of the coming federal election. But what if it needn’t be a battle? And in fact, what if heart is what’s really at stake? People who love their places – places, by the way, that constitute 20% of the vote, and 97% of the land in this country. After the recent Vice-Presidential debate here in the US, featuring two men speaking to their roots in rural America, it is still reported that people are not seeing themselves well represented in

Oct 8, 2024 • 48:29

225. Democracy on the Rise – in the US? With Maine’s youngest ever female Senator, Chloe Maxmin

225. Democracy on the Rise – in the US? With Maine’s youngest ever female Senator, Chloe Maxmin

This is one of my favourite conversations, and it starts a mini-series of sorts. I’ve had many listeners ask how things feel in this US election year. So, after months speaking with all kinds of people as we travelled through half the states of this country, throughout October, as the election approaches, I’ll offer what we’ve observed, in conversation with people doing some of the more outstanding things we’ve learned about along the way.Today, meet Chloe Maxmin. Chloe left the farm she grew up

Oct 1, 2024 • 1:12:49

224. The Mail Run: Navigating hurricanes, mail & Apple's 30% fee controversy

224. The Mail Run: Navigating hurricanes, mail & Apple's 30% fee controversy

This mid-week mail run comes to you from Savannah Georgia, as a hurricane nears the Florida coast and the storms begin here in advance of it. As usual with these brief episodes, I reply to text messages from listeners through the new link in our show notes. And this time I also announce the recent winners of the book giveaway. That’s before sharing some concerning news for independent podcast creators like me, as Apple announces a controversial 30% premium on Patreon subscriptions made through t

Sep 26, 2024 • 9:30

223. GROUNDED! Launching a Holistic Farming Festival (& a book on Milk), with Matthew Evans

223. GROUNDED! Launching a Holistic Farming Festival (& a book on Milk), with Matthew Evans

A new holistic farming festival is about to launch back home in Australia. Inspired by the famed Groundswell in the UK, GROUNDED! lands in beautiful southern Tasmania on the 4th and 5th of December - with a pre-festival event on the 3rd of December too. It’s billed as a cross between a world class conference, an informative field day and a cracking food festival. This is big news, and a huge undertaking by some great folk. So with the draft program released, it was time to chat about it with fou

Sep 24, 2024 • 40:53

222 Extra. Out on the Grasslands, with Kelsey Scott

222 Extra. Out on the Grasslands, with Kelsey Scott

After recording the main episode with Kelsey, we headed out for a very special tour through regenerating cultural and natural grasslands. We pick it up amongst the layered stories around the nearby Missouri River / Lake Oahe. That sets up a sense of the power in arriving at the family’s re-introduced Sundance grounds. Soon after, we witness Kelsey finding Indian grass back on the ranch for the first time, and achieving a long-held dream to see native grasses once again taller than she is. Found

Sep 19, 2024 • 47:29

222. Resurgent Land, Culture & Food Systems on the Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation, with Lakota Woman Kelsey Scott

222. Resurgent Land, Culture & Food Systems on the Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation, with Lakota Woman Kelsey Scott

Kelsey Scott is a 4th generation cow producer and 125th generation land steward at DX Ranch, on the Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation in South Dakota. Kelsey is a Lakota woman, citizen of the Cheyenne River Sioux tribe, Chief Strategy Officer for the Intertribal Agriculture Council, owner of a direct-to-consumer regenerative beef operation DX Beef, part of the education programs her family runs, a featured presence in the documentary film Common Ground, the first Native American student to give t

Sep 17, 2024 • 1:29:06

221. Restoring Dairy Farming with Family, Food & Festival: At Churchtown Dairy, with Judith Schwartz, Eric Vinson & Steffen Schneider

221. Restoring Dairy Farming with Family, Food & Festival: At Churchtown Dairy, with Judith Schwartz, Eric Vinson & Steffen Schneider

The extraordinary Churchtown Dairy in New York is restoring dairy farming in a context where such farms are still closing around them. They are doing it with nature, family, food and festival at its heart. With organic and biodynamic methods, they are keeping cattle together in their families to amazing benefit, cultivating myriad farm products including medicinal plants, restoring a diverse landscape, designing beautiful buildings including a store onsite, and hosting an extensive set of gather

Sep 10, 2024 • 28:25

220 Extra. Out Among the Buffalo, with Pedro Calderon-Dominguez

220 Extra. Out Among the Buffalo, with Pedro Calderon-Dominguez

The evening before we recorded the main episode with Pedro, we went out on the Plains to shepherd the buffalo to their next patch. This is a rare chance to hear one of the world’s most respected bison wranglers – and the animals themselves – at work. And there were some very special moments too, in this condensed 20-minute special extra to episode 220.The wind can be mighty on the Plains, and as we went further towards the buffalo it did push the microphone I had on me at times. But given how ra

Sep 5, 2024 • 20:15

220. The Great Buffalo Restoration on the American Prairie, with ‘world’s top bison wrangler’ Pedro Calderon-Dominguez

220. The Great Buffalo Restoration on the American Prairie, with ‘world’s top bison wrangler’ Pedro Calderon-Dominguez

Pedro Calderon-Dominguez is regarded as an extraordinary horseman. Though as fate would have it, his life took a series of unexpected turns, through wildlife ecology as the first to further Aldo’s Leopold’s work with black bears, into holistic management with some of the legends in Mexico and beyond, and ultimately into working with buffalo. Now he’s regarded by some as the world’s top bison wrangler. Pedro is currently based at an ambitious project called American Prairie, in the north of Monta

Sep 3, 2024 • 1:21:22

219. The Mail Run: From Churchtown Dairy

219. The Mail Run: From Churchtown Dairy

This week we’ve got some special news, and a mail run. That is, I reply to some of the text messages coming from you through the new link in our episode show notes. And I’m coming to you from the extraordinary Churchtown Dairy in New York, after attending an event last night at their amazing barn venue, with guest-of-honour, the globally renowned author and previous podcast guest, Judith Schwartz.This episode has chapter markers and a transcript, if you’d like to navigate the conversation that w

Aug 30, 2024 • 12:36

218. Visiting Aldo Leopold’s Shack: On the 75th anniversary of A Sand County Almanac, with Dr Katie Ross

218. Visiting Aldo Leopold’s Shack: On the 75th anniversary of A Sand County Almanac, with Dr Katie Ross

Aldo Leopold has profoundly influenced the modern conservation and regeneration movement. He affected nearly every national conservation initiative in the US during the 1930s and 40s, and this year marks the 75th anniversary of his classic book A Sand County Almanac. Hard to believe now that it was rejected many times before being finally accepted just one week before his death. Since then, the book has been translated into at least fifteen languages and sold well over two million copies. Today,

Aug 21, 2024 • 39:43

217. Imagining a Society to Match the Scenery: Cole Mannix on founding Old Salt Co-op, Festival & food system revolution

217. Imagining a Society to Match the Scenery: Cole Mannix on founding Old Salt Co-op, Festival & food system revolution

Cole Mannix was featured in the New York Times a couple of months ago as part of a series called ‘Making It Work’, about ‘small-business owners striving to endure hard times’. The title read: Montana Has More Cows Than People. Why Are Locals Eating Beef From Brazil? The by-line followed: ‘Cole Mannix, [co-founder] of Old Salt Co-op, is trying to change local appetites and upend an industry controlled by multibillion-dollar meatpackers.’ And it seems local appetites are ready for it too – with bo

Aug 13, 2024 • 1:15:39

216. Allan Savory: On holistic management, scaling & a sense of survival

216. Allan Savory: On holistic management, scaling & a sense of survival

Allan Savory is a legend of regenerative agriculture - the ongoing force behind holistic management, a movement that has featured in so many stories on the podcast. Indeed, as we’ve travelled across the US / Turtle Island, we continue to hear such stories (including in last week's episode). Longer-term listeners might remember my conversation with Allan on the podcast back in 2020. It still stands as amongst the most listened to, and my personal favourites. So as we neared Denver, Colorado,

Aug 6, 2024 • 1:16:15

215. Stories of Transformation from Next Generation Leaders: The CREATE Program's Global Impact

215. Stories of Transformation from Next Generation Leaders: The CREATE Program's Global Impact

In episode 164 with Nicole Masters and Meagan Lannan (the infamous ‘armoured butts’ episode) we talked about the new ‘train the trainers’ program in agroecological systems thinking they’d created, called CREATE. This time, we visit them at home, as they gather for the first reunion of the program. Fifteen highly accomplished alumni from incredible and varied places gathered at Meagan’s beautiful regenerative ranch. And as the few days together wrapped up, I spoke with six of these people from ac

Jul 30, 2024 • 1:10:10

214 Excerpt. One of the Great Ones: With Nina Simons & Kenny Ausubel

214 Excerpt. One of the Great Ones: With Nina Simons & Kenny Ausubel

A number of you have said last week’s episode was one of the best, with legendary Bioneers founders Nina Simons and Kenny Ausubel. So in honour of that, and in case you missed it, or haven’t heard through to the end, this week’s release is an excerpt of the last 20 minutes or so of a very rare public conversation with the two of them together. We pick it up where the conversation shifted gear, when I asked about the repeated uncanny happenings that have blessed their lives – including the magic

Jul 23, 2024 • 24:43

214. A Life's Wisdom, Transformation & Romance: With legendary Bioneers founders Nina Simons & Kenny Ausubel

214. A Life's Wisdom, Transformation & Romance: With legendary Bioneers founders Nina Simons & Kenny Ausubel

This treasured and unique conversation is with the legendary founders of Bioneers, Nina Simons and Kenny Ausubel. Bioneers is a cultural phenomenon - an innovative nonprofit organization that has been highlighting breakthrough solutions for restoring people and planet - for 34 years. What started as a somewhat reluctant conference in 1990 has become all sorts of other notable projects, including Bioneers Learning, and Bioneers radio and podcast. And there’s yet more to come.Nina and Kenny also c

Jul 17, 2024 • 1:16:31

213 Extra. Visiting Wendell Berry & A Psychedelics Resurgence Back-Story: Off-record with Andrew Stone

213 Extra. Visiting Wendell Berry & A Psychedelics Resurgence Back-Story: Off-record with Andrew Stone

Andrew Stone and I continued on for another 15 minutes off-record, but with the recorder still on. The conversation was so fascinating that I asked him if he was ok with it going out to you. So here’s a bonus 15 minutes with Andrew, where we went on to talk about his visit to Wendell Berry and their conversation on technology, some more uncanny connections, being part of the DMT studies in the ‘90s when psychedelics research restarted (and the story behind The Spirit Molecule on Netflix), and fi

Jul 11, 2024 • 15:36

213. From Tech Innovator to Mystic Farmer, with the fantastic Mr Stone

213. From Tech Innovator to Mystic Farmer, with the fantastic Mr Stone

Andrew Stone has been dubbed the ‘solar mystic farmer’, as a pioneering solar passive designer/builder, former software developer of some of the commonplace apps today working alongside luminaries like Steve Jobs, regenerative farmer with treasured links to Wendell Berry and his family, key presence in the psychedelics resurgence, and a generally fascinating guy. That was as much illustrated by the fact that when we met to record this episode, he was dressed to the nines as Robert Oppenheimer. Y

Jul 9, 2024 • 50:44

212. The Children's Hour Radio Show Becoming a Global Phenomenon, with Katie Stone & Amadeus Menendez

212. The Children's Hour Radio Show Becoming a Global Phenomenon, with Katie Stone & Amadeus Menendez

How does a local radio show run with and for children become a global phenomenon - with plenty of adult listeners too? All the more in an age of media disruption and decline, with the ongoing struggle of not only mainstream media models, but public and alternative ones too. In just six years, The Children’s Hour is approaching a listenership of one million people, heard on demand as a weekly podcast and on more than 160 stations in 6 countries. That stratospheric growth started with a pivot – wh

Jul 3, 2024 • 54:48

211. Going Slow to Go Fast: Joining Jeff Goebel in Action 'Doing the Impossible'

211. Going Slow to Go Fast: Joining Jeff Goebel in Action 'Doing the Impossible'

Our final episode last year was titled Achieving Consensus and Commitment to do the ‘Impossible’. It featured Jeff Goebel, and drew an enormous response from listeners, a number of whom have continued to work with Jeff since. So when I knew we were heading to the States, I reached out to Jeff. And soon after, he got in touch to say he was going to be hosting a workshop soon - would I like to come and be part of it? Would I what! It was one fascinating and enlightening experience. In so many ways

Jun 25, 2024 • 1:14:32

210. Spirit Farm: Listening to Navajo Diné land with James & Joyce Skeet

210. Spirit Farm: Listening to Navajo Diné land with James & Joyce Skeet

The Navajo Diné Nation is the biggest First Nation in the US, crossing Arizona, Utah and New Mexico. There we connected with Diné elder James Skeet, and his brilliant wife Joyce - descendant of award-winning Mennonite farmers in Pennsylvania. Together, they founded Spirit Farm, and the educational non-profit Covenant Pathways.Spirit Farm is a demonstration and experiential farm focused on healing the high desert southwestern soil, and the communities living there. They do this by weaving insight

Jun 17, 2024 • 1:17:12

209. Ultrawilding! Steve Mushin on blowing the lid off rewilding, joy & creativity

209. Ultrawilding! Steve Mushin on blowing the lid off rewilding, joy & creativity

Steve Mushin is an award-winning industrial designer and inventor, and an old mate from when we both were part of the team at CERES – the legendary community environment park in inner Melbourne. He’s also now the author of children’s book ‘Ultrawild: An audacious plan to rewild every city on earth’ (Allen & Unwin). Eight years in the making, it's an intricately illustrated book exploring visions for rapidly transforming cities to reverse climate change and species extinction. The book c

Jun 9, 2024 • 1:05:23

208. Bringing the Beaver Back in an Uninsurable State: With Brock Dolman, co-founder of the Occidental Arts & Ecology Centre

208. Bringing the Beaver Back in an Uninsurable State: With Brock Dolman, co-founder of the Occidental Arts & Ecology Centre

A couple of weeks ago, I received some big news. The California State Assembly unanimously passed what’s been dubbed the ‘Beaver Bill’. Yes, California is bringing the beaver back. For those who might not be fully across how big this news is, the beaver is a keystone species that assists in restoring watershed and ecosystem functions in areas that need them most. And in an era of warming, fire and desertification, and with insurers leaving the state in droves, recognition of this is growing here

Jun 4, 2024 • 1:26:42

207. Dr. Bronner's Cosmic Engagement Officer: David Bronner on an extraordinary family business & legacy

207. Dr. Bronner's Cosmic Engagement Officer: David Bronner on an extraordinary family business & legacy

I had the pleasure of sitting down with David Bronner, the Cosmic Engagement Officer of the famed Dr Bronner’s, whose life story is as rich and foamy as the company's iconic soap. Since David became CEO of the top-selling brand of natural soaps, body care and food products in 1998, the company has grown from $4 million in revenue to well over $100 million, and all while continuing to change so much about the systems and stories we live by. In recent times, they’ve co-founded Regenerative Or

May 26, 2024 • 48:21

206. A Paradigm Change in Regenerative Finance: With Esther Park, CEO of Cienaga Capital

206. A Paradigm Change in Regenerative Finance: With Esther Park, CEO of Cienaga Capital

For all the great regenerative work bubbling up everywhere right now, it seems fair to say that finance and investment in it is lagging a little. As my guest today puts it, we often hear about how farmers and land managers need to change, for example, but we hear less often about how finance and investment needs to change. It’s why a major report and project was launched online in Australia last year by Sustainable Table, ‘Regenerating Investment in Food and Farming’. I hosted a conversation at

May 20, 2024 • 1:15:18

205. Living Well As Society Transforms: With legendary writer Richard Heinberg

205. Living Well As Society Transforms: With legendary writer Richard Heinberg

Richard Heinberg is widely regarded as one of the world’s foremost advocates on the urgent need, and inviting prospects, of a transition away from fossil fuels. He’s the author of 14 books including some of the seminal works on our current energy and environmental crises. I remember reading The Party’s Over 20 years ago, and have followed Richard’s work right through to his most recent book (and excellent parallel podcast series), Power: Limits and Prospects for Human Survival – and what praise

May 14, 2024 • 1:05:47

204 Extra. World Premiere Reading from 'Carbon: The Book Of Life', by Paul Hawken

204 Extra. World Premiere Reading from 'Carbon: The Book Of Life', by Paul Hawken

This special extra to episode 204 features the last handful of minutes with the legendary best-selling author Paul Hawken. This is where the episode culminated in Paul offering a world premiere reading of the rousing finale to his upcoming book, Carbon: The Book Of Life. The reading happened to be accompanied, too, by some notable sounds from around the garden and surrounding redwoods.Head here for a transcript, also available on Apple and some other apps. (Note the transcript is AI generated an

May 9, 2024 • 8:56

204. Carbon, The Book of Life: With legendary best-seller Paul Hawken

204. Carbon, The Book of Life: With legendary best-seller Paul Hawken

Paul Hawken is the legendary author behind myriad best-sellers, including most recently Regeneration: Ending the climate crisis in one generation, and before it, Drawdown: The most comprehensive plan ever proposed to reverse global warming. Both books were accompanied by comprehensive online portals that continue to engage people from all walks, all around the world. Paul’s next book is a more personal volume – perhaps his most personal. It’s called Carbon: The book of life. And ahead of its rel

May 6, 2024 • 1:42:11

203. Democracy On The Rise, with Kate Chaney MP

203. Democracy On The Rise, with Kate Chaney MP

The community in the Australian federal seat of Curtin elected the 7th new independent MP to parliament 2 years ago now, and the first and only (to date) in WA. In those two years, that community independent, Kate Chaney, has continued to drive a level of engagement and outcomes that no one I speak to has any memory of happening before. Perhaps it happened back when the major political parties first got going, when they had some membership to speak of? Today, less than 0.5% of Australians are me

Apr 29, 2024 • 1:01:42

202. Some Big News: An Earth Day Launch

202. Some Big News: An Earth Day Launch

I’ve been promising some big news for a little while now. Well, earlier this week, on Earth Day, a special and unexpected launch took place.Head here for a transcript, also available on Apple and some other apps. (Note the transcript is AI generated and imperfect, but hopefully serves to provide greater access to these conversations for those who need or like to read.)Recorded at San Francisco Airport on 22 April 2024.Title slide: In the redwoods just outside San Francisco, where a woman passed

Apr 25, 2024 • 14:17

201. Echoes of Africa – A Journey to Our Human Heartbeat: With Lamine Sonko & Simon Edwards

201. Echoes of Africa – A Journey to Our Human Heartbeat: With Lamine Sonko & Simon Edwards

Lamine Sonko is an acclaimed composer, artistic director, performer and multi-instrumentalist continuing his family line of Guéwels. That’s a role inherited by certain members of traditional communities in Senegal who are tasked with communicating ancient storytelling and ‘songlines’ through dance, rhythms and song. And earlier this year, that converged with his role in Melbourne-based afro-beat band, the Afrobiotics, when he was joined by his five bandmates back in Senegal on a landmark tour. A

Apr 22, 2024 • 1:03:51

200. The Land Does It For You: With 'The King' David Marsh

200. The Land Does It For You: With 'The King' David Marsh

Welcome to the bicentennial episode. And who better to mark the occasion than this legend of regenerative agriculture, David Marsh. To visit Allendale Farm is like stepping into an incredible rewilding of country – as a livestock farm! David’s been here for nearly 60 years, the first half of which he ran industrialised cropping and livestock farming, which continued to devastate the land, his bank account, his family’s health, and increasingly, his conscience. The second half, he ditched the cro

Apr 15, 2024 • 1:40:20

199. Deliberative Democracy: Nicole Curato on how to transcend political impasses on climate & everything else

199. Deliberative Democracy: Nicole Curato on how to transcend political impasses on climate & everything else

This podcast has been increasingly hearing about the extraordinary outcomes that can stem from deliberative democratic processes. I still hear from listeners about past episodes with people like Jeff Goebel and Amanda Cahill. So this week, we head to the nation’s capital to speak with someone I’ve been looking forward to meeting for years. Professor Nicole Curato is with the Centre for Deliberative Democracy and Global Governance at the University of Canberra. She’s also a prominent journalist,

Apr 8, 2024 • 1:03:01

198. Where the Reed Warbler Called, with award-winning writer & new farmer Sam Vincent

198. Where the Reed Warbler Called, with award-winning writer & new farmer Sam Vincent

Sam Vincent grew up on the farm where Charles Massy famously heard the call of the reed warbler for the first time in 150 years or so. But, like most millennials in his position, he wasn’t going to stay there. Until his old man now famously put his hand in a woodchipper. That’s when Sam left his inner-city life as a writer to help out, and unexpectedly found himself thinking differently about the farm, and his old man. Sam now runs Gollion Farm, with a suite of thriving enterprises, profound new

Apr 1, 2024 • 1:06:08

197. Jim Phillipson: From Ownership to Stewardship

197. Jim Phillipson: From Ownership to Stewardship

Late last year, I arrived at a quandary. I’d been hearing about how inaccessible land ownership is for younger folk, and how investment capital is still relatively slow to come on board the incredible broad scale potential of regenerative agriculture (notwithstanding often great intent). And I’d been hearing how even long-term legends in regen ag are still expected to be saddled with enormous debt and rates of return (to say nothing of squeezed prices), while they also regenerate the majority of

Mar 25, 2024 • 1:14:29

196. Zach Bush MD: Back to the Garden

196. Zach Bush MD: Back to the Garden

Zach Bush MD has become an internationally recognised educator on the microbiome, as it relates to human health, soil health, food systems, water systems, and regenerative living as a whole. The touchstone insight of Zach’s initial transformation was that we don’t need to solve each of our many increasingly prevalent diseases – we need to regenerate the source of our health and vitality. And he’s been startled by our regenerative capacity since embarking on a film project called Farmer’s Footpri

Mar 18, 2024 • 2:19:35

195. From Quarry to Oasis: Dominique Hes on the incredible story of Newport Lakes, circular economies & beyond

195. From Quarry to Oasis: Dominique Hes on the incredible story of Newport Lakes, circular economies & beyond

Dr Dominique Hes is deeply embedded in the regenerative movement. A renowned educator, author of Designing for Hope, advisor on the Federal Circular Economy Ministerial Advisory Group, Chair of Greenfleet, and featured presence in some of Damon Gameau’s wonderful films, Dominique started working in regenerative development 20 years ago, and ‘sustainability’ for ten years before that. Her focus is on real projects, on the ground, in place. And today, we visit one of them. In her place. Newport La

Mar 10, 2024 • 1:05:54

194. The Vital Transitions in Energy Beyond Electrifying Everything: Tim Fisher on sun, surf & sympathy

194. The Vital Transitions in Energy Beyond Electrifying Everything: Tim Fisher on sun, surf & sympathy

Tim Fisher is the eldest son of the late Professor Frank Fisher. You’ve heard Frank’s name a bit on this podcast, legendary systems thinking educator in Australia – and good mate over the last dozen or so years of his life. Twice my good fortune was meeting Tim, and keeping in touch over the years. Tim is a wealth of experience, grace and salience in his own right. So, returning to Melbourne to see family for the first time in years, it seemed a good time to visit this extended family of sorts,

Mar 3, 2024 • 1:03:12

193. Regenerating Life, the Movie: How to cool the planet, feed the world & live happily ever after, with John Feldman

193. Regenerating Life, the Movie: How to cool the planet, feed the world & live happily ever after, with John Feldman

Regenerating Life is a new feature-length documentary that takes a fresh look at solving the climate crisis - and everything else. Internationally acclaimed New York filmmaker John Feldman recently premiered it in the US (where recent podcast guest Judith Schwartz featured on the panel). He’s now about to accompany its premiere in Europe. The film shifts away from the narrative that burning fossil fuels is the primary cause of the climate crisis – seeing that as just one symptom, significant as

Feb 25, 2024 • 1:00:55

192. The River Is Our Blood: Kate McBride, Zach Bush MD & Dr Pran Yoganathan at the Reconnection Festival

192. The River Is Our Blood: Kate McBride, Zach Bush MD & Dr Pran Yoganathan at the Reconnection Festival

We’re back at the Reconnection Festival for the last of three inter-related panel conversations, each building on the other. This one's on health, and features explosive revelations about a ‘Motor Neuron Disease alley’ linked to pollution and river degeneration in Australia’s Riverina agricultural district. Akin to the ‘cancer alley’ of the Mississippi River that transformed the life of our international guest, Zach Bush MD. Zach went on to found US not-for-profit Farmer’s Footprint, and ha

Feb 19, 2024 • 59:23

191. Huge Opportunity: Original Haggerty farm for sale

191. Huge Opportunity: Original Haggerty farm for sale

Welcome to the first of our mid-week specials. This is one of the experiments I want to try this year. Short grab releases featuring particular opportunities, stories or updates. There are just so many coming on, I hope this helps you to access them, and all of us to build on them. As ever, you’ll let me know what you think! First up then, a huge opportunity in the wheatbelt of WA. The Haggerty family have put their original ‘home’ property up for sale. This is where they developed the foundatio

Feb 15, 2024 • 22:10

190. A Feast of Transformation: Laura Dalrymple, Matthew Evans & Darren Doherty at the Reconnection Festival

190. A Feast of Transformation: Laura Dalrymple, Matthew Evans & Darren Doherty at the Reconnection Festival

Feast on our next conversation at the Reconnection Festival, the largest gathering of the regenerative movement in this country to date. This time, we’re talking food, for which the 800 people present were joined by a few more visionaries: Laura Dalrymple, founder of the extraordinary Feather and Bone in Sydney Matthew Evans, author, TV host & farmer at Fat Pig Farm in Tasmania, andDarren Doherty, founder of the globally renowned Regrarians out of Central Victoria. The general trajectory of

Feb 12, 2024 • 58:21

189. Cultural Reconnection: Live with Dr Amanda Cahill, Jade Miles & Isira Aunty Jinta at the Reconnection Festival

189. Cultural Reconnection: Live with Dr Amanda Cahill, Jade Miles & Isira Aunty Jinta at the Reconnection Festival

We head over to the eastern-most point of Australia this week, for the largest gathering of the regenerative movement in this country to date. Join us at the Reconnection Festival, staged by Farmer’s Footprint Australia in November last year. We sit with a panel of three visionary women, for a conversation on culture that laid a foundation for everything that followed. Two of our panellists are previous podcast guests: Dr Amanda Cahill, CEO and founder of The Next Economy, and Jade Miles, CEO of

Feb 5, 2024 • 53:30

188. The Regeneration Rhapsody: Success Stories of Soil & Spirit from the Margaret River Conference (Day 2)

188. The Regeneration Rhapsody: Success Stories of Soil & Spirit from the Margaret River Conference (Day 2)

Join us at the grand finale of the 2023 Regenerative Agriculture Conference in Margaret River WA. Following on from last week, today we’re with another all-star panel. And again, we’ve no predetermined agenda, but to reflect on what had gone before, and what might come next.Dr Judi Earl is a national treasure, having conducted the first studies describing the benefits to pasture from planned grazing. She has been a Holistic Management educator since 2002, and showcases the capacity of grazing an

Jan 29, 2024 • 49:42

187. The Regenerative Era Ignites: Tales from the 2023 Margaret River Conference (Day 1)

187. The Regenerative Era Ignites: Tales from the 2023 Margaret River Conference (Day 1)

Welcome to the new year. And welcome to a new world, where soil renews and pastures flourish, where every bite of food embodies a philosophy of renewal. The Regenerative Era blooms, and with it, a transformative approach to our landscapes and the very sustenance of life. Join us on a journey to Margaret River, where the 2023 Regenerative Agriculture Conference ignited a beacon of hope and inspiration with a turnout of passionate souls exceeding 300. This episode is your exclusive pass to the hea

Jan 22, 2024 • 1:20:26

186. 2023 RegenNarration Soundtrack: Highlights from our guests this year

186. 2023 RegenNarration Soundtrack: Highlights from our guests this year

Welcome to the customary package of highlights from another brilliant array of guests throughout 2023, accompanied by some of the music and sounds of Country heard along the way. Our guests were farmers, artists, First Nations, entrepreneurs, investors, former miners, migrants, health professionals, writers, journalists, facilitators, producers, consultants, researchers, diplomats, political economists, permaculturalists, market gardeners, chefs and more; some famous, many not, of all ages, from

Dec 20, 2023 • 45:38

185. Achieving Consensus & Commitment to do the ‘Impossible’, with Jeff Goebel

185. Achieving Consensus & Commitment to do the ‘Impossible’, with Jeff Goebel

Welcome to a very special final episode for 2023. After seven years of this podcast, covering many inspiring stories, there’s clearly no mystery as to how we go about regeneration. So why is the macro story, if you like, the big picture - extinctions, emissions, inequality, health - still going the wrong way? Is there something we’re missing, for all our regenerative efforts? Something that doesn’t just help a few of us on regenerative trajectories, but all of us? Something that changes what hap

Dec 12, 2023 • 1:29:04

184. After Former Ambassador’s Climate Hunger Strike: Gregory Andrews on its extraordinary & complex outcomes

184. After Former Ambassador’s Climate Hunger Strike: Gregory Andrews on its extraordinary & complex outcomes

D’harawal man Gregory Andrews is the Former Ambassador and first Threatened Species Commissioner of Australia who went on Climate Hunger Strike outside Australia’s federal parliament for, as he put it, my kids and country. On the 16th day, he was hospitalised. And while Gregory began his recovery, a community vigil of sorts kicked in, with people taking Gregory’s place, fasting for a day each. And that’s just a hint of some of the extraordinary insight and power sparked by Gregory’s experience -

Dec 5, 2023 • 1:10:50

183. Alessandro Pelizzon: On the EU adopting ecocide laws, & media to believe in

183. Alessandro Pelizzon: On the EU adopting ecocide laws, & media to believe in

Earlier this year, Associate Professor in Law, Alessandro Pelizzon, was on the podcast talking about some of the latest global paradigm shifting developments in our legal systems. A couple of weeks ago, there was another such development. The EU is going to criminalise severe environmental harms ‘comparable to ecocide’. And related to that, it’s also broaching post-growth economies. All part of broader shifts in deciding what we value most, and how our systems can best change to reflect that.Wit

Nov 30, 2023 • 45:10

182. My Eulogy for a Friend & Systems Thinking Legend: Celebrating the 80th birthday of Professor Frank Fisher

182. My Eulogy for a Friend & Systems Thinking Legend: Celebrating the 80th birthday of Professor Frank Fisher

Today is a special release ahead of this week’s scheduled episode. It was recorded with a full house of over 400 people in the main theatre at Federation Square in Melbourne, for the memorial service of my late great mate and mentor, and legend in systems thinking – and practice – in this country, Professor Frank Fisher. Mine was a humble opener for a few beautiful eulogies offered on the day. Today would be, or is, Frank’s 80th birthday. I’ve commemorated the occasion in recent years with episo

Nov 27, 2023 • 12:55

181. Revolutionising Perceptions, Repurposing Donkeys & Restoring Country: With Brooke Purvis, co-founder of the Last Stop Donkey Program

181. Revolutionising Perceptions, Repurposing Donkeys & Restoring Country: With Brooke Purvis, co-founder of the Last Stop Donkey Program

Brooke Purvis is a podcast listener who reached out after hearing the most recent episode with Chris Henggeler from Kachana Station last month. She wondered if she could help with the ‘donkey situation’ there. It turns out she’s co-founded something called the Last Stop Donkey Program, out of Singleton in the Hunter Valley of NSW.Brooke and husband Heath say they saw many people looking to purchase donkeys in an attempt to combat growing stock losses from dingo attacks, as donkeys are renowned f

Nov 21, 2023 • 45:29

161 Excerpt. We Can Create a New Normal: Live panel launch for Regenerating Investment in Food & Farming

161 Excerpt. We Can Create a New Normal: Live panel launch for Regenerating Investment in Food & Farming

This is an excerpt of one of the most pivotal conversations on the podcast this year. So many conversations since, and attempts to navigate the paradigm change talked about here, have come back to this launch event, and the stories expressed in it. Having just returned from the Re:Connection Festival in the northern rivers, and a little tour around it, I’ll have more out on the podcast soon about some of this trailblazing work going on.This conversation marked the launch of a major report and pr

Nov 16, 2023 • 43:15

180. We're Very Close to a Tipping Point: Rachel Ward & Jade Miles, live in Margaret River

180. We're Very Close to a Tipping Point: Rachel Ward & Jade Miles, live in Margaret River

Rachel Ward is a famed actress, film-maker and now farmer. Jade Miles is the CEO of Sustainable Table, author of Futuresteading, and steward of the incredible Black Barn Farm. We shared this conversation with a live audience after a screening of Rachel’s brilliant documentary, Rachel’s Farm. It was a curtain raiser to the Regenerative Agriculture Conference in Margaret River WA, and the penultimate event of Rachel’s film tour of 30 or so locations around the country. That lent a certain perspect

Nov 7, 2023 • 48:31

170 Excerpt. Don’t Ask People to Pick a Side, with Tim Hollo

170 Excerpt. Don’t Ask People to Pick a Side, with Tim Hollo

It’s all go here now for the upcoming RE:CONNECTION Festival. But there are other reasons for this excerpt today. So many of my conversations these days, including after the Voice Referendum here in Australia, for example, come back to this part of episode 170 with Tim Hollo, author of ‘Living Democracy: An ecological manifesto for the end of the world as we know it’. And particularly the part where he said: “And I asked Amanda if there was a secret ingredient that sits behind it [the incredible

Nov 1, 2023 • 29:35

179. Coming to a Head in the Kimberley (Part 2): Chris Henggeler on the donkey situation, wildlife management & microbiome mysteries

179. Coming to a Head in the Kimberley (Part 2): Chris Henggeler on the donkey situation, wildlife management & microbiome mysteries

Welcome to part two of Coming to a Head in the Kimberley, featuring one of the great stories of regeneration, and one of the most spectacular regions in the world, at a time when both are acutely on the line. Join us back at Kachana Station in the East Kimberley, with award-winning regenerative pastoralist Chris Henggeler. We pick up the conversation from part one here, on the latest with the donkey situation. Since we last visited Kachana, the state department that ordered the donkeys at Kachan

Oct 24, 2023 • 49:51

179. Coming to a Head in the Kimberley: Chris Henggeler on regenerating consciousness, community & Country

179. Coming to a Head in the Kimberley: Chris Henggeler on regenerating consciousness, community & Country

Chris Henggeler and his family manage Kachana Station in the East Kimberley, only accessible by foot or air. They took responsibility for this desertified and abandoned country, and have achieved some incredible regeneration, culminating last year in a State Soil Health Champion award. Yet with still vast lands desertifying around them, and so much opportunity to build on models like Kachana, we recorded an episode out there two years ago titled Wanted Land Doctors. Now the second most popular e

Oct 18, 2023 • 1:06:35

178. Navigating the Emotional Echoes of the Referendum: Heidi Mippy, on the Voice to Parliament & beyond

178. Navigating the Emotional Echoes of the Referendum: Heidi Mippy, on the Voice to Parliament & beyond

Heidi Mippy is a Noongar and Thiin-Mah Warriyangka woman, and a pioneer in Aboriginal education support and community development. For over 25 years, Heidi’s been leading and sharing in many brilliant success stories, with renowned integrity, smarts and spirit. Here, Heidi joins Anthony in the lead up to Australia’s national referendum on an Aboriginal Voice to Parliament this weekend, with no predetermined agenda, clear cut positions, or knowledge of what each other was thinking, going in. We h

Oct 10, 2023 • 56:01

177. Bunuba Elder Jimmy Dillon Andrews, on Jandamarra, spiritual power & building cultural enterprise

177. Bunuba Elder Jimmy Dillon Andrews, on Jandamarra, spiritual power & building cultural enterprise

Welcome back to Fitzroy Crossing. Jimmy Dillon Andrews is a highly respected Bunuba elder and founder of Bungoolee Tours, nationally renowned for the cultural experiences it guides people through. These include journeys deep beneath the limestone of the Napier Range into Tunnel Creek, and through the heart of the incredible Windjana Gorge, carved from a 35O million year old Devonian Reef. The spiritual significance of these places to the Bunuba people is immense, having tended all this for at le

Oct 4, 2023 • 56:05

176. The Water has Passed but the Earth has Shifted: Natalie Davey on listening to Country

176. The Water has Passed but the Earth has Shifted: Natalie Davey on listening to Country

Welcome to a very special episode, months in the making. Natalie Davey was last on the podcast nearly 2 years ago. It’s still the sixth most popular episode. Natalie is a community leader from Fitzroy Crossing, with Bunuba-Walmajarri, English and Scottish heritage. She’s a Traditional Custodian of the magnificent Martuwarra Fitzroy River. She’s also a broadcaster with the local Wangki radio, an artist, educator, and former ranger. She was the first Indigenous Chair, too, of highly respected not-

Sep 27, 2023 • 1:24:54

156 Excerpt. Daniel Christian Wahl: ‘It’s the change of being that ultimately makes a difference’

156 Excerpt. Daniel Christian Wahl: ‘It’s the change of being that ultimately makes a difference’

A very special episode from flood-ravaged Fitzroy Crossing, with Traditional Custodian of the Martuwarra Fitzroy River, Natalie Davey, has been weeks in the making and is almost finished. Stay tuned for that next week!Today is an excerpt of episode 156 featuring the last 25 minutes or so with globally renowned writer, educator and consultant, Daniel Christian Wahl, at a very sensitive time in his life. Our conversation was ostensibly winding up, but some deep personal reflections on life, langua

Sep 20, 2023 • 30:11

150 Excerpt. Carol Sanford, as No More Gold Stars comes out (& brief update)

150 Excerpt. Carol Sanford, as No More Gold Stars comes out (& brief update)

What a week at the regenerative agriculture conference in Margaret River. Fair to say we’re still buzzing, and recovering. More on that later. Normal podcasting will resume next week, but this week has actually been lined up for a while – in anticipation of that recovery, and the release of a very special book. Carol Sanford’s new – and sadly last – book is out this week. It’s called No More Gold Stars: Regenerating Capacity to Think for Ourselves. You might remember her talking about it back at

Sep 12, 2023 • 23:59

169 Excerpt. Matilda Brown & Scott Gooding on the Power of Food in Healing, Business & Regeneration

169 Excerpt. Matilda Brown & Scott Gooding on the Power of Food in Healing, Business & Regeneration

We’ve landed in Margaret River, ahead of its major regenerative agriculture conference, with a live Q&A screening of Rachel’s Farm raising the curtain tonight. Anthony will be hosting director Rachel Ward, in conversation with another previous guest on the podcast, Jade Miles. In the film, Rachel raises the rest of the picture of regeneration – regenerating supply chains. And this is where her daughter Matilda (featuring profoundly in the film also), and her partner Scott Gooding, have taken

Sep 5, 2023 • 28:47

167 Excerpt. Next Generation Farming: North Arm Farms' Seven-Way Cooperative, Community Ties & Organic Decertification

167 Excerpt. Next Generation Farming: North Arm Farms' Seven-Way Cooperative, Community Ties & Organic Decertification

We’re now heading south from the Kimberley towards Margaret River for the regenerative agriculture conference next week. One brilliant couple who’ll be there, and who appear in the film Rachel’s Farm being shown on the eve of the conference, is Kaycee Simuong and Tom Macindoe. This is an excerpt of episode 167 featuring the last 25 minutes or so of our conversation, recorded after visiting Rachel, up the Valley at their 400 acre farm of forest and grassland regeneration, with extraordinary marke

Aug 28, 2023 • 28:47

168 Excerpt. At Rachel’s Farm, with Rachel Ward & Mick Green

168 Excerpt. At Rachel’s Farm, with Rachel Ward & Mick Green

We’re back at Kachana Station this week, the site of the second most listened to episode on this podcast. And we've just recorded an update from here that will be out soon. But as recent guest Rachel Ward makes her way around the country, screening her new film and speaking with communities, news has arrived she’ll be doing likewise ahead of the major regenerative agriculture conference in Margaret River WA in a couple of weeks now. Episode 168 featured two chapters in effect – the first wa

Aug 23, 2023 • 53:42

154 Excerpt. Rosemary Morrow on Incorporating Global Wisdom into Modern Permaculture for Systemic Change

154 Excerpt. Rosemary Morrow on Incorporating Global Wisdom into Modern Permaculture for Systemic Change

We’ve been recording in Fitzroy Crossing this week, and reflecting on the blessing of hearing from a number of elders here in the Kimberley. This includes one of the recordings from Fitzroy which will be out soon. And today, as we prepare to leave this permaculture paradise of recent guest, Wendy Albert, and head back to Kachana Station, it brought to mind another permaculture legend who cut her teeth here in the Kimberley – as a 15 year old jillaroo back in the ‘50s.This is an excerpt of episod

Aug 14, 2023 • 28:08

152 Excerpt. It’s Re-Connection: Zach Bush, Ella Noah Bancroft & Tanya Massy, live in Byron Bay

152 Excerpt. It’s Re-Connection: Zach Bush, Ella Noah Bancroft & Tanya Massy, live in Byron Bay

There was some big news last week. The Farmer’s Footprint Australia team announced they’ll be staging a major festival in November. It will feature the return to these shores of Zach Bush, with Charles Eisenstein beaming in online, alongside a host of brilliant Australian speakers and artists. To get us in the mood, keep the connections alive from last year’s tour, and just in case you missed it, here’s an excerpt of the last 25 minutes or so of the panel conversation that brought the house down

Aug 7, 2023 • 27:54

175. Doing the Impossible: Judith Schwartz on transcending our impasses to heal the earth & each other

175. Doing the Impossible: Judith Schwartz on transcending our impasses to heal the earth & each other

Ten years ago now, award-winning writer and journalist, Judith Schwartz wrote the book ‘Cows Save the Planet: and Other Improbable Ways of Restoring Soil to Heal the Earth'. Then came 'Water In Plain Sight: Hope for a Thirsty World'. And then, a few years ago, in an extraordinary global tour of earth repair, came 'The Reindeer Chronicles: and Other Inspiring Stories of Working With Nature to Heal the Earth'. That award-winning book featured stories from Norway, Spain, Ha

Aug 1, 2023 • 1:22:44

174. The Ambassador: Wendy Albert’s permaculture paradise, systemic regeneration & legendary Kimberley life

174. The Ambassador: Wendy Albert’s permaculture paradise, systemic regeneration & legendary Kimberley life

Join us on an insightful journey with Kimberley legend Wendy Albert, a woman who's lived an extraordinary life, challenging the status quo and advocating for sustainable living. From her early years growing up on a farm, to joining Mother Teresa's sisterhood, Wendy's experiences have shaped her into a fierce advocate for food security and sustainable agriculture in the Kimberley region of Western Australia, and beyond.Wendy is the owner/manager of Kimberley Cottages, and Windjana

Jul 25, 2023 • 1:26:21

173. Manchán Magan on Language & Land, from Ireland to the Kimberley

173. Manchán Magan on Language & Land, from Ireland to the Kimberley

Welcome to a new series of episodes from the Kimberley, in far north Western Australia. First up, prepare for a transformative journey as we're joined by Manchán Magan, the acclaimed Irish travel writer, documentary maker, radio producer, theatre performer, builder of the first straw-bale house in Ireland, regenerator of the 10 acre block it stands on, and best-selling author. Manchán’s books include ‘32 Words for Field: Lost words of the Irish landscape’, which is said to have begun as a

Jul 19, 2023 • 1:25:24

172 Extra. Come Work in Roebourne: Some candid off the record yarning & an invitation

172 Extra. Come Work in Roebourne: Some candid off the record yarning & an invitation

After we finished this week's conversation with our distinguished guest, Indigenous artist and community leader, Patrick Churnside, some off-the-record yarning was also recorded. We decided to release it as a bonus 10 minute extra, given its rich and candid exchanges, which also culminated in an invitation to Roebourne. As it happens, it comes at a time  when there is a wonderful position going at the Digital Lab (see the PDF file below if you're interested).Head here for automatic cue

Jul 15, 2023 • 9:23

172. Songs for Freedom: Patrick Churnside on new album, national tour & changing our stories

172. Songs for Freedom: Patrick Churnside on new album, national tour & changing our stories

The north-west shelf of Western Australia is said to be where the Songlines of this continent began. No surprise then, that the people here would be showcasing and reconnecting their convergent and resurgent cultures in spectacular ways – via the media, projects and enterprises we talked about in the previous episode - and with the Songs for Freedom project. Join us back in Roebourne / Ieramugadu with Patrick Churnside, a Traditional Custodian from the Ngarluma and Yindjibarndi language groups,

Jul 12, 2023 • 57:49

171. Ngaarda Media: Tangiora Hinaki on trailblazing media, resurgent cultures, & the latest on Murujuga, Title Fight & Voice

171. Ngaarda Media: Tangiora Hinaki on trailblazing media, resurgent cultures, & the latest on Murujuga, Title Fight & Voice

Roebourne / Ieramugadu is a small town in the Pilbara region of WA, and it’s at the heart of an extraordinary resurgence of ancient cultures that still flies largely under the radar, and in the face of ongoing threats. Part of that resurgence, and covering it, is Ngaarda Media, an independent community broadcaster and media training hub, representing and empowering the Aboriginal people (ngaarda) of the Pilbara. And heading up the organisation is Tangiora Hinaki.Tangiora is a Māori woman who ven

Jul 6, 2023 • 1:01:38

170. Changing What’s Possible: Tim Hollo on stories of living democracy & the power of community

170. Changing What’s Possible: Tim Hollo on stories of living democracy & the power of community

Prepare to be moved and enlightened as we explore the transformative power of community and deliberative democracy with today's special guest, Tim Hollo. Tim is so thoroughly recasting our notions of what’s possible, through stories of what’s actually happening right now, across a host of different contexts, and with countless possibilities to go on with, that are successfully creating the democratic systems and cultures we need for widespread regeneration. Tim Hollo is Executive Director o

Jun 29, 2023 • 1:26:13

169. Feeding Change: Matilda Brown & Scott Gooding's Nutrition-Led Journey to The Good Farm Shop

169. Feeding Change: Matilda Brown & Scott Gooding's Nutrition-Led Journey to The Good Farm Shop

Can regenerative farming and a focus on nutrition truly transform our lives? Join us in this heart-warming conversation with Matilda Brown, daughter of renowned actors Bryan Brown and Rachel Ward, and Scott Gooding, 'celebrity chef' and author of The Sustainable Diet. Together, they share their unexpected journey into the world of regenerative farming, their thoughts on food sovereignty, and how their combined passion for cooking, creativity, and healthy, sustainable living, led to the

Jun 22, 2023 • 1:23:18

168. From Movie Sets to Regenerative Farms: Rachel Ward & Mick Green on new film & new life at Rachel's Farm

168. From Movie Sets to Regenerative Farms: Rachel Ward & Mick Green on new film & new life at Rachel's Farm

Imagine transforming a cattle farm and family retreat into a carbon-sequestering biodiversity haven. What would it take? And how and why would you do it if you're a famed actress and filmmaker? Join us for an inspiring conversation with Rachel Ward, who embarked on this journey alongside former industrialised farmer and coal miner Mick Green. Their story is now the first Australian feature film on regenerative agriculture, and Rachel's first documentary. 'Rachel's Farm'

Jun 19, 2023 • 1:41:37

167. Farm Like the World Depends On It, with Kaycee Simuong & Tom Macindoe

167. Farm Like the World Depends On It, with Kaycee Simuong & Tom Macindoe

What if you could regenerate farmland and create a sustainable farming lifestyle while also building a strong community? Join Anthony as he visits Tom and Kaycee, an innovative young farming couple from the Nambucca Valley on Gumbaynggirr Country in NSW, who are doing just that. They share their remarkable journey of stewarding 400 acres of forest and grassland into a thriving regenerative farm, and founding the North Arm Farms Co-op - a unique enterprise model that sends 100% of what we spend o

Jun 14, 2023 • 1:16:09

166. Australia’s ‘Wolves of Yellowstone’? With David Pollock & Zali Jestrimski at Wooleen Station

166. Australia’s ‘Wolves of Yellowstone’? With David Pollock & Zali Jestrimski at Wooleen Station

Uncannily our first visit to Wooleen Station in three years lands after Wooleen and Yellowstone were both spoken about in last week’s episode with Montanan stars, Nicole Masters and Meagan Lannan. And when it comes to shifting the sense of what’s possible, this 375,000 acre property 700 kilometres from Perth WA is taking this to new levels, as the regeneration of country, community and culture continues to generate its own momentum.  A number of long-held visions are currently coming to fruition

Jun 8, 2023 • 1:07:13

165. Voices of the Wayfinders: Leaving the Nicole Masters intensive in Orange

165. Voices of the Wayfinders: Leaving the Nicole Masters intensive in Orange

You don’t need to have heard last week’s episode with Nicole Masters and Meagan Lannan to listen to this one, but they certainly go together. After I was fortunate to have been welcomed in to Nicole’s intensive 4-day course near Orange in Australia last month, I was moved to conduct a kind of exit poll with a half dozen people. It wasn’t planned, so I just pulled out the lapel mic’s I always have with me for such occasions, plugged them into the phone, contemplated dealing with some breeze and d

Jun 1, 2023 • 34:56

164. Nicole Masters & Meagan Lannan on Training the Wayfinders

164. Nicole Masters & Meagan Lannan on Training the Wayfinders

Nicole Masters is a globally recognised agroecologist, speaker and author of the book ‘For the Love of Soil’. Meagan Lannan is an award-winning rancher at Barney Creek Livestock in Montana, within the Greater Yellowstone ecosystem. Nicole and Meagan toured two sold out education programs in Australia last month. First up, 126 people convened for 4 days near the town of Orange, and I was fortunate to be welcomed along for the ride. It was actually Nicole’s first time back in Australia since her s

May 28, 2023 • 1:09:55

163. Regenerating a Region: Jeff Pow on how a regenerative, cruelty-free food system thrives or folds

163. Regenerating a Region: Jeff Pow on how a regenerative, cruelty-free food system thrives or folds

Jeff Pow is at the helm of an extraordinary story of regeneration. You might remember Jeff and his wife Michelle McManus from episode 78, when I first visited them at Southampton Homestead back at the end of 2020. (They were also later highlighted among some globally esteemed names in the acknowledgements of Paul Hawken’s book Regeneration.) Since then, I’d been seeing the land there go from strength to strength. And I’d been hearing about how their pasture-raised poultry (as distinct from so-ca

May 15, 2023 • 53:48

162. Tim Winton on Ningaloo Nyinggulu: An epic film series & tour

162. Tim Winton on Ningaloo Nyinggulu: An epic film series & tour

This is a special release episode with Tim Winton, broadly considered the preeminent Australian writer of his generation. And not just in Australia. His books have been translated into 28 languages, sold millions of copies, and resulted in numerous prestigious awards (including another one just this week). He’s also in the Australian Surfing Awards Hall of Fame, and has a species of native Australian fish named in his honour. But over the last few years, we were aware Tim had jumped in the deep

May 11, 2023 • 48:15

161. Regenerating Investment in Food & Farming: Live launch of a paradigm changing report & project

161. Regenerating Investment in Food & Farming: Live launch of a paradigm changing report & project

In last week’s episode, we heard from Dr Katherine Trebeck on the latest significant developments in the domain of wellbeing, regenerative or just plain good economics. You might remember Katherine alluded to a brilliant conversation she had been part of a few days prior, for the launch of a major new report and project by not-for-profit outfit, Sustainable Table. Regenerative farmer and award-winning writer, Tanya Massy, is the lead author of that report, part of an all-star team frankly, inclu

May 8, 2023 • 1:33:59

160. Beyond Profit, Financial Returns & GDP, with Dr Katherine Trebeck

160. Beyond Profit, Financial Returns & GDP, with Dr Katherine Trebeck

Dr Katherine Trebeck helps make sense of the state of our economy, amidst recurrent gloomy global forecasts, and stark reports about what’s really driving such drastic inflation and inequality. All that informs the back half of our chat on some recent significant global shifts towards economies that make more sense here and now, and that are inherently designed to work well for people and planet.This includes an opportunity to get involved here in Australia, with our federal government’s current

May 1, 2023 • 43:08

159 Excerpt. Latest on Rights of Nature & Pope's Paradigm Change

159 Excerpt. Latest on Rights of Nature & Pope's Paradigm Change

Last week's episode with Dr Alessandro Pelizzon contained a series of global paradigm shifting updates in its last 15 minutes or so. So this week's release is an excerpt of that part of the episode, in case you missed it. We pick up our conversation at the back half of Alessandro's announcement that he is co-founding a new place of education – akin to the Schumacher College in the UK - offering more of the education we need in these times. And we go on to the rapid developments ar

Apr 17, 2023 • 19:55

159. Alessandro Pelizzon, on the collapse & renewal of universities, the education we need, & the latest on Rights of Nature

159. Alessandro Pelizzon, on the collapse & renewal of universities, the education we need, & the latest on Rights of Nature

I met up with Dr Alessandro Pelizzon at his place in Byron Bay, for a long-awaited chat on some of the extraordinary work he’s been doing, outside his day job, on the immense value, almost unbelievable collapse, and opportunity for renewal of the public university as one of our oldest and grandest Western institutions. And there’s been a host of global paradigm shifting developments since we last spoke 18 months or so ago, in the domain of his day job (including just days ago with the Pope’s res

Apr 9, 2023 • 1:04:20

158. Loop Growers: Alice Star & Phil Garozzo on changing paradigms where we gather

158. Loop Growers: Alice Star & Phil Garozzo on changing paradigms where we gather

I headed out of Brisbane this week to Camp Mountain, to learn about some of the regenerative work being done around there. One of the outstanding places I visited nearby was where Loop Growers happens. Alice Star and Phil Garozzo, hairdresser and marketing graduate respectively, are its founders. They call it a ‘bio-intensive market garden’, which produces a wide range of chemical free fruit and veg that feeds their growing community of households and local businesses. The loop they refer to com

Apr 3, 2023 • 1:10:24

157. Regenerating Country, live with Jacob Birch & Zena Cumpston

157. Regenerating Country, live with Jacob Birch & Zena Cumpston

Yesterday I hosted a yarn with two brilliant First Nations guests at the World Science Festival in Brisbane, to discuss 'the rise of regenerative agriculture, the intersection with First Nations Knowledges, and the synergies for a harmonious and sustainable future on earth'.Barkandji woman Zena Cumpston (aka Zena Sky Ranger) is a writer, researcher and story-teller who has also curated some exceptional exhibitions including Emu Sky. She is passionate about plants, particularly the many

Mar 27, 2023 • 58:35

156. Daniel Christian Wahl on living technologies & cultures

156. Daniel Christian Wahl on living technologies & cultures

Daniel Christian Wahl is the world-renowned author of Designing Regenerative Cultures, still being translated into various languages years after release. Daniel’s also called himself a consultant, educator, activist, speaker, blogger, weaver, catalyst - he’s also become a farmer of sorts, which you’ll hear more about today, along with some other very interesting and entirely relevant parts of his life – like marine biology, martial arts, permaculture, his ongoing learning with elders, and how he

Mar 20, 2023 • 1:30:51

155. A Shifting Level of Engagement: Zac Webb, Amy Steel & Damon Gameau live in Margaret River

155. A Shifting Level of Engagement: Zac Webb, Amy Steel & Damon Gameau live in Margaret River

Mid-last year I accompanied film-maker Damon Gameau as he toured his film Regenerating Australia around WA. We were with Di Haggerty and Heidi Mippy which became ep122 from the Leederville screening, and in ep131 I hosted student Kate Fenech in Busselton. Well, there were two other event conversations on that tour that Damon hosted with other local guests, and they were exceptional. And as I listened back to the one from Margaret River this week, I thought this has just got to go out.So conversi

Mar 13, 2023 • 48:06

154. We’re the Species Who Could Do It: Rosemary Morrow on becoming the restoration species

154. We’re the Species Who Could Do It: Rosemary Morrow on becoming the restoration species

For over 40 years, Rosemary Morrow has travelled the world, blazing a pioneering trail teaching permaculture as a tool for restoration. From Vietnam and Cambodia, to Greece, West Africa, and Australia, her at times death-defying journey has helped countless communities in all sorts of situations restore healthy living systems. And it was arguably all set in tow when, at the age of 15, she ventured solo to the Kimberley here in WA. This is a conversation Rowe’s not accustomed to having, but she w

Mar 6, 2023 • 1:13:37

153. Changing the Story, with student Neeve Blackham-Jennings, Mandy Bamford & Nicki Mitchell

153. Changing the Story, with student Neeve Blackham-Jennings, Mandy Bamford & Nicki Mitchell

Neeve Blackham-Jennings is a school student who wrote and illustrated what ‘accidentally’ became an award-winning book when she was fifteen. It’s a story that hoped to change a story – the story of Australia’s most endangered reptile, the Western Swamp Tortoise. But that’s not the half of it.Last September’s Quantum Words Festival in Perth opened with Schools Day. I was fortunate to host Bruce Pascoe later in the day, which you may have heard on episode 140. But opening the festival was this ses

Feb 27, 2023 • 40:10

152. Pathways to Regeneration Live, with Zach Bush, Ella Noah Bancroft & Tanya Massy

152. Pathways to Regeneration Live, with Zach Bush, Ella Noah Bancroft & Tanya Massy

Zach Bush toured in Australia in December last year. This event, in Byron Bay, sold out in a matter of hours. So a humming full house of 250+ people filled the local theatre for Zach’s rousing keynote, and this subsequent panel conversation. The two women joining Zach and myself for this were Bundjalung woman and founder of The Returning, Ella Noah Bancroft, and regenerative farmer and award-winning writer, Tanya Massy. You’ll hear me introduce Ella and Tanya in a bit more detail on the night. A

Feb 20, 2023 • 55:19

151. Regenerating Australia live in Beverley, with Damon Gameau, Di & Ian Haggerty, Oral McGuire & Grant Revell

151. Regenerating Australia live in Beverley, with Damon Gameau, Di & Ian Haggerty, Oral McGuire & Grant Revell

Over the last couple of years Damon Gameau, the brilliant Aussie film-maker behind Regenerating Australia, 2040, That Sugar Film and Animal Beatbox, has joined me at this time to take a look at the year ahead. Last year happened to land on Valentine’s Day. So while Damon’s giving himself and his family some well-earned dedicated time right now, it gives me the chance to share this unique event with you. This was a Town Hall dialogue that followed a community screening of Regenerating Australia,

Feb 13, 2023 • 1:05:18

150. A Regenerative Life: Carol Sanford on living, dying & changing paradigms

150. A Regenerative Life: Carol Sanford on living, dying & changing paradigms

Starting the year with Carol Sanford feels incredibly special. She’s been at the heart of what we might call the ‘regenerative paradigm’ for decades. Friends and colleagues have spoken about her with me for years, right up until the end of last year. And last month, a previous guest and author of Sand Talk, Tyson Yunkaporta, featured Carol on his podcast. That’s when I learned the sad news that she has only a few months to live. When I wrote to her expressing my care and respect, and to see if s

Feb 6, 2023 • 53:20

150. A Regenerative Life: Carol Sanford on living, dying & changing paradigms

150. A Regenerative Life: Carol Sanford on living, dying & changing paradigms

Starting the year with Carol Sanford feels incredibly special. She’s been at the heart of what we might call the ‘regenerative paradigm’ for decades. Friends and colleagues have spoken about her with me for years, right up until the end of last year. And last month, a previous guest and author of Sand Talk, Tyson Yunkaporta, featured Carol on his podcast. That’s when I learned the sad news that she may only have a few months to live. When I wrote to her expressing my care and respect, and to see

Feb 6, 2023 • 53:20

149. Summer Flashbacks (episodes that people still talk about): Frances Pollock on Regenerating Land & Food Systems

149. Summer Flashbacks (episodes that people still talk about): Frances Pollock on Regenerating Land & Food Systems

Our last summer flashback ‘episode that people still talk to me about’ is episode 9, with Frances Pollock (nee Jones). Frances and David Pollock became nationally famous about a decade ago now, for ‘destocking’ the 375,000-acre Wooleen Station in the Murchison region of Western Australia. That was step one in what has become an extraordinary story of regeneration, increasingly reverberating far beyond Wooleen. David’s since been on the podcast a few times, and Frances continues to be recognised

Jan 30, 2023 • 27:59

148. Summer Flashbacks (episodes that people still talk about): Doughnut Economics, with Kate Raworth

148. Summer Flashbacks (episodes that people still talk about): Doughnut Economics, with Kate Raworth

Our next episode from the archives that people still talk to me about is episode 3, with Kate Raworth. She’s the best-selling author of Doughnut Economics: Seven ways to think like a 21st century economist. And the instigator of the Doughnut Economics Action Lab (DEAL), helping put it into practice in communities everywhere. This is an excerpt of the first 20 minutes or so our conversation just a couple of months after the book came out. And this release comes just a week after the launch in Oxf

Jan 23, 2023 • 22:56

147. Summer Flashbacks (episodes that people still talk about): Regenerative Economics, with John Fullerton

147. Summer Flashbacks (episodes that people still talk about): Regenerative Economics, with John Fullerton

A warm welcome to the new year. We’ll resume normal transmission of the podcast in February. But to gear us up, I thought to release a summer flashback or two, delving way back in the archives to episodes that people still speak to me about today. First up is an excerpt from the very first episode I recorded, with John Fullerton. He’s the former Wall Street executive who left that life, and through a fascinating personal journey ended up founding the non-profit Capital Institute, dedicated to br

Jan 16, 2023 • 35:22

146. The RegenNarration Soundtrack 2022: Highlights from our guests this year

146. The RegenNarration Soundtrack 2022: Highlights from our guests this year

This is our customary sign-off episode for the year – a package of highlights from our brilliant array of guests throughout 2022, accompanied by some of the music and sounds of Country you heard along the way. Here's the ‘track list’: 1. Jess Beckerling (ep 105)2. To A Forests Dream, by Cloudjumper (from the Free Music Archive) – intro3. To The System, by The Public Opinion Afro Orchestra, then ...4. Flamenco Rhythm, by Sunsearcher (from the Free Music Archive) – Petrine McCrohan (ep 106)5.

Dec 19, 2022 • 1:19:01

145 Extra. Paul Hawken on an upcoming global launch & the US mid-terms

145 Extra. Paul Hawken on an upcoming global launch & the US mid-terms

This is a short tribute episode marking the 10th anniversary of the passing of my old mate and mentor, Professor Frank Fisher. He’d be 79 today. The honours list of guests on these anniversary editions now includes Hazel Henderson, Allan Savory and Charlie Massy. This year, it’s Paul Hawken, the multiple best-selling author of Regeneration: Ending the climate crisis in one generation. This is the rest of the conversation Paul and I shared last week – featuring some fun personal exchanges, and ev

Nov 28, 2022 • 30:24

145. Paul Hawken on Regeneration - A Year On

145. Paul Hawken on Regeneration - A Year On

Paul Hawken won’t need an introduction for many of you. But for those unfamiliar, Paul is a multiple best-selling author, entrepreneur, and advisor to heads of state and CEOs on climatic, economic and ecological regeneration. Paul and I last spoke for the podcast a bit over a year ago, on release of his latest best-selling book, Regeneration: Ending the climate crisis in one generation. That’s now the most listened to episode on this podcast. It also marked the launch of Project Regeneration, wh

Nov 21, 2022 • 1:16:25

144. Karen O’Brien on Quantum Social Change & Mattering More Than We Think

144. Karen O’Brien on Quantum Social Change & Mattering More Than We Think

Professor Karen O’Brien is a globally renowned thought leader on climate change impacts and social transformation. She has been heavily involved in the work of the IPCC, and shared in its 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. She’s also been on the scientific advisory board for Project Drawdown, and is the co-founder of cCHANGE, an Oslo-based company that has become a beacon in the space of social transformation. And a few months ago, cCHANGE launched Karen’s new book, called You Matter More Than You Think: Q

Nov 14, 2022 • 59:43

143. Visited by the Rainbow Serpent, with Heidi Mippy, the Haggerty's, Jane Slattery & Nakala Maddock

143. Visited by the Rainbow Serpent, with Heidi Mippy, the Haggerty's, Jane Slattery & Nakala Maddock

This week’s episode is something extraordinary. Last week featured a conversation with Di and Ian Haggerty, in a shearing shed filled by 170 people from right around the country. You might remember it ended with Di’s passing reference to some amazing insight that Noongar woman Heidi Mippy had shared. Heidi is an author, senior staffer with the Noongar Land Enterprise Group, and so much more. She had been personally invited to this event by Di, in anticipation of further growing the relationships

Nov 6, 2022 • 35:30

142. Di & Ian Haggerty on Tapping into Natural Intelligence, with live audience on the farm

142. Di & Ian Haggerty on Tapping into Natural Intelligence, with live audience on the farm

Longer term listeners to this podcast will feel increasingly familiar with Ian and Di Haggerty, creators of what Charles Massy has called their world breakthrough regenerative farming operation. But you won’t quite have heard them like this. Just last Monday, a capacity audience of 170 people from every state in Australia (and even a few continents) flocked to the shearing shed on one of the Haggerty farms in the WA wheatbelt, for a special day out. Years in the making, this was to be an explora

Oct 31, 2022 • 48:04

141. On Fire! With Greg Mullins AO, Oral McGuire & Professor Lesley Head

141. On Fire! With Greg Mullins AO, Oral McGuire & Professor Lesley Head

Well known ABC radio presenter Natasha Mitchell called this an “unbelievably powerful session ‘On Fire!’” Ballardong Noongar leader and regenerative landholder, Oral McGuire, was alongside Greg Mullins, the former NSW Fire Commissioner who became a major national figure in the Black Summer bushfires, and Professor Lesley Head, co-author of the latest book in the incredible First Knowledges series (the first book in that series, Songlines, was featured in episodes 92 and 93, and they’re still amo

Oct 24, 2022 • 42:58

140. Bruce Pascoe on loving Country on the brink of great change

140. Bruce Pascoe on loving Country on the brink of great change

Bruce Pascoe in an Aboriginal Australian man, award-winning writer, and farmer. Last month I was fortunate to host Bruce in conversation at the brilliant Quantum Words Festival here in Perth. This was Schools Day, so there were about 150 people, mostly students, in the theatre. The session’s touchstone was Bruce’s extraordinary book Young Dark Emu. In keeping with its themes, we travelled deep and wide here, and in pin-drop attentive silence. The event billing read: In Young Dark Emu - A Truer H

Oct 17, 2022 • 47:26

139 Extra. Douglas Rushkoff on grounding, mentors & fatherhood

139 Extra. Douglas Rushkoff on grounding, mentors & fatherhood

Here’s a little over 20 additional minutes of ‘offcuts’ from my conversation with Douglas Rushkoff. It features a few of our more personal exchanges. The first seven or eight minutes delves further into the dangerous appeal Douglas is seeing in the thinking of some prominent people. Which leads to exploring some recent experiences of the over-culture in our respective countries, with community-based election successes. Then we share a few instructive thoughts about respective older mentors, in l

Oct 10, 2022 • 24:01

139. Douglas Rushkoff on surviving the tech billionaires & embodying the over-culture

139. Douglas Rushkoff on surviving the tech billionaires & embodying the over-culture

Douglas Rushkoff is the Professor of Media Theory and Digital Economics who MIT named one of the “world’s ten most influential intellectuals.” He also hosts the podcast I listen to most, called Team Human. And he’s the best-selling author of 20 books, including the new one, Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires. The publisher’s blurb reads: ‘We always knew but now we *know*. The tech elite mean to leave us all behind. In Survival of the Richest, Rushkoff traces the o

Oct 3, 2022 • 1:17:09

138. Living as One Organism: Matthew Evans on soil and reimagining the world from the ground up

138. Living as One Organism: Matthew Evans on soil and reimagining the world from the ground up

Matthew Evans is a chef, farmer, host of the popular TV series Gourmet Farmer, and most recently the author of ‘Soil: The incredible story of what keeps the earth, and us, healthy.’ And what an incredible story. Prepare for perhaps the most mind-blowing hour on this podcast (and that feels like it’s saying something). Matthew’s framed it as a story of bombs, of civilisations falling, of gods and pestilence, and redemption. Author and journalist Gabrielle Chan wrote, ‘This book is an urgent and p

Sep 26, 2022 • 1:05:30

137. A Transforming Military Industrial Complex, with Rob Pekin & Uncle Kel O’Neill at Food Connect

137. A Transforming Military Industrial Complex, with Rob Pekin & Uncle Kel O’Neill at Food Connect

Robert Pekin is the CEO & co-founder of Food Connect, the self-described ‘systems enterprise’ in Brisbane. You might remember Rob from episode 28 with his brilliant partner Emma-Kate Rose, when we talked at length about their back-story and their soon to be successful $2m equity crowd fund. And from episode 88 last year, with Kungalu and Birri-Gubba Woman Gaala Watson, on an imminent native grains - and milling - breakthrough, and a transformation in governance led by First Nations. When I w

Sep 19, 2022 • 16:33

136. Convergence: Terry & Pam McCosker on the story behind the greatest regen ag movement in Australia

136. Convergence: Terry & Pam McCosker on the story behind the greatest regen ag movement in Australia

Dr Terry McCosker OAM is the legendary co-founder of RCS Australia. Charles Massy credits RCS as being behind the greatest regenerative agriculture movement in Australia. And throughout its pioneering decades, Pam McCosker has been the unheralded lynch pin. Terry makes no secret of it. Nor did Charles when he wrote in his best-selling Call of the Reed Warbler: “When I look back over the rise of regenerative agriculture in Australia, I see at the forefront Terry and Pam McCosker and their RCS org

Sep 12, 2022 • 1:20:20

135. High Valley Dawn: Ross O’Reilly on a rugby legend’s journey to vulnerability & regen vision

135. High Valley Dawn: Ross O’Reilly on a rugby legend’s journey to vulnerability & regen vision

Ross O’Reilly is a former champion regional rugby league coach, real estate agent and restauranteur, all on the way to founding his ultimate vision in 2016 – High Valley Dawn. It carries the label ‘permaculture farm’, but somehow feels like so much more. Think incredible market garden and food forest, deeply restorative work place and learning centre, grazing animals and thriving community, with all sorts of layers on that. And it’s still just getting started.I first learned about Ross when Terr

Sep 5, 2022 • 1:02:00

134. The Next Economy: Dr Amanda Cahill on showing up for communities in transition

134. The Next Economy: Dr Amanda Cahill on showing up for communities in transition

Dr Amanda Cahill is the CEO of The Next Economy. I feel like I’ve already introduced Amanda to you, given how often she’s come up in conversations here. And you might even recognise her from Damon Gameau’s film 2040, or more recently on the ABC’s Q&A program. Amanda’s work at The Next Economy supports communities, government, industry and others to develop a more resilient, just and regenerative economy. Most of this work results from being increasingly invited into regional communities arou

Aug 29, 2022 • 1:01:13

133. You Are What You Read: Jodie Jackson on a new global network, changing our media diet & the world

133. You Are What You Read: Jodie Jackson on a new global network, changing our media diet & the world

Jodie Jackson is an author, yoga practitioner and media campaigner. Her first book is titled ‘You Are What You Read: why changing your media diet can change the world’. “Information is to the mind, what food is to the body”, she says. And after becoming a mother, and seeing the news affect even her small children, she wrote the children’s book ‘Little Ruffle and The World Beyond’. All this stemmed from years of looking deeply into the psychological impact of the news. Yes, she discovered no shor

Aug 22, 2022 • 1:08:59

132 Extra. Kristy Stewart on enabling next generations

132 Extra. Kristy Stewart on enabling next generations

This special extra with Kristy Stewart features 20 additional minutes or so from our conversation. We went on here to talk about innovative enterprise development and next generation opportunities, and working with government and communities to help open these up. On the one hand, we talked changes to zoning and other regulations that inhibit young people and others joining in with value-add enterprises. And beyond that, Kristy’s been part of her community coming together in an influential local

Aug 15, 2022 • 23:11

132. An Agroforestry Revolution: Kristy Stewart on family, community & spiritual transformation

132. An Agroforestry Revolution: Kristy Stewart on family, community & spiritual transformation

Kristy Stewart is a regenerative farmer, free-diver, and next generation community leader. Kristy is already impressing audiences, students and other farmers around the country. And in a sense, it’s no surprise, given her pioneering family stock. Her father is Andrew Stewart, award-winning co-founder with Rowan Reid, in 1993, of the world-renowned Otway Agroforestry Network, in the south-east of Australia. Charles Massy describes it as the flagship of not only a revolution in agroforestry, but i

Aug 15, 2022 • 1:03:12

131. A Narrative of Possibility: A ‘Town Hall’ conversation with school striker Kate Fenech

131. A Narrative of Possibility: A ‘Town Hall’ conversation with school striker Kate Fenech

Kate Fenech is an impressive 15 year old student who’s found herself part of the extraordinary SS4C movement (the School Strikes for Climate), with growing passions for marine science and regenerative farming. I met her when we were both late conscripts to a premiere screening of Regenerating Australia in Busselton, WA, that ended up becoming a unique post-film dialogue. The film’s director, Damon Gameau, was a late withdrawal, as was young activist and author, Bella Burgemeister. So Kate and I

Aug 8, 2022 • 50:08

130. One of the Major Transformations of Our Time: Dr Valerie Brown on the collective mind

130. One of the Major Transformations of Our Time: Dr Valerie Brown on the collective mind

Dr Valerie Brown is a Visiting Professor at the renowned Fenner School of Environment and Society at the Australian National University, and an international figure in the field of collective thinking, with a list of awards and accolades as long as your leg. But what brought me to her door was hearing doyen of regenerative agriculture, Charlie Massy, defer to her over the years. Charles was among her first students in the pioneering Human Ecology course in 1974 (a course the university establish

Aug 1, 2022 • 1:26:41

129. Changing Paradigms Over a Lifetime: A tribute to the legendary Hazel Henderson

129. Changing Paradigms Over a Lifetime: A tribute to the legendary Hazel Henderson

Today’s episode features the legendary author, advisor and media producer, Hazel Henderson. Hazel has had such a big impact on so many, including yours truly. In my case, it has stemmed from over two decades following her work, and two hours of unhurried conversation for this podcast back in 2019. At the end of that conversation, Hazel invited me to visit if ever I was in Florida. And though I haven’t travelled overseas for 15 years, with emissions and other things in mind, I couldn’t help but w

Jul 25, 2022 • 51:22

128. Operating at Human Speed: Jade Miles on Futuresteading, funding a movement & finding a way

128. Operating at Human Speed: Jade Miles on Futuresteading, funding a movement & finding a way

Jade Miles is an author, podcaster, farmer, organiser, speaker, and a few other things besides. I first came across Jade’s podcast, Futuresteading, back when it started. Then last year, the visual extravaganza of Futuresteading the book came along - sub-titled ‘live like tomorrow matters: practical skills, recipes and rituals for a simpler life’. It draws on Jade’s family life at Black Barn Farm – which features an incredible orchard of around 100 varieties of heritage fruit and berries, along w

Jul 18, 2022 • 1:07:02

127. Changing the Face of Farming & Milling in Australia, with Courtney Young & Ian Congdon

127. Changing the Face of Farming & Milling in Australia, with Courtney Young & Ian Congdon

You might remember Ian Congdon and Courtney Young from one of the great stories we heard about last year, on how this young family is changing the face of farming - and milling - in Australia. That’s through their incredibly delicious enterprise Woodstock Flour, and Courtney’s spectacular art. As it happens, our conversation last year took place on the day they finished building the first Australian mill in who knows how long. And coincidentally, it was also settlement day for the purchase of t

Jul 11, 2022 • 28:44

126. Seeding & Protecting the Cultures We Need, with Serenity Hill & Kirsten Larsen

126. Seeding & Protecting the Cultures We Need, with Serenity Hill & Kirsten Larsen

This is a profound personal and collective story right at the heart of systemic and cultural change. Serenity Hill and Kirsten Larsen are regenerative farmers and co-founders of the Open Food Network. You might remember my conversation with Kirsten online two years ago, as Covid took hold, and Open Food Network took off. At that stage, they’d experienced a tenfold increase in both people signing up to the platform and in turnover, while spanning over a dozen countries. A lot has happened since,

Jul 3, 2022 • 1:07:26

125. Beyond Title Fight: Paul Cleary on the extraordinary Yindjibarndi triumph over a mining giant

125. Beyond Title Fight: Paul Cleary on the extraordinary Yindjibarndi triumph over a mining giant

Paul Cleary is a best-selling author and journalist who’s just written an incredible book – certainly a must read for any Aussie, and every West Aussie, with implications that arguably extend far beyond. It’s called ‘Title Fight: How the Yindjibarndi battled and defeated a mining giant’. The back cover bills it as ‘a David and Goliath story set in the ancient landscape of the Pilbara’. That’s in the north-west, here in WA. And the mining giant is Fortescue Metals Group (or FMG), led by billionai

Jun 26, 2022 • 1:08:01

124. Natural Intelligence: Jane Slattery on co-founding the ‘world breakthrough’ concept & practice

124. Natural Intelligence: Jane Slattery on co-founding the ‘world breakthrough’ concept & practice

Jane Slattery is the co-founder, with Diane and Ian Haggerty, of natural intelligence farming – underpinning what Charles Massy has called their ‘world breakthrough’ operation. And to hear Di an Ian defer to Jane in many ways, had me so looking forward to meeting her. Then, earlier this year, I happened to be near Jane’s neck of the woods in South Australia, hosting one of the Planet Talks at WOMAD. Thankfully, she was up for coming into Adelaide for a chat. And more by fate than design, she fol

Jun 20, 2022 • 1:19:21

123 Extra. A Cosmic Voyager with Amnesia, Fred Provenza in Part 2 of The Wisdom Body

123 Extra. A Cosmic Voyager with Amnesia, Fred Provenza in Part 2 of The Wisdom Body

This extra to episode 123, with the legendary Fred Provenza, delves into more of the metaphysical context of everything we spoke about in the main episode. We traverse the spectra of collapse and regeneration, and how we can live well in all that, here and now. There are some profound stories of personal transformation here – and an ultimate convergence of mythology and mysticism with his life’s work on the wisdom body.This part of our conversation led up to the ‘music question’ that closed the

Jun 13, 2022 • 20:22

123. The Wisdom Body: Fred Provenza on a paradigm change in animal, human & planetary health

123. The Wisdom Body: Fred Provenza on a paradigm change in animal, human & planetary health

Professor Fred Provenza is the legendary behavioural ecologist and author who has revolutionised how we understand the nature of animal health and intelligence, and its connection to our human health and intelligence. This includes the regenerative role of livestock, in all sorts of ways. And through his own deep personal trials and transformations, Fred has come to embody this knowledge in ways that shine a light not only on the extraordinary regenerative capacities of nature, including humans,

Jun 13, 2022 • 1:18:11

122. Regenerating Australia Live, with Damon Gameau, Heidi Mippy, Di Haggerty & Oral McGuire

122. Regenerating Australia Live, with Damon Gameau, Heidi Mippy, Di Haggerty & Oral McGuire

Damon Gameau, the award-winning director of That Sugar Film and 2040, toured his new film Regenerating Australia around Western Australia’s south a few weeks ago. Joining him on the panel in Leederville, inner-city Perth, was highly regarded First Nations woman Heidi Mippy, Natural Intelligence Farming co-founder Dianne Haggerty, and me. Ballardong Noongar man, Oral McGuire, who you’ll have heard mentioned a bit on this podcast (like in eps 87 and 105), granted us the privilege of his powerful W

Jun 6, 2022 • 51:54

121 Extra. How Election Day Unfolded, with Kate Chaney in the now independent seat of Curtin

121 Extra. How Election Day Unfolded, with Kate Chaney in the now independent seat of Curtin

This extra to episode 121 follows how election day unfolded with Kate Chaney, in the now independent seat of Curtin. You’ll hear the growing atmosphere on the day, culminating in an extraordinary night, with powerful words from Kate that give great insight into the building of a community, and a campaign. We start at the local polling booth, and hear from Kate early on. Then it’s on to the Claremont Showgrounds for what was certainly our first election night candidate celebration – and we weren’

May 30, 2022 • 23:43

121. A Political Paradigm Shift: Kate Chaney on being the 7th new independent female MP in Australia

121. A Political Paradigm Shift: Kate Chaney on being the 7th new independent female MP in Australia

Kate Chaney has become the first female independent MP from Western Australia to be elected to the Australian parliament – along with a whopping eleven other independents. A year ago to the day on this podcast, Cathy McGowan – Australia’s first female independent MP in 2013 – talked of the potential to transform politics in this country by 2030. Merely a year on, and that transformation is well underway. This story isn’t limited to Australia either. But more on that another day. This Australian

May 30, 2022 • 29:14

120. The Hidden Roots of Restoration: Tony Rinaudo on The Forest Underground, mindsets & new book

120. The Hidden Roots of Restoration: Tony Rinaudo on The Forest Underground, mindsets & new book

Tony Rinaudo instigated what’s been called “probably the largest positive environmental transformation in the Sahel and perhaps in all of Africa." They call him The Forest Maker, but Tony will tell you the transformation was really in the people, starting with himself. I had this conversation with Tony back in 2020, and have never forgotten it. It’s one of those stories you wish everyone knew. So when Tony reached out to me recently to let me know he’d just finished his autobiography, and g

May 23, 2022 • 44:55

119. Conversations with Coal Miners about Climate Change: Kim Paul Nguyen on his ‘must-watch’ film

119. Conversations with Coal Miners about Climate Change: Kim Paul Nguyen on his ‘must-watch’ film

Kim Paul Nguyen is a multimedia journalist and filmmaker. He recently produced a documentary film called ‘Conversations with Coal Miners about Climate Change’, funded by the Walkley Foundation and distributed by VICE. And what a film. Damon Gameau, the award-winning filmmaker of 2040, That Sugar Film, and most recently Regenerating Australia, calls it a ‘must-watch’. In many ways, there is no more important a story. And Kim navigates it beautifully. Though not without hitting up against the chal

May 16, 2022 • 1:08:18

118. Farming Fire, Forests & Fish: Agostino Petroni on solutions journalism & great success stories

118. Farming Fire, Forests & Fish: Agostino Petroni on solutions journalism & great success stories

Agostino Petroni is a journalist, author, economist, gastronome, and 2021 Pulitzer Center Reporting Fellow. His work appears in National Geographic, BBC, The Atlantic and many more. I first came across it in Reasons to be Cheerful, the terrific news outlet founded by one of my all-time favourite musicians and producers, David Byrne. That outlet is part of a growing movement sometimes called ‘solutions journalism’. Though you might just call it good journalism. And Agostino’s article that first c

May 9, 2022 • 56:21

117. Healing People, Healing Country: Elder Eugene Eades on the profound restoration of Nowanup

117. Healing People, Healing Country: Elder Eugene Eades on the profound restoration of Nowanup

A lost and angry childhood spawned a champion boxer, and out of this, a community leader. And fifteen years ago, Eugene Eades became the backbone of the incredible restoration of Country at Nowanup - inland of Bremer Bay in the south of Western Australia. This is a particularly privileged conversation on Country at Nowanup, with this legendary Aboriginal elder. Eugene might move a little slower than those championship days, but his sharp eyes, wry humour, and rock solid presence resonate as powe

May 2, 2022 • 1:21:35

116. Restoration on Mt Romance: Louise O’Neill on holistic health, farming & change

116. Restoration on Mt Romance: Louise O’Neill on holistic health, farming & change

Louise O’Neill is a British-born holistic health professional and farmer. She met husband Warren as a backpacker, and now with their two sons, they’ve embarked on a gutsy, vivid and transformative journey. The O’Neills were farmers in the wheatbelt of Western Australia, but reached a point where the tribulations and toxicity of that life were literally hitting them in the face. When a tractor breakdown prompted personal breakdown, they picked up and moved south, took courses in regenerative agri

Apr 25, 2022 • 37:20

115 Extra - Mountainside to Oceanside … & Back: Tanya Massy on heartbreak & home

115 Extra - Mountainside to Oceanside … & Back: Tanya Massy on heartbreak & home

Part 2 of this episode with Tanya Massy was recorded in two locations. The first half was recorded back at the farm in Western Australia, on that hay bale. We delved further into Tanya’s deep personal journey of leaving Severn Park and starting up a new farming enterprise on the other side of the country. That was recorded back in January, as that enterprise was just going to market. Then came heartbreak. Soon after we left, Tanya and Kris had to pull the plug on it all and return to the Massy f

Apr 18, 2022 • 35:38

115. Farming Wonder: Tanya Massy on growing up, starting up & scaling up regeneration

115. Farming Wonder: Tanya Massy on growing up, starting up & scaling up regeneration

Tanya Massy is one of three brilliant daughters of regenerative agriculture legend, Charles Massy. Though she’ll tell you she’s been equally inspired by the strength and spirit of her mother Fiona. Great lineage aside, Tanya is forging her own pivotal path as a regenerative farmer, award-winning writer, and highly respected researcher. A couple of recent reports, in particular, are making a big impact, exploring the barriers to regeneration, and breakthrough opportunities, with communities aroun

Apr 12, 2022 • 1:08:27

114. Independents surging towards the election, with Cathy McGowan AO

114. Independents surging towards the election, with Cathy McGowan AO

I had this conversation with Cathy McGowan in the middle of last year, just as the community independents movement in Australia was really picking up. Since then, it’s been astronomical – the number of ‘voices for’ groups has exploded around the country, followed by an array of quality candidates that have responded to their communities’ calls to contest the next federal election. And many of them are genuine contenders. So with the election now due next month, it seemed a good time to re-releas

Apr 3, 2022 • 27:12

113 Extra. Transformaciones con la Cultura Maya y la Permacultura, con María Inés Cuj y Rony Lec

113 Extra. Transformaciones con la Cultura Maya y la Permacultura, con María Inés Cuj y Rony Lec

This is a Spanish version of episode 113. Esta es una versión en español del episodio 113. Aqui, por supuesto, Inés habla por sí misma, y Rony traduce mis palabras. Desafortunadamente, no incluye las partes del episodio principal donde Rony y yo hablamos en inglés, cuando me dirigía a él directamente. Pero incluye una platica divertida extraoficial donde hablamos entre nosotros tres en español. Retomamos nuestra conversación al principio.El Instituto Mesoamericano de Permacultura (IMAP) es una c

Mar 30, 2022 • 45:15

113. Transformations with Mayan Culture & Permaculture, with María Inés Cuj & Rony Lec

113. Transformations with Mayan Culture & Permaculture, with María Inés Cuj & Rony Lec

El Instituto Mesoamericano de Permacultura (IMAP) - the Mesoamerican Permaculture Institute - is a not-for-profit coop that started in 2000 in San Lucas Tolimán, on the shores of the spectacular Lake Atitlán in the Mayan highlands of Guatemala. It was created by a group of Maya Kakchiquel with the desire to use native seeds, permaculture, traditional Indigenous knowledge and education, to create social healing after 36 years of armed conflict that wiped out hundreds of communities and displaced

Mar 27, 2022 • 1:13:22

112 Extra. On the Banks of the Martuwarra: Part 2 of my conversation with Natalie Davey

112 Extra. On the Banks of the Martuwarra: Part 2 of my conversation with Natalie Davey

This extra to episode 112 features the rest of my conversation with Traditional Custodian of the Martuwarra Fitzroy River, Natalie Davey. We pick up our conversation with a couple minutes more of Natalie’s description of the kinship systems of her Indigenous community. Then we delve into the brilliant story of how Nat and her old man ended up hosting a show on the local First Nations radio station – and some of the enormous benefits stemming from it. And we go on to what Natalie thinks is needed

Mar 18, 2022 • 35:44

112. We All Need to Connect: Natalie Davey on protecting the Martuwarra - & everything else

112. We All Need to Connect: Natalie Davey on protecting the Martuwarra - & everything else

Our final episode recorded in the Kimberley last year features Natalie Davey, a Bunuba-Walmajarri woman, Traditional Custodian of the Martuwarra Fitzroy River, first Indigenous Chair of Environs Kimberley, broadcaster, artist, educator and so much more. What a privilege it was to be welcomed to her home and Country, on the banks of the River just outside Fitzroy Crossing. The Martuwarra is one of the last wild rivers in the world and, as you may have heard in previous episodes, it’s at the heart

Mar 14, 2022 • 1:04:50

111. Movement at the Station: David Pollock on the Minister’s return & big changes at Wooleen

111. Movement at the Station: David Pollock on the Minister’s return & big changes at Wooleen

David Pollock is one of Australia’s most prominent regenerative pastoralists. He and wife Frances have featured a few times on the award-winning ABC TV series Australian Story. But I’m more fond of telling people these days they’ve featured a few times on this podcast! David’s also known for his brilliant book, ‘The Wooleen Way: Renewing an Australian Resource’. That was aptly described as ‘The astonishing story of reviving the oldest land on Earth’. When the book was published a few years ago,

Mar 6, 2022 • 56:33

110. Independents Day: Kate Chaney on contesting a key seat & transforming politics

110. Independents Day: Kate Chaney on contesting a key seat & transforming politics

Kate Chaney is another of the growing number of independent candidates being announced around the country who might have a big say in the next pivotal federal election here in May. Kate is being described by many media outlets as Liberal Party royalty. That’s the nominally conservative party in Australia – or at least it has been, prior to this incoherent incarnation currently in government. Kate’s uncle, Fred Chaney, was a prominent Liberal Party parliamentarian, and her grandfather too. But th

Feb 28, 2022 • 59:35

109. Cultural Economies at the Greatest Rock Art Gallery in the World, with Clinton Walker

109. Cultural Economies at the Greatest Rock Art Gallery in the World, with Clinton Walker

Clinton Walker is a Traditional Custodian of the incredible Murujuga (or Burrup Peninsula), on the north-west coast of Australia. You might recall my conversations with archaeologist Peter Veth and the co-authors of Songlines, Lynne Kelly and Margo Neale, last year. They all related back to this place – where the Songlines start, as Clinton puts it. So at the end of last year, as my family and I headed south from the Kimberley, Clinton and I met up to record a yarn for the Clean State podcast, t

Feb 21, 2022 • 56:51

108. Regenerating Australia: Damon Gameau on the new film, fund & 2030 vision

108. Regenerating Australia: Damon Gameau on the new film, fund & 2030 vision

Damon Gameau has been a wonderful presence in so many of our lives for a couple of decades now - from his prominent acting career, to his transformation into an award-winning film-maker. There’s his timeless Tropfest winner Animal Beatbox, through to his legendary documentary features That Sugar Film and 2040. Now there’s a new film about to launch, with the vision honed towards 2030. This vital decade. It’s another master work – a short film with a big story. It’s called Regenerating Australia.

Feb 14, 2022 • 1:06:49

107. It’s a Transformation, with regenerative farming pioneer Dianne Haggerty

107. It’s a Transformation, with regenerative farming pioneer Dianne Haggerty

Dianne Haggerty probably doesn’t need an introduction these days. When last on the podcast for episode 68 around 18 months ago, I’d come to visit Di and husband Ian to learn about their world breakthrough regenerative farming operation. You’ll have heard them mentioned in a number of episodes since (and featured on ABC TV and elsewhere). Their natural intelligence ethos, fierce grace and incredible story of regeneration ignite the imagination. And their episode remains among the top 6 most liste

Feb 7, 2022 • 19:20

106. Therapeutic & Cultural Economies: Petrine McCrohan on a changing paradigm in the Kimberley

106. Therapeutic & Cultural Economies: Petrine McCrohan on a changing paradigm in the Kimberley

Petrine McCrohan is the founder of Bridging the Landscapes – our inner and outer landscapes. This has emerged from spending the best part of the last 20 years in the Kimberley, engaged in empowering processes and skilled therapeutic interventions. She’s been doing much of this work as a group facilitator and direct mentor to Aboriginal communities and social enterprise developers. And in the process, she’s observed and assisted a transformation in how initiatives and enterprises are being design

Jan 31, 2022 • 1:04:45

105. The First State to End Native Forest Logging, with Campaign Director Jess Beckerling

105. The First State to End Native Forest Logging, with Campaign Director Jess Beckerling

Jess Beckerling is Campaign Director of the West Australian Forest Alliance (WAFA), and much more besides. She’s a highly respected figure here in the southern reaches of Western Australia, by both those who would traditionally have prioritised conservation, and those who might not have. I spoke with Jess back in July last year for the Clean State podcast, a spin-off series from The RegenNarration specific to WA. At the time, WAFA was seizing the opportunity it sensed to finally end native fores

Jan 24, 2022 • 28:19

104. 2021 RegenNarration Soundtrack: Highlights from our guests this year

104. 2021 RegenNarration Soundtrack: Highlights from our guests this year

This is our customary sign-off episode for the year – a package of highlights from our brilliant array of guests throughout 2021, accompanied by some of the music and sounds of Country you heard along the way. Here's the 'track list':To the podcast theme song The System, by The Public Opinion Afro Orchestra - Damon Gameau (ep 77), Jeff Pow & Michelle McManus (ep 78)To the sounds of Country at one of the magnificent restoration sites at Twin Creeks - Keith Bradby (ep 79) To Riv

Dec 20, 2021 • 43:50

103. The Last Dragon: Charles Massy on Regeneration, the ‘electronic curtain’ & his new book

103. The Last Dragon: Charles Massy on Regeneration, the ‘electronic curtain’ & his new book

Welcome to the final conversation for 2021, featuring globally renowned doyen of regenerative agriculture, Charles Massy. This best-selling author of Call of the Reed Warbler has recently written for Paul Hawken’s NYT best-seller Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis in One Generation. And perhaps less predictably, he’s also been busy writing a new kids’ book. It’s called The Last Dragon. It’s a beautiful work of art, thanks to illustrator Mandy Foot, and the imagery Charlie conjures of an elu

Dec 12, 2021 • 49:07

102 Part 2 Excerpt. The Original Circular Economy, with Bruno & Marion

102 Part 2 Excerpt. The Original Circular Economy, with Bruno & Marion

This is an excerpt from episode 102 (part 2) featuring the last 20 minutes or so of my conversation with Nyul Nyul Traditional Custodian, Bruno Dann, and partner Marion, at Twin Lakes Cultural Park. These 20 minutes are a real highlight. We pick up the conversation with evidence of the original circular economy, when being shown a fig leaf that feels like sandpaper. We go on to talk about the best of the regenerative outcomes they’ve observed at Twin Lakes, the famed international companies they

Dec 8, 2021 • 21:29

102 Part 2. People Want the Story: Heading out to the Ceremonial Grounds, with Bruno & Marion

102 Part 2. People Want the Story: Heading out to the Ceremonial Grounds, with Bruno & Marion

Welcome to part 2 of episode 102 as we join Nyul Nyul Traditional Custodian Bruno Dann, and partner Marion, on a walk out to the old people’s camping, hunting and ceremonial grounds. To even write these words, I feel a wave rise within me. The conversations spring from the old trails we tread, connecting back in with some of the threads from part 1, and charting the journey of how Twin Lakes has emerged as such a compelling story. I’ve experimented a bit with this episode too. I’ve recorded Brun

Dec 5, 2021 • 55:12

102 Extra. Marion’s Unlikely Journey from Sydney to the Kimberley: An impromptu chat by the fire

102 Extra. Marion’s Unlikely Journey from Sydney to the Kimberley: An impromptu chat by the fire

This extra to episode 102 features an impromptu conversation I had with Marion by the fire on our first night there, before the morning walks. It wasn’t intended to be recorded - I’d just been recording some ambient sounds when we got talking. We chat about Marion’s life, and some of her perspective on this incredible story that none of them saw coming – though an elder had prophesised it. Marion’s is a remarkable story in itself, with generations of her family steeped in achievement and adventu

Dec 1, 2021 • 38:31

102. Twin Lakes Cultural Park: A return to Country, restoration & incredible bush products success

102. Twin Lakes Cultural Park: A return to Country, restoration & incredible bush products success

Bruno Dann is a Traditional Custodian of Nyul Nyul Country, and together with partner Marion, they’ve spent a little over 20 years creating the incredible success story that is Twin Lakes Cultural Park. Lying to the north of Broome on the Dampier Peninsula in far north Western Australia, Twin Lakes had been stripped of its First Peoples, and badly neglected. But Bruno still found a way to learn from the old people on this Country when he was a boy, and later returned as an older man.While facing

Nov 29, 2021 • 55:18

101. Burning: On the new film, with Academy & Emmy Award winning filmmaker Eva Orner

101. Burning: On the new film, with Academy & Emmy Award winning filmmaker Eva Orner

Eva Orner is an Academy and Emmy award winning filmmaker. While she lives in the US these days, she’s from Australia, and was here when this country burned so horrifically in the bushfires of 2019 and 2020. Like a lot of us, Eva was struck not just by the fires, but by the defensive political intransigence that persists to this day. So she joined forces with a team that includes the production company of fellow countrywoman Cate Blanchett, to produce and direct the new documentary film Burning.

Nov 15, 2021 • 32:08

100 Excerpt. For young people who would focus on wealth building rather than cash accumulation

100 Excerpt. For young people who would focus on wealth building rather than cash accumulation

This is an excerpt from episode 100 (part 2) featuring the last 15 minutes or so of my conversation with pioneering regenerative pastoralist, Chris Henggeler, on-location at Kachana Station. In some senses, our entire visit to Kachana is distilled into this excerpt. We pick up our conversation where I ask Chris what he needs. A nice initial exchange gives way to some profoundly moving reflections on the value of a life. And that sets up the last minutes of our time together, talking about the te

Nov 11, 2021 • 15:07

100 Part 2. The Value of Life: A personal reflection on regeneration, viability, wealth & change

100 Part 2. The Value of Life: A personal reflection on regeneration, viability, wealth & change

Today’s final stanza from our visit to Kachana Station features a very personal conversation with the pioneering regenerative pastoralist, Chris Henggeler. It felt akin to a kind of life statement in the end. It wasn’t scripted that way, of course. It just seemed to be the culmination of having spent ten rich days together, which also included the looming deadline to shoot the donkeys, Chris’s birthday, and the birth of his third grandchild Ava. We end up talking about things like the viability

Nov 8, 2021 • 49:12

100 Extra. Crunch Time for this Great Regen Story: Heading out to where the donkeys do their work

100 Extra. Crunch Time for this Great Regen Story: Heading out to where the donkeys do their work

The day after our extended conversation in the gorge, featured in the main episode, we headed out to where the donkeys do their work. As mentioned in that main episode, it’s crunch time in many ways for this great story of regeneration. And by extension, for all of us, as a shoot order hangs over the donkeys’ heads. So we head out to take a closer look for ourselves at how the Henggelers are managing these wild donkeys for regeneration.It’s a fascinating deep dive into how this works, with some

Nov 4, 2021 • 47:41

100. Wanted Land Doctors: Rehydrating landscapes, reversing desertification & rebuilding wealth

100. Wanted Land Doctors: Rehydrating landscapes, reversing desertification & rebuilding wealth

Tens of millions of ‘pests’ degrade lands and waters in Australia alone – pigs, goats, camels, buffalos, donkeys. Cruel, wasteful, expensive, mostly futile and often counter-productive culling programs are no solution. But what if it didn’t have to be this way? What if some of those large wild herbivores could be harnessed towards regeneration? This is the story of a family that has regenerated an incredible patch of country, and for 20 years that has incorporated and relied on wild donkeys. The

Nov 1, 2021 • 1:16:54

99. Towards Economies for People & Planet, with Dr Katherine Trebeck & Mike Salvaris

99. Towards Economies for People & Planet, with Dr Katherine Trebeck & Mike Salvaris

Momentum continues to build in our efforts to gear economies towards shared quality of life, rather than sheer quantity of stuff. With COP 26 starting in Glasgow next week, I reached out to Dr Katherine Trebeck for a sense of how it feels on the ground there, along with how the event might leverage more of that broader momentum. That’s our take-off point for looking at some of the significant shifts happening around the world in this space. And we’re joined again by Mike Salvaris, with a major u

Oct 25, 2021 • 34:55

98. Even Today There is an Ancient Law for the River, a live conversation with Dr Anne Poelina

98. Even Today There is an Ancient Law for the River, a live conversation with Dr Anne Poelina

This is a very special episode, a live conversation event with Nyikina Warrwa elder, Dr Anne Poelina. We last spoke on the podcast for episode 84 back in May, on the launch of Regenerative Songlines Australia, and resolved to catch up on her Country here in the Kimberley later in the year. We ended up doing that at this live event I was honoured to host the Q&A for - a screening of the film we also talked about in May, The Serpent’s Tale. The film features the story of the Martuwarra Fitzroy

Oct 21, 2021 • 1:04:27

97. The Rapid Rise of Earth Laws & Breakthrough in First Law Recognition, with Alessandro Pelizzon

97. The Rapid Rise of Earth Laws & Breakthrough in First Law Recognition, with Alessandro Pelizzon

There has been a rush this year of landmark court decisions on climate change, ruling on duties of care, emissions reductions, and other actions for corporations and governments, in Australia and around the world. It’s another sign this generation is changing things, and fast. And some of the broader change afoot is even more powerful than what’s hitting the headlines. This is one of those rapid systemic developments we can easily take for granted. In just over a decade we have witnessed the inc

Oct 18, 2021 • 32:07

96 Extra. A Deep Dive into Regeneration: Part 2 of my conversation with global visionary Paul Hawken

96 Extra. A Deep Dive into Regeneration: Part 2 of my conversation with global visionary Paul Hawken

This is a very special extra to episode 96 with Paul Hawken, the globally renowned environmentalist, author, entrepreneur and activist. I say extra, but it’s really a second part, a whole conversation in its own right. Some of the story behind the story. This is essentially the middle hour and a bit of our conversation, where we deep-dove into some of the keystone themes, if you like, of Regeneration - the themes that enable all the other themes. Or disable them, if absent or mis-placed. Some of

Oct 11, 2021 • 1:21:01

96 Excerpt. Nobody wakes up in the morning & says I can’t wait to mitigate

96 Excerpt. Nobody wakes up in the morning & says I can’t wait to mitigate

This is an excerpt from episode 96 featuring the last 25 minutes or so of my conversation with the legendary environmentalist, activist, entrepreneur and author, Paul Hawken, plus a brilliant preview performance of The Regeneration Song! This really felt like a crescendo of sorts, as we neared the end of a conversation that delved deep over a few hours. The main episode that went out Monday is an edited version. The middle hour or so will be out next, as a special Extra this Monday. For now, if

Oct 7, 2021 • 27:55

96. Regeneration: Ending the climate crisis in one generation, with global visionary Paul Hawken

96. Regeneration: Ending the climate crisis in one generation, with global visionary Paul Hawken

This feels like a pivotal moment. Four years ago, legendary environmentalist, activist, entrepreneur and author, Paul Hawken, compiled the best-selling book Drawdown, a comprehensive plan for reversing global warming. That book changed the world in many ways. And his new one, the sequel to Drawdown, is creating another big wave. It’s called Regeneration: Ending the climate crisis in one generation, and just one week out, it’s already #6 in the New York Times best-seller list. Regeneration is bil

Oct 4, 2021 • 1:28:16

95. Deadly Derby Radio: Sparking voice, connection & women’s footy leagues, with Leon & OJ

95. Deadly Derby Radio: Sparking voice, connection & women’s footy leagues, with Leon & OJ

Community-owned media is a vital part of regeneration, and this is all the more true for First Nations communities. It’s a well-documented leverage point for attaining massive benefits for local and regional communities - which of course, ultimately, means all of us. The award-winning Larrkardi Radio in Derby, far north Western Australia, is a brilliant and resurgent case-in-point. With a 5-pronged boab out front, and a local, regional, national and now even global reach growing within.Leon, Owe

Sep 27, 2021 • 54:12

94 Excerpt. We’ve transformed culture before, can we do it again?

94 Excerpt. We’ve transformed culture before, can we do it again?

This is an excerpt from episode 94 featuring the last 20 minutes or so of my conversation with award-winning Australian film-maker, Mark Jones. We pick up our conversation with perhaps the biggest question I had for Mark: on the back of his charting stories of cultural transformation and survival through enormous climactic and other shifts, can we do it again? And of course, how? The answer, inevitably, is far from a straight line, but it is instructive. And forms the backbone of his epic film c

Sep 23, 2021 • 21:41

94. Stories in Stone: What the ancients are telling us, with award-winning film-maker Mark Jones

94. Stories in Stone: What the ancients are telling us, with award-winning film-maker Mark Jones

Mark Jones is a crocodile handling, campaign building, award-winning Australian film-maker. He has been living and working extensively in the Kimberley for nearly 30 years, since unexpectedly becoming a novice camera operator with revered adventure film maker Malcolm Douglas. Mark develops stories and films with deep underlying messages that reflect this very special part of the world, and its increasingly important part in where we go from here as a society and civilisation. And all that is com

Sep 20, 2021 • 1:02:20

92 & 93 Excerpt. Us mob got the stories, that museum mob got the Toyotas

92 & 93 Excerpt. Us mob got the stories, that museum mob got the Toyotas

This is an excerpt from episodes 92 and 93, parts 1 and 2 of Songlines: Combining the most powerful knowledge systems ever known. We pick up the conversation with Lynne Kelly, as she shares some of the incredible stories of how schools and universities have been embedding her work (think law and medicine degrees with students memorising 88 constellations!). Then she runs us through how it works, how this has transformed her understanding of Indigenous cultures and Country, and how this is just s

Sep 12, 2021 • 32:01

93 Extra. The Transformation Seeps In, with Margo Neale

93 Extra. The Transformation Seeps In, with Margo Neale

This extra to episode 93 features more of Margo Neale, co-curator of the extraordinary exhibition Songlines: Tracking the Seven Sisters, and co-author of the best-selling book Songlines: The power and the promise. Margo and I decided to keep rolling with our conversation at some length. I found it to be profound and wonderful stuff, so I wanted to share it all with you. We start here with the transformative effect the exhibition has had on her. And how it has affected the communities who led it.

Sep 5, 2021 • 49:41

93. Songlines: Combining the most powerful knowledge systems ever known (Part 2), with Margo Neale

93. Songlines: Combining the most powerful knowledge systems ever known (Part 2), with Margo Neale

Like our previous guest, Lynne Kelly, in part 1 of this series on Songlines, Margo Neale is a pioneer. Margo is of Aboriginal & Irish descent, from the Kulin nation with Gumbayngirr clan connections. And she’s the lead curator of the extraordinary exhibition Songlines: Tracking the Seven Sisters, that has made such an incredible mark on Australia, and is about start its high-profile world tour. At the same time, the First Knowledges book series Margo is bringing together has started with an

Sep 5, 2021 • 1:04:02

92. Songlines: Combining the most powerful knowledge systems ever known (Part 1), with Lynne Kelly

92. Songlines: Combining the most powerful knowledge systems ever known (Part 1), with Lynne Kelly

Lynne Kelly is now often referred to as The Memory Whisperer. Amidst great personal trial and self-doubt, she stumbled on a series of insights that are revolutionising Western understandings of ancient knowledge systems. And with the likewise brilliant Indigenous woman Professor Margo Neale, they are showing how the combination of Western knowledge systems with reinvigorated ancient ones, is where the deep promise lies for enabling the regeneration of life on this planet.Late Night Live is one o

Aug 29, 2021 • 1:00:47

91. A personal message to launch The RegenNarration Patreon Page

91. A personal message to launch The RegenNarration Patreon Page

The Patreon page for The RegenNarration is now live! And from here, the podcast goes weekly, with some brewing plans that I hope you might support. It’s actually been a pretty long and deeply felt process to get to this point. So I wanted to share some of that journey with you here – some of why I’m doing this, where it’s come from, and what’s coming on next. For those who just want to cut to the chase and become one of the first subscribing patrons of The RegenNarration, you’ll find the link be

Aug 22, 2021 • 20:33

90 Excerpt. What does it mean to be a thriving city? With Marieke van Doorninck

90 Excerpt. What does it mean to be a thriving city? With Marieke van Doorninck

This is an excerpt from episode 90 featuring the Deputy Mayor of Amsterdam, Marieke van Doorninck, on how the City is working to become the world’s first ‘doughnut economy’. We pick up our conversation with 20 minutes or so to go, starting with how people are engaging with the City’s doughnut economy strategy. We go on to talk about a few ways the work is being done, including some projects and initiatives under way, or being talked about. Marieke brings depth to the notion of a circular economy

Aug 16, 2021 • 24:13

90. Becoming the World’s First Doughnut Economy, with Amsterdam Deputy Mayor Marieke van Doorninck

90. Becoming the World’s First Doughnut Economy, with Amsterdam Deputy Mayor Marieke van Doorninck

Marieke van Doorninck is Deputy Mayor of the City of Amsterdam, the first city to formally adopt Kate Raworth’s Doughnut Economics as their compass for human progress. At this podcast's beginning, Kate Raworth talked with me about her best-selling book Doughnut Economics, proposing an economic model fit for the 21st century - one that meets the needs of all within the means of the planet. She calls the doughnut a playfully serious approach to framing that challenge. And it has inspired the

Aug 9, 2021 • 59:58

88 & 89 Excerpt. It’s the most exciting thing I’ve done in a long time

88 & 89 Excerpt. It’s the most exciting thing I’ve done in a long time

This is an excerpt from episodes 88 and 89, parts 1 and 2 of A Native Grains and Native Mills Resurgence. It features around 15 minutes of each episode, patched together with Rob’s closing lines from the Extra to episode 88. So first up, you’ll hear Rob Pekin and Gaala Watson from the legendary social enterprise Food Connect. We chat about how Gaala and Rob came together here, and the connection between social enterprise and Aboriginal systems of governance. Then we go on to explore how their ea

Aug 2, 2021 • 30:44

89. A Native Grains & Native Mills Resurgence, Part 2:  Ian & Courtney on the art of regeneration

89. A Native Grains & Native Mills Resurgence, Part 2: Ian & Courtney on the art of regeneration

Welcome to Part 2 of A Native Grains & Native Mills Resurgence, featuring the young farmers changing the face of farming in Australia. Ian Congdon, Courtney Young and family are farmers, mill makers, artists and business people, and they’re exploring how all this connects with culture, creativity, and the regeneration of country and community. If you haven’t yet listened to last week’s episode with Gaala Watson and Rob Pekin from Food Connect, the trailblazing social enterprise and legendary

Jul 26, 2021 • 50:58

88 Extra. In This Place You’ll Be Fully Human, with Rob Pekin

88 Extra. In This Place You’ll Be Fully Human, with Rob Pekin

This is a brief extra to episode 88 with Robert Pekin, founder of the award-winning social enterprise Food Connect. It features 10 minutes where Rob and I continued on briefly after Gaala left. It's well worth the listen for some profound reflections on Rob’s part.Title slide: Robert Pekin (supplied).Music:By Jeremiah Johnson.Find more:Tune into the main episode, ‘A Native Grains & Native Mills Resurgence, Part 1: Gaala Watson and Rob Pekin on custodial enterprise’.Send us a textSupport

Jul 19, 2021 • 13:12

88. A Native Grains & Native Mills Resurgence, Part 1: Gaala Watson & Rob Pekin on custodial enterprise

88. A Native Grains & Native Mills Resurgence, Part 1: Gaala Watson & Rob Pekin on custodial enterprise

You might remember Robert Pekin (with his partner Emma-Kate Rose) from episode 28. Rob’s the founder of Food Connect, the trailblazing social enterprise and legendary community food hub in Brisbane. Since then, plenty has happened at Food Connect. The $2m equity crowd-fund – an Australian first - was successful. And Gaala Watson, a Kungalu and Birri-Gubba Woman born and raised in Brisbane, came on board as Chair of the Food Connect Foundation. That convergence of people, skills and cultures is b

Jul 19, 2021 • 41:37

87 Excerpt. The Momentum is Growing, with Willem Ferwerda

87 Excerpt. The Momentum is Growing, with Willem Ferwerda

This is an excerpt from episode 87 featuring the last 20 minutes or so of my conversation with the CEO of Commonland, Willem Ferwerda. We pick up our conversation with a question I’ve been looking forward to delving into with Willem for a while – how do we create a regenerative economy that fosters healing of country and restoration of landscapes by its very nature, in the face of cultures and systems going the other way (think shareholder value, GDP as a measure of progress, investment expectat

Jul 12, 2021 • 20:30

87. COVID & the Wolf: Willem Ferwerda on making landscape restoration & Spirit the heart of economy

87. COVID & the Wolf: Willem Ferwerda on making landscape restoration & Spirit the heart of economy

Willem Ferwerda has an extraordinary background as an ecologist and international policy leader. But a little over a decade ago, after backing over 1,000 conservation projects, he decided to face down the fact that they weren’t making a dent in our slide into mass extinction and ecosystem collapse. He turned towards business and economics, and has since dedicated himself to building practical bridges between ecology and economy. Since founding Commonland in 2013, his team has been applying its h

Jul 5, 2021 • 55:26

86 Excerpt. Getting worthy of people worth coming from, with Stephen Jenkinson

86 Excerpt. Getting worthy of people worth coming from, with Stephen Jenkinson

This is an excerpt from episode 86 featuring the full gripping 13 minutes of Fate, a track from the new release album by Stephen Jenkinson and key collaborator Gregory Hoskins (with band). We pick up our conversation with 15 minutes or so to go, leading in to that piece of music. We talk Fate, our primordial starting point vs a nostalgia for secretly remaining in charge, and drinking daily from eye sockets. Title slide: The cover image for Fate, with Gregory Hoskins and Stephen Jenkinson (suppli

Jun 28, 2021 • 27:59

86. A Generation’s Worth: Stephen Jenkinson on climate strikes, making music & what now?

86. A Generation’s Worth: Stephen Jenkinson on climate strikes, making music & what now?

You might remember that Stephen Jenkinson was my first guest when this podcast changed name to The RegenNarration, back in episode 35. For those who are newer to the podcast, Stephen’s a special presence in the world – a wonderful lyricist and story teller, teacher and ceremonialist, author and farmer. Our last conversation delved into his new book at the time, Come of Age: The Case for Elderhood in a Time of Trouble, in which the case is made that we must birth a new generation of elders, one p

Jun 21, 2021 • 1:12:46

85 Excerpt. It’s Just Been Made for Us, with Cathy McGowan AO

85 Excerpt. It’s Just Been Made for Us, with Cathy McGowan AO

This is an excerpt from episode 85 featuring the last 20 minutes or so of my conversation with Cathy McGowan. We pick things up with the passage that became the opener in the main episode. It heralds a powerful sequence from Cathy, and an insight into what’s bubbling up around the country in the lead up to the next federal election. We then go into how things worked for her, and other increasingly successful independents, on the ground – the practical realities, the value set, and the networks o

Jun 14, 2021 • 24:52

85. Politics That Works: A proven way becoming a powerful movement, with Cathy McGowan AO

85. Politics That Works: A proven way becoming a powerful movement, with Cathy McGowan AO

Cathy McGowan was the first female independent MP to sit on the Australian parliamentary cross bench. She was elected in 2013 to the federal seat of Indi, which had been an entrenched conservative party seat for 74 years. At the following election, in 2016, she increased her majority, despite the Liberal/National Party coalition going hard to reclaim it. When Cathy bowed out of parliament ahead of the 2019 election, Indi again made Australian political history with the election of Dr Helen Haine

Jun 7, 2021 • 1:00:08

84 Excerpt. Is the Snake Waking? With Dr Anne Poelina

84 Excerpt. Is the Snake Waking? With Dr Anne Poelina

This is an excerpt from episode 84 featuring the last 20 minutes or so of my conversation with Dr Anne Poelina. We pick up the conversation with Anne’s powerful articulation of a way to proceed with planning in the Kimberley, on the back of an existing federal government bioregional framework. We go on to talk more about the incredible new film The Serpent’s Tale, leading to Anne’s heart-rending plea for more of us to correspond with the West Australian government. She goes on to suggest how. An

May 27, 2021 • 23:23

84. Regenerative Songlines: Film, First Law & the Martuwarra Fitzroy River, with Dr Anne Poelina

84. Regenerative Songlines: Film, First Law & the Martuwarra Fitzroy River, with Dr Anne Poelina

This episode departs from the usual schedule, as there’s a particularly pressing aspect to this one. Dr Anne Poelina is a Nyikina Warrwa (Indigenous Australian) woman who belongs to the Mardoowarra, the lower Fitzroy River in the Kimberley region of Western Australia. She is also Chair of the esteemed Martuwarra Fitzroy River Council. When Anne and I last spoke for the podcast, in Broome a few years ago, I said this:“If anywhere epitomizes the critical time we’re in, it’s in the spectacular cult

May 24, 2021 • 1:11:24

83 Excerpt. Changing our Psyche, with Peter Veth

83 Excerpt. Changing our Psyche, with Peter Veth

This is an excerpt from episode 83 featuring the last 20 minutes or so of my conversation with award-winning archaeology professor, Peter Veth. We pick it up at the tail end of Peter answering my question about how archaeology has changed to work with First Nations, not on them. We went on to chat about the global ‘blockbuster’ exhibition Songlines, currently touring, and how it’s changing the Australian (and arguably world) psyche. We then delve more into the extraordinary impacts that these em

May 20, 2021 • 25:55

83 Extra. How to respond in the crucible of these landscapes, with Peter Veth

83 Extra. How to respond in the crucible of these landscapes, with Peter Veth

This is a special extra to episode 83 with award-winning archaeologist, Peter Veth. We delve further here into what Peter believes needs to happen in the crucible of landscapes such as those in north west Australia. We talk about the place of heavy industry, cultural enterprise and interpretation, economies, education and media. With an approach that celebrates the extraordinary deep time value of these co-created landscapes and cultures. Generating a more universal view, as Peter puts it – refl

May 17, 2021 • 10:44

83. Regenerating in Deep Time: New finds, narratives & futures, with archaeologist Peter Veth

83. Regenerating in Deep Time: New finds, narratives & futures, with archaeologist Peter Veth

Australia’s history is being significantly rewritten - or perhaps better said, heard. There is growing widespread understanding of the sophistication, presence and wisdom of the First Australians, and not just from the game-changing works of people like Bruce Pascoe and Bill Gammage. Now that modern Australia is looking in more of the right places, with the right mind, and with the First Australians themselves, our national - and really, human - story, is changing everywhere. This is a story of

May 17, 2021 • 1:10:44

82 Excerpt. It Shows We Can Do It, with Geoff Bastyan

82 Excerpt. It Shows We Can Do It, with Geoff Bastyan

This is an excerpt from episode 82 featuring a grab of about 14 minutes or so from my conversation with Geoff Bastyan. He’s the bloke at the heart of what’s been recognised as the world’s most successful seagrass restoration. And what a story it is. With all the key ingredients. Like being told it couldn’t be done, facing a dire wipe out of the pre-existing seagrass meadows, and intuiting the surprisingly simple method that would turn it all around. And what that means for marine habitat and foo

May 10, 2021 • 13:46

82. The World’s Most Successful Seagrass Restoration, with humble pioneer Geoff Bastyan

82. The World’s Most Successful Seagrass Restoration, with humble pioneer Geoff Bastyan

You might remember Keith Bradby from Gondwana Link in episode 79 a few weeks ago. If you haven’t heard it yet, suffice to say here that Gondwana Link has been called “the most exciting thing happening in restoration in Australia, if not the world.” Within its 1,000 kilometre restoration zone lies the Oyster Harbour catchment. And the Harbour that does the catching has drawn renown as the site of the world’s most successful seagrass restoration. With a humble bloke by the name of Geoff Bastyan at

May 3, 2021 • 35:05

81 Excerpt. Tim Winton on Systemic Change, Ningaloo & Useless Beauty

81 Excerpt. Tim Winton on Systemic Change, Ningaloo & Useless Beauty

This is an excerpt from episode 81 featuring the last 20 minutes or so of my conversation with writer and Australian National Living Treasure, Tim Winton. We pick up the conversation where I wondered if Tim agreed that the grounds for positive change seemed to be getting more fertile. We go on to explore more of Tim’s personal story, source of meaning, and view on the value of art. Especially in the context of joining efforts to transition away from this ‘peculiar, savage and inhumane form of ca

Apr 27, 2021 • 20:46

81. Leaning Towards the Light: Recovering masculinity, meaning & true power, with writer Tim Winton

81. Leaning Towards the Light: Recovering masculinity, meaning & true power, with writer Tim Winton

I had this conversation with Tim Winton back in 2018, but it’s been front of mind for me again in recent weeks, as we enter a moment of reckoning on gender-related inequality and violence – certainly in a big way in Australia right now, and of course more broadly in the wake of the #MeToo movement, and so many others over a long period of time. It also continues to invoke a kind of personal reckoning. You’ll hear more from me on this at the start of this episode. To many of you, Tim won’t need a

Apr 21, 2021 • 47:19

80 Excerpt. Staying in the Infinite Game, with award-winning filmmaker Nicol Ragland

80 Excerpt. Staying in the Infinite Game, with award-winning filmmaker Nicol Ragland

This is an excerpt from episode 80 featuring the last 20 minutes or so of my conversation with award-winning filmmaker and photographer, Nicol Ragland. How does Bill Gates’ recent ‘intervention’ in food systems differ from what we really need? And how are some First Nations people saying ‘no thanks’ to that intervention? These questions lead our conversation through Nicol’s work with Regenerate Oklahoma, some of her transformative experiences with Indigenous peoples around the world, and what th

Apr 12, 2021 • 24:59

80 Extra. If We Could Do This Across the Globe, with Nicol Ragland

80 Extra. If We Could Do This Across the Globe, with Nicol Ragland

This is a special extra to episode 80 with award-winning filmmaker, Nicol Ragland. We hear more of Nicol’s personal journey from childhood and artist, through to formative experiences with Indigenous cultures around the world. We explore this in parallel to the growing movement in solutions journalism and regenerative media, and where it all could take us. Particularly if married with the sort of education model she’s witnessed right here in Australia, with Terry McCosker and his team at RCS.Tit

Apr 5, 2021 • 20:04

80. Regenerative Media: What if it’s not about solving but connection? With filmmaker Nicol Ragland

80. Regenerative Media: What if it’s not about solving but connection? With filmmaker Nicol Ragland

Nicol Ragland is an award-winning film maker and photographer from the US. I first came across Nicol when she directed the spectacular short film, Farmer’s Footprint, featuring Dr Zach Bush and a group of regenerative farmers including Gabe Brown. It echoed so many of the stories you hear on this podcast, and elsewhere, of both the litany of issues in the wake of ‘big agriculture’ and its related systems, and the often-surprising pace of recovery among those communities able to step out from und

Apr 5, 2021 • 1:08:23

79 Excerpt. Systems Not Species: Reconnecting people, places & the politics of change

79 Excerpt. Systems Not Species: Reconnecting people, places & the politics of change

This is an excerpt from episode 79 featuring the last 20 minutes or so of my conversation with Keith Bradby, CEO of Gondwana Link. We explore the machinations of change, from intuition and leaps of faith, through to connecting all kinds of people and places, across all kinds of political and cultural divides. We then delve into what this means for the economics and politics of change, including how to keep carbon in context. And we close with how to keep ourselves from being distracted by the ca

Mar 29, 2021 • 23:58

79. Gondwana Link: The most exciting restoration at scale in Australia, with Keith Bradby OAM

79. Gondwana Link: The most exciting restoration at scale in Australia, with Keith Bradby OAM

Gondwana Link has been called “the most exciting thing that is happening in restoration in Australia, if not the world.” It’s a one thousand kilometre stretch of country extending right across the south of Western Australia. This globally recognised biodiversity hotspot had been little understood, and devastatingly cleared. But not all of it. And Gondwana Link is restoring and re-connecting these land and seascapes, their communities, and their cultures. Hundreds of people, dozens of groups, pri

Mar 22, 2021 • 1:00:33

78 Excerpt. Natural Intelligence: Providing the conditions for life to flow into

78 Excerpt. Natural Intelligence: Providing the conditions for life to flow into

This is an excerpt from episode 78 featuring the last 25 minutes of my conversation with leading holistic farmers, Jeff Pow and Michelle McManus. We explore what it takes to regenerate country, community and custodianship. And to kick that off, I raise a section of the recent popular TV series here in Australia, Fight for Planet A, that had me squirming in my seat. We then delve into some fascinating work around the health of ancient cultures relative to our modern ‘lifestyle’ afflictions, and h

Mar 16, 2021 • 26:03

78 Extra. From a thousand degrees underground to stewarding a sanctuary

78 Extra. From a thousand degrees underground to stewarding a sanctuary

Marking Jeff's run for Parliament at the West Australian state election today, this is a special extra to episode 78 with Jeff Pow and Michelle McManus. It’s a stretch of eight minutes or so that starts with Jeff describing the extraordinary and instructive experience of the day Southampton burned. And it closes with a collective reflection on notions of responsibility, stewardship and the long game. Title slide: The burned out shell of the historic Southampton Homestead (pic: Anthony James

Mar 13, 2021 • 9:32

78. Growing Food & Farmers - for 500 years! With holistic managers Jeff Pow & Michelle McManus

78. Growing Food & Farmers - for 500 years! With holistic managers Jeff Pow & Michelle McManus

Jeff Pow and Michelle McManus are bringing chicken farming back to earth, and playing a part in rebirthing opportunities for communities and regions everywhere. They’ll say they’re doing nothing particularly new, but they’re finding a way to regenerate country, community and economy in an unprecedented context of crises. For them, most recently, an horrific bushfire devastated their historic Southampton Homestead and Farm. We explore their soulful and award-winning journey of recovery, as they f

Mar 9, 2021 • 1:10:24

77 Excerpt. Stories that are Changing the Story, with Damon Gameau

77 Excerpt. Stories that are Changing the Story, with Damon Gameau

This is an excerpt from episode 77 featuring the last 15 minutes or so of my conversation with the award-winning director of ‘That Sugar Film’ and ‘2040’, Damon Gameau. We pick up on what Damon says has been the most rewarding, promising and important part of his work with both films – working with kids and teachers in education. One million young people have engaged with the 2040 film and initiatives alone. And its upcoming US TV release is still to come. We go on to talk about a number of othe

Mar 1, 2021 • 16:47

77. 2021: Approaching Regenerative Tipping Points? With award-winning film maker, Damon Gameau

77. 2021: Approaching Regenerative Tipping Points? With award-winning film maker, Damon Gameau

Welcome to a new year of The RegenNarration. And what a year it’s shaping up to be. But before we get into that, I wanted to take a brief moment here to admit to feeling a little flat. And by extension, to explain the delayed start to the podcast this year. Some sad and in some ways seismic changes have consumed me in recent times. And really, these changes relate to everything this podcast is about. So this episode starts on that note, before leading in to a conversation spanning a spectrum of

Feb 22, 2021 • 1:07:53

76. Regeneration Soundtrack 2020: Highlights from our guests in 2020

76. Regeneration Soundtrack 2020: Highlights from our guests in 2020

We’re signing off for the year with our annual episode of highlights from our brilliant array of guests throughout 2020. If you’ve been listening throughout this unique and likely transformative year, enjoy the revisit. And for those newer to the podcast, here’s a snapshot of how the year played out on The RegenNarration.Track list:Welcome to 2020 (from ep. 53), to music by Jeremiah JohnsonDr Sheila Nguyen (from ep. 54)Mike Salvaris (from ep. 55), and Jo Chandler (from ep. 56), all to The System

Dec 9, 2020 • 17:11

75 Extract. The Change is Very Close, with Allan Savory

75 Extract. The Change is Very Close, with Allan Savory

This is an extract from episode 75 featuring the last half an hour of my conversation with regenerative agriculture and holistic management pioneer, Allan Savory. We pick up where Allan states the need for this to go mainstream now. He goes on to propose how it might happen, while laying down the challenge. And outlines why he believes the change is very close. We go on to talk about the largely ‘accidental’ way Allan’s life and insights have evolved, and the subtle but vital role ‘gut feel’ has

Dec 5, 2020 • 34:07

75 Extra. The Domino Effect: Addressing the cause of climate change, megafire & desertification

75 Extra. The Domino Effect: Addressing the cause of climate change, megafire & desertification

This is a special extra to episode 75 with Allan Savory. We delve further here into a few areas that have been pivotal to Allan’s pioneering life. It starts with a little exchange on how wilderness and livestock-based agriculture can regenerate country together (and where they can’t). Then we turn to the wilderness within, going back to the incredibly formative time Allan experienced as a tracker. And another as the leader of the opposition party in Rhodesia, before being forced into political e

Dec 1, 2020 • 36:27

75. Regenerating Civilisation: Allan Savory on holistic management, scaling & a sense of survival

75. Regenerating Civilisation: Allan Savory on holistic management, scaling & a sense of survival

Haul back through the spread of regenerative agriculture in recent decades, and Allan Savory is there. His global influence is hard to overstate. Here we chat about his extraordinary life, and the evolution of his insights that have proved so transformative for so many. Thinking holistically is one thing. But how do we actually manage our lives and societies holistically? And ultimately, how do we engage the institutions that we’ve come to so distrust, to enable regeneration at scale - in whatev

Dec 1, 2020 • 1:16:32

74 Extract. Going the Distance: Rosanne Scott on holistic living, a life’s insights & old hymns

74 Extract. Going the Distance: Rosanne Scott on holistic living, a life’s insights & old hymns

This is an extract from episode 74 featuring the end of my conversation with the founding director and current Chair of Perth City Farm, Rosanne Scott. We’d just been talking about some of the powerful stories of Aboriginal heritage where City Farm is located. That lead to the exchange we start with here, about arts and culture being central to organising societies in holistic, fulfilling and effective ways. We go on to trace this theme through Rosanne’s life – from her childhood in Kolkata, to

Nov 23, 2020 • 30:44

74. City Farm: From industrial wasteland to cultural icon, with founding director Rosanne Scott

74. City Farm: From industrial wasteland to cultural icon, with founding director Rosanne Scott

Last year was the 25th birthday of a cultural icon and regenerative hub, nestled into the inner eastern suburbs of Perth, Western Australia. City Farm is an extraordinary place – an urban farm with a big vision. This half hectare block was a degraded industrial wasteland. But an inspired community transformed it into a place for organic food, farming, community connection, arts, enterprise and education that enables people to live richly and regeneratively. It’s first load of soil actually came

Nov 18, 2020 • 1:09:37

73 Extract. Sport, Nature & The Superhuman: The stories that connect, with Amy Steel & Lily Brazel

73 Extract. Sport, Nature & The Superhuman: The stories that connect, with Amy Steel & Lily Brazel

This is an extract from episode 73 featuring the end of my conversation with Amy Steel, former Australian netballer, global EcoAthletes and Sports Environment Alliance Ambassador, and Senior Manager | Sustainability and Climate Change at Deloitte; and Lily Brazel, now former Australian hockey player, global EcoAthletes Ambassador, and founder of Stature Clothing (including its podcast The State of Us). We pick up here with Lily’s bombshell, letting go of her lifelong dream of playing for the Hoc

Nov 10, 2020 • 28:50

73. The Biggest Sports Story: Climate, business & a sense of ultimate success

73. The Biggest Sports Story: Climate, business & a sense of ultimate success

Amy Steel and Lily Brazel are outstanding international athletes. Well, Amy was. Until a heat stroke after a pre-season game prematurely ended her career. Still suffering the effects today, she’s set upon a path of working with big business to help achieve perhaps humanity's greatest milestone - meeting the Paris Climate Agreements. Amy’s quickly established herself as Senior Manager, Sustainability and Climate Change at Deloitte, while also being a global Ambassador for EcoAthletes and the

Nov 3, 2020 • 1:05:23

72 Extract. Being the Work: Living the mycelial network of regeneration, with Nicole Masters

72 Extract. Being the Work: Living the mycelial network of regeneration, with Nicole Masters

This is an extract from episode 72 featuring the end of my conversation with author, systems thinker and regenerative soils educator, Nicole Masters. We talk about what she’s seen of human transformation, particularly where people have been navigating change pro-actively, as opposed to responding to trauma. We go on to chat about where the regenerative movement is at, her changing focus, and the powerful marriage of story-tellers with the regeneration happening on the ground. Title slide: Nicole

Oct 26, 2020 • 19:04

72 Extra. Transcending the polarised vaccination debates, with Nicole Masters

72 Extra. Transcending the polarised vaccination debates, with Nicole Masters

This extra to episode 72 features an additional few minutes with author, systems thinker and regenerative soils educator, Nicole Masters. It stems from the enthralling part of our conversation in the main episode about soil, the microbiome, gut health and our immune systems (from around the 40-minute mark). This triggered a question that I’d thought about a while back, after speaking with Dr Zach Bush on all this for episode 62. What are the implications of all this for the polarised debates aro

Oct 22, 2020 • 8:18

72. Restoring the Metropolis of Living Earth: From chemical to nature’s paradigm with Nicole Masters

72. Restoring the Metropolis of Living Earth: From chemical to nature’s paradigm with Nicole Masters

The world is desertifying at a truly alarming rate. It’s estimated that thirty footy fields of soil are lost per minute around the world. And after thousands of years of human agriculture, there may only be 60 harvests left in those soils. But if you’ve been listening to this podcast for a while, you’ll know there’s another option here – a regenerative transformation is emerging with at times staggering speed and success. And in some of my recent conversations, you’ll have heard me mention one o

Oct 20, 2020 • 1:10:04

71 Extract. It's to do with the Koori Courts, with live panel

71 Extract. It's to do with the Koori Courts, with live panel

This is an extract of our live panel conversation from the end of episode 71, ‘The Law of the Land: Creating a regenerative system of law’. Each speaker has just presented for 10 minutes, so we pick up here at the beginning of our all-in conversation with Professor Kate Auty, Dr Alessandro Pelizzon, Nicola Rivers and Michael Leunig. It starts with Kate relating the success of the Koori Courts to our collective needs right now. We go on to explore varied cultural understandings of law and the liv

Oct 12, 2020 • 18:13

71 Extra. The Coolamon Trees: Changing law at its core, with live panel

71 Extra. The Coolamon Trees: Changing law at its core, with live panel

This extra to episode 71 features the rest of our live conversation with Professor Kate Auty, Dr Alessandro Pelizzon and Nicola Rivers. We pick up the last 5 minutes of our conversation on stage, before 20 minutes or so of outstanding audience Q&A. The conversation delves further here into the global movement for the rights of nature, including where it’s being done well, the “intensely practical” role we have in all this, and how to think about law as part of the overarching transition to r

Oct 6, 2020 • 28:51

71. The Law Of The Land: Creating a regenerative system of law, with live panel

71. The Law Of The Land: Creating a regenerative system of law, with live panel

Decades of legal protection for the living world haven’t stopped it being progressively destroyed. So what do we need to do, and what’s currently being done, to regenerate the law of the land and better protect and restore the living world?Thinking about all this again in recent weeks prompted me to go back to a recording of a live panel event I produced on the topic at Melbourne’s Federation Square back in 2015 (billed Preventing Crimes Against Nature at the time). I was moved all over again by

Oct 6, 2020 • 1:02:51

32 Extract. Land, Mind & Regeneration, with Charles Massy

32 Extract. Land, Mind & Regeneration, with Charles Massy

On Monday 28 September, one of this country’s most awarded and long-standing documentary series, Australian Story, featured regenerative farmer and best-selling author, Charles Massy AO. Charles’ best-selling book, ‘Call of the Reed Warbler: A New Agriculture, A New Earth’ has been described by Paul Hawken as “a definitive masterpiece that takes its place along with the writings of Aldo Leopold, Wendell Berry, Masanobu Fukuoka, Humberto Maturana, and Michael Pollan. No work has more brilliantly

Sep 26, 2020 • 33:26

70 Extract 2. Long-form Podcasts as the New Camp Fire, with Tyson Yunkaporta

70 Extract 2. Long-form Podcasts as the New Camp Fire, with Tyson Yunkaporta

There are so many notable parts of this episode with Tyson Yunkaporta that, true to the title of this extract, invite you to come sit with us for the hour and a bit of the main episode (and the extra if you'd like more). But having said that, this is another little extract I did want to highlight. It’s our foundational exchange early in the piece on long-form podcasting being the new camp fire. Particularly in the absence of being around a real fire for much of this year, I like Tyson’s art

Sep 24, 2020 • 4:01

70 Extract. Sand, Superhumans & Songlines, with Tyson Yunkaporta

70 Extract. Sand, Superhumans & Songlines, with Tyson Yunkaporta

This is an extract of my conversation with Tyson Yunkaporta from the end of episode 70, ‘Sand Talk: Indigenous thinking, saving the world & living creation’. It starts with me suggesting to Tyson, in the wake of our conversation to this point, that a particular tale in his book might offer us a touchstone for our yarn. It turns out he’d never been asked about this part of his book before, but I’d noted it’s something he thinks about every day. The minutes that ensued have stayed with me sinc

Sep 21, 2020 • 19:36

70 Extra. This Galactic Executive Function, with Tyson Yunkaporta

70 Extra. This Galactic Executive Function, with Tyson Yunkaporta

This extra to episode 70 features the rest of my conversation with Tyson Yunkaporta, author of the award-winning book Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World. This is the part of our conversation that picked up after Tyson’s toilet stop. We delve further here into the universality of loss in being separated from land, the fascinating convergence of thinking around the centrality of the gut to our larger intelligence or big spirit, and the essential value of being with those differe

Sep 14, 2020 • 22:09

70. Sand Talk: Indigenous thinking, saving the world & living creation, with Tyson Yunkaporta

70. Sand Talk: Indigenous thinking, saving the world & living creation, with Tyson Yunkaporta

Tyson Yunkaporta is the author of award-winning book, Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World, and a Senior Lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne. He’s also a poet and artist carving traditional tools and weapons, processes that were central to writing the book. Tyson belongs to the Apalech Clan from Western Cape York in far north Queensland, with community/cultural ties all over Australia. Fellow Indigenous writer, last year’s Miles Franklin Award win

Sep 14, 2020 • 1:17:01

67 Extract. I Believe We Can Go All The Way, with co-founder of RCS Australia Dr Terry McCosker

67 Extract. I Believe We Can Go All The Way, with co-founder of RCS Australia Dr Terry McCosker

This is an extract from what has quickly become one of the most played episodes on this podcast - and the second most played episode in the last year (behind only my conversation with Zach Bush MD, the keynote international guest to RCS Australia’s Conference scheduled next year). It features the last 20 minutes of my conversation with Terry McCosker for episode 67, Behind the Greatest Regenerative Agriculture Movement in Australia: Dr Terry McCosker on life, death and learning true power. We ta

Sep 10, 2020 • 22:57

68 Extract. Opportunities to Get Back on Country, with Dianne & Ian Haggerty

68 Extract. Opportunities to Get Back on Country, with Dianne & Ian Haggerty

This is an extract from my conversation with Dianne and Ian Haggerty for episode 68, Natural Intelligence Farming: The ‘world breakthrough’ regenerating land, health and community. You'll hear the last 20 minutes of the main episode, back at the homestead, after we’d been getting around a couple of the farms over the preceding days. We talk about how the Haggerty's are creating and supporting ‘work to own’ and value-add enterprises to help regenerate community on country. This is a gre

Sep 7, 2020 • 21:23

69. Communities Were Built Around This: The return of the Miller & Baker, with Mark Taylor

69. Communities Were Built Around This: The return of the Miller & Baker, with Mark Taylor

Mark Taylor is the miller and baker at the Miller + Baker store, recently opened in North Perth. It is a spectacular American Stone Mill (the first of its kind in Western Australia), and an amazing bakery, but that’s not the half of it. You might remember in my conversation with pioneering regenerative farmers Dianne and Ian Haggerty, for episode 68, that they mentioned some of their ‘natural intelligence’ grains go to this local miller and baker. Well, I’ve followed the grain’s trail to hear mo

Sep 1, 2020 • 35:34

68 Extra 2. Sensing Country: A series of offcuts, with Dianne & Ian Haggerty

68 Extra 2. Sensing Country: A series of offcuts, with Dianne & Ian Haggerty

This additional extra to episode 68 features a series of conversations at the homestead that were reluctantly cut from the main episode, along with some off-the-record exchanges around the fire one evening. Together, they chart an important and moving part of the story. From how business is being done with the natural intelligence system, and the opportunities being sought for all – and not just with carbon; to the intuitive depth underpinning their re-connection with Country, and how we might b

Aug 25, 2020 • 28:30

68 Extra. The ‘Natural Intelligence’ Back Story: With Dianne & Ian Haggerty at the homestead

68 Extra. The ‘Natural Intelligence’ Back Story: With Dianne & Ian Haggerty at the homestead

In this extra to episode 68, we delve into the fascinating back story of Di and Ian’s ‘world breakthrough’ operation. We talk about how they came to their key insights and breakthroughs, Di’s formative experience in the health industry, what owning a remote roadhouse taught them, some of the extraordinary people, places and communities who’ve influenced them on the journey, and yes, how they were told they’d never make it.Ian and Di Haggerty were raised in farming families. They’re both of the w

Aug 24, 2020 • 32:08

68. Natural Intelligence Farming: The ‘world breakthrough’ regenerating land, health & community

68. Natural Intelligence Farming: The ‘world breakthrough’ regenerating land, health & community

Dianne and Ian Haggerty form a highly respected, pioneering regenerative farming duo. I’ve come to visit them in the central wheat belt of Western Australia, to learn more about what Charles Massy has called their ‘world breakthrough’ operation. They call it ‘natural intelligence’ farming. Guided by the microbiome, and a whole host of other living systems, the Haggerty’s are regenerating degraded drylands grappling with salinity, chemical residues, climate and other compounding issues, and turni

Aug 17, 2020 • 1:03:20

67 Extra. Recarbonising the Economy, Regenerative Education & Fire in the Belly of Reconciliation

67 Extra. Recarbonising the Economy, Regenerative Education & Fire in the Belly of Reconciliation

In this special extra to episode 67, we talk about some of the key changes that Terry’s observed over the decades, and how to keep them coming. We also elaborate on the vision he articulated in the main episode, including some major shifts in supply chains and some of the positive politics currently unfolding around carbon and biodiversity credits. And we delve more deeply into his stock in trade – what regenerative education looks like! Terry tells the story of the teacher who triggered his gro

Aug 3, 2020 • 37:16

67. Behind the Greatest Regen Ag Movement: Dr Terry McCosker on life, death & learning true power

67. Behind the Greatest Regen Ag Movement: Dr Terry McCosker on life, death & learning true power

Terry McCosker is a formidable store of experience and wisdom, born of a love of the land and an acute sense of humanity, and forged through suffering unimaginable tragedy. And that’s alongside the trials and tribulations that come from simply being at the vanguard of significant change.Terry is a farmer, self-described transient part-owner of the National Estate, and co-founder of RCS Australia. Charles Massy has called RCS this country’s leading broad-scale grazing and farming education compan

Aug 3, 2020 • 1:00:51

66. Wooleen, A Year On: Carbon trading, COVID & mining for regeneration, with David Pollock

66. Wooleen, A Year On: Carbon trading, COVID & mining for regeneration, with David Pollock

David Pollock is one of Australia’s most prominent regenerative pastoralists. You may have seen David and his wife Frances on ABC TV’s Australian Story. You may also have heard my previous conversations with them on this podcast. The most recent of those was when David’s brilliant book was released, almost a year ago. It’s called ‘The Wooleen Way: Renewing an Australian Resource’, and it’s been described as ‘The astonishing story of reviving the oldest land on Earth’. Well, a lot has happened in

Jul 27, 2020 • 37:42

65 Extract. Resilient Reefs: A global vision, proven model & coming together to survive coral reefs

65 Extract. Resilient Reefs: A global vision, proven model & coming together to survive coral reefs

This is an extract from our conversation on Jansz Beach overlooking Ningaloo Reef, for episode 65. It features the first 15 minutes of our chat on the Resilient Reefs Initiative – the vision, the successful model it’s based on, and what’s happened so far. That includes some brilliant recent developments bringing people together, including some breaking news regarding the Traditional Custodians and now Native Title holders. The last 5 minutes or so is drawn from the end of the episode. It include

Jul 16, 2020 • 26:24

65. Keeping Coral: Regenerating reef communities & livelihoods, with the Resilient Reefs Initiative

65. Keeping Coral: Regenerating reef communities & livelihoods, with the Resilient Reefs Initiative

We're back at the magnificent Ningaloo Reef for a couple of firsts - the first conversation in person for the year, and a world first collaboration aiming for the survival of the world’s coral reefs, and the communities that depend on them. Dr Peter Barnes is the Marine Park Coordinator at Ningaloo Reef – one of five World Heritage listed coral reefs. Australia is blessed with the responsibility for two of these – the other being the Great Barrier Reef – which only serves to heighten the im

Jul 13, 2020 • 55:38

64 Extract. A global vision, Restore Australia & the power of reconciliation, with Tony Rinaudo AM

64 Extract. A global vision, Restore Australia & the power of reconciliation, with Tony Rinaudo AM

This is an extract from the end of my conversation with Tony Rinaudo, the award-winning Senior Climate Action Advisor for World Vision, aka The Forest Maker. We talk about his global vision, how societies can come to read the land again, and how the extraordinary summer bushfires triggered a major new global collaboration recently launched in Australia. But it was the story Tony told of a truth and reconciliation process in Africa that perhaps holds the key to all of it.Title slide: the moment o

Jul 3, 2020 • 19:53

64 Extra. We Were Nothing (the trees were almost a side-event), with Tony Rinaudo AM

64 Extra. We Were Nothing (the trees were almost a side-event), with Tony Rinaudo AM

After we’d signed off on our conversation for the podcast, Tony and I kept talking. Thankfully I hadn’t stopped recording, because what followed could have been the first thing we talked about. In some ways, it sums up everything. So here it is. A little of our parting exchange. Starting with a story from the time of Tony's leaving Niger.If you’ve come to this extra first, head over to the main episode 64 to hear the rest of my conversation with Tony Rinaudo AM (link below).Title slide: Hal

Jun 29, 2020 • 5:42

64. The Forest Maker: And the largest environmental transformation in Africa, with Tony Rinaudo AM

64. The Forest Maker: And the largest environmental transformation in Africa, with Tony Rinaudo AM

Tony Rinaudo AM is the award winning Senior Climate Action Advisor for World Vision, also known as The Forest Maker. This Australian agronomist revolutionized reforestation in Africa, alongside the communities in which he worked, with a system called Farmer Managed Natural Regeneration (FMNR). In Niger alone, where the desert was still expanding 20 years ago, around six million hectares of land have been restored. Having spread to 24 countries in Africa, Tony’s vision is for it to reach 100 coun

Jun 29, 2020 • 1:03:46

63 Extract. Good Root Systems: Supermarkets, true costs & moving up the tailpipe

63 Extract. Good Root Systems: Supermarkets, true costs & moving up the tailpipe

This is an extract from the end of my conversation with Open Food Network co-founder, Kirsten Larsen, featuring the story of her personal transformation, and how to get more involved with regenerative food systems. It starts, though, with the story supermarkets trade off – the story of efficiency, economies of scale, and cheap food. And increasingly, to their credit, a story of greening – getting better with waste, for example. But the model is still seeing the costs of cheap food being borne by

Jun 22, 2020 • 23:16

63. Food Unincorporated: How a grass-roots food system went global, with co-founder Kirsten Larsen

63. Food Unincorporated: How a grass-roots food system went global, with co-founder Kirsten Larsen

Kirsten Larsen is co-founder with partner Serenity Hill of the Open Food Network. It’s a not-for-profit, global collaboration building food distribution systems that are fair, local and transparent. The Network’s flagship open source platform had been successfully enabling ethical food distribution in multiple countries. Now, in the wake of COVID-19, it has gone to a whole new level, as producers look for alternative ways to sell quality produce, and eaters look for alternative ways to access it

Jun 17, 2020 • 1:10:32

62 Extract 2. The Universal Adoption of Regenerative Practices this Decade, with Zach Bush MD

62 Extract 2. The Universal Adoption of Regenerative Practices this Decade, with Zach Bush MD

The only thing limiting the future is the past.” – Zach Bush MDThis is a second extract from the end of my conversation with globally renowned physician, Zach Bush MD, picking up from where the previous extract on glyphosate left off. Zach has been startled by our regenerative capacity, since his film Farmer’s Footprint became a global phenomenon. Now the broader project is about to launch - Project Biome. Its mission? No less than the universal adoption of regenerative agricultural, medical and

Jun 10, 2020 • 24:37

62 Extract. Glypho-Gate: Glyphosate & the fraying fabric of life on Earth, with Zach Bush MD

62 Extract. Glypho-Gate: Glyphosate & the fraying fabric of life on Earth, with Zach Bush MD

“Glyphosate acts as a gateway chemical to all the rest.” – Zach Bush MDThis is an extract from my conversation with globally renowned physician, Zach Bush MD, on the notorious and ubiquitous chemical, glyphosate (found in the common herbicide RoundUp).When I first heard Dr Zach Bush talk about the extent of the damage that the chemical glyphosate is doing to the biological underpinnings of life on Earth, it sank in me like a stone. Zach charts a bit of the chemical’s history here, we share a ver

Jun 8, 2020 • 27:24

62 Extra 2. The Poet Doctor: A meandering path to medicine, with Zach Bush MD

62 Extra 2. The Poet Doctor: A meandering path to medicine, with Zach Bush MD

Here’s another little extra to my conversation with globally renowned physician, Zach Bush MD.  We chatted a while longer, after our ‘formal’ podcast conversation had ended, about our respective paths in life.  These few minutes inform so much about who Zach is today, so I ended up asking if he’d mind me sharing them here.  With his kind permission, then, here’s a snapshot of Zach’s meandering path to medicine, through magical realism, traumatic awakenings, and deep grace.If you’ve come to this

Jun 4, 2020 • 6:06

62 Extra. More Poisoning than Infection: A further look at COVID-19, with Zach Bush MD

62 Extra. More Poisoning than Infection: A further look at COVID-19, with Zach Bush MD

In this special extra to episode 62 with globally renowned physician, Zach Bush MD, we continue to delve into the coronavirus pandemic, through the lens of the microbiome.  Zach has found that when you map soil degradation, air pollution and other toxicity over viral outbreaks, the coronavirus starts to look more like a poisoning than an infection. If you’ve come to this special extra first, head over to the main episode 62 to hear the rest of my conversation with Zach Bush MD (link below).Find

Jun 1, 2020 • 28:58

62. Launching Project Biome: A changing paradigm of human & planetary health, with Zach Bush MD

62. Launching Project Biome: A changing paradigm of human & planetary health, with Zach Bush MD

Zach Bush MD is a renowned, triple board certified physician, and internationally recognized educator on the microbiome, as it relates to human health, soil health, food systems, and a regenerative future. Dr Zach became highly decorated in the medical field, with multiple awards.  Then a growing set of insights built towards a moment of transformation.  His touchstone insight was that we don’t need to solve each of the many increasingly prevalent diseases – we need to regenerate the source of o

Jun 1, 2020 • 1:14:50

61 Extract 3. An Evolving Movement & Consciousness, with global advisor Hunter Lovins

61 Extract 3. An Evolving Movement & Consciousness, with global advisor Hunter Lovins

I feel compelled to post one last extract from the very end of my conversation with the legendary Hunter Lovins - for those who might prefer to listen in ‘chapters’, for those who might not have made it all the way through on first listening, and for those who might be particularly interested in the themes covered here.  And because I’m still deeply moved by how our conversation culminated. This extract segues directly from extract 2, where Hunter left off talking about trying to figure out how

May 27, 2020 • 18:09

61 Extract 2. How the Regenerative Economy is Becoming Mainstream, with global advisor Hunter Lovins

61 Extract 2. How the Regenerative Economy is Becoming Mainstream, with global advisor Hunter Lovins

This is a second brief extract from towards the end of my conversation with the legendary Hunter Lovins.  It opens by looking at the tectonic shift that is apparently underway in the capital flows that will back in regenerative economies.  Where banks are already looking at the stranded fossil fuel assets they’re reclaiming and wondering what to do with them.  And where the opportunities on the other side of the ledger grow.I heard Hunter say not long ago that the regenerative economy was alread

May 25, 2020 • 19:22

61 Extract. What if We Did This Worldwide? With best-selling author & advisor, Hunter Lovins

61 Extract. What if We Did This Worldwide? With best-selling author & advisor, Hunter Lovins

"We can roll back climate change." - L. Hunter LovinsThis is a brief extract from episode 61 with the legendary Hunter Lovins, on the importance of the bio-regional scale – place and community - in creating regenerative economies.  Especially now. There are a couple of great stories in this short clip, including more of her own - starting here with how she recently took out the Humungous Fungus Award.Title slide: Hunter Lovins, by West Coast Green sourced here. Find more:Listen to our

May 22, 2020 • 8:04

61. We’re Gonna Reinvent Everything, with legendary author, educator & rancher, L. Hunter Lovins

61. We’re Gonna Reinvent Everything, with legendary author, educator & rancher, L. Hunter Lovins

Hunter Lovins has been a highly influential figure for many decades in the regenerative economies movement.  She’s a best-selling author, including of the seminal Natural Capitalism, with Paul Hawken and Amory Lovins. She’s also founder and President of Natural Capitalism Solutions, founding Professor of Sustainable Management at the Bard MBA, a pioneering rancher, and Chief of Impact at Change Finance. Hunter consults for companies and countries around the world, has been named Millennium TIME

May 18, 2020 • 1:37:58

60 Extract. How to Feed the World (Well): With host of SBS TV's ‘Gourmet Farmer’, Matthew Evans

60 Extract. How to Feed the World (Well): With host of SBS TV's ‘Gourmet Farmer’, Matthew Evans

This is a brief extract from the end of episode 60 with Matthew Evans, exploring a vision for how we can feed the world (well), in a way that regenerates communities, economies and the planet as a whole. All the more, how we can do it by building on the foundation of where most food is currently produced. Matthew is a farmer and chef at Fat Pig Farm, host of the popular TV series Gourmet Farmer, and most recently the author of ‘On Eating Meat – the truth about its production, and the ethics of e

May 11, 2020 • 14:18

60. On Eating Meat: A regenerative systems view, with ‘Gourmet Farmer’, chef & author, Matthew Evans

60. On Eating Meat: A regenerative systems view, with ‘Gourmet Farmer’, chef & author, Matthew Evans

Matthew Evans is a chef, farmer, host of the popular TV series 'Gourmet Farmer', and most recently the author of ‘On Eating Meat – the truth about its production, and the ethics of eating it’.  The publisher calls it ‘A scorching manifesto on the ethics of eating meat by the best placed person to write about it.’ This is a book and conversation that I’ve so been wanting to have. Whether you’re a meat eater, vegan or somewhere in between, this will change how you see things. And if Matt

May 4, 2020 • 1:13:14

59 Extract 2. A closing word on stories, new models & regenerating our places, with Dr Eduard Müller

59 Extract 2. A closing word on stories, new models & regenerating our places, with Dr Eduard Müller

This is a second brief extract, this time from the end of episode 59 with Dr Eduard Müller. Eduard is the founder of the University for International Cooperation, now at the heart of Regenerate Costa Rica. These closing words from Eduard were so resounding and impactful, they seemed worth sharing in their own discrete package.I've received a number of comments from people strongly moved by this conversation. Thanks very much for sending your messages. It makes this all feel worthwhile.Title

Apr 30, 2020 • 5:57

59 Extract. How Regenerate Costa Rica is building global momentum, with Dr Eduard Müller

59 Extract. How Regenerate Costa Rica is building global momentum, with Dr Eduard Müller

This is a brief extract from episode 59 with Dr Eduard Müller, founder of the University for International Cooperation, now at the heart of Regenerate Costa Rica. It features a part of our conversation that focused on how Regenerate Costa Rica is fast gathering steam, both with local stakeholders and global institutions and networks. Title slide: Rancho Margot, Costa Rica. Eduard describes it as a demonstrative site for true regeneration. It was a degraded cattle farm 14 years ago and now very r

Apr 28, 2020 • 11:31

59. Regenerate Costa Rica: How the spirit of Gaia is stirring, with Dr Eduard Müller

59. Regenerate Costa Rica: How the spirit of Gaia is stirring, with Dr Eduard Müller

Dr. Eduard Müller is founding President and Rector of la Universidad para la Cooperación Internacional (the University for International Cooperation) in Costa Rica. Eduard was a vet, till a growing sense of responsibility for state of the world, prompted a change of course. He got involved in the sustainability movement of the late 1980s, and after the pivotal Rio Summit in 1992, he went on to found the university. It now has thousands of graduates all over the world in regenerative development.

Apr 20, 2020 • 1:03:08

58. Home Is Where the Health Is: The successes, needs & potential of co-op housing – with live panel

58. Home Is Where the Health Is: The successes, needs & potential of co-op housing – with live panel

“If, like us, you’re currently steeped in long days of homebound self-isolation, take a look around your dwelling and observe a moment of gratitude. The more topsy-turvy the world outside becomes, the more we can see the importance of a stable place to live, and that housing and health are often the same thing.” - Reasons to be Cheerful article ‘Why Hospitals are Building Housing’.Around the world, co-ops are playing a significant role in providing housing solutions, and in the process building

Apr 7, 2020 • 1:07:35

57. Choosing a Better Normal Out of COVID-19, with global health systems expert Alanna Shaikh

57. Choosing a Better Normal Out of COVID-19, with global health systems expert Alanna Shaikh

Alanna Shaikh is a global health systems expert. She delivered a TEDx talk barely 2 weeks ago which has been viewed almost seven million times already across its TED & YouTube sites. On the latter it is titled ‘Coronavirus is our future’. But as much as outlining why that is so, a legacy of the human-induced planetary degradation that has brought COVID-19 upon us, it’s about how we can create a different future. How can we learn from the wake-up call of this outbreak, to create a more respon

Mar 24, 2020 • 42:56

56. Journalism, story-telling & running hard as you can: With award-winning journalist Jo Chandler

56. Journalism, story-telling & running hard as you can: With award-winning journalist Jo Chandler

Jo Chandler is an award-winning Australian journalist, author, editor, and educator. She’s become perhaps Australia’s best and most recognised climate journalist, also authoring the awarded book on the topic, Feeling the Heat. Her most recent Walkley Award, Australia’s highest honour in journalism, was for her ongoing freelance work. Jo’s grappled with media and climate disruption on the front line, and shares powerful thoughts on the stories that need to be told, and how we can continue to tell

Mar 10, 2020 • 57:36

55 Extra. The Western Australian Development Index, with Mike Salvaris

55 Extra. The Western Australian Development Index, with Mike Salvaris

This special extra to episode 55 features Mike Salvaris continuing his Ministerial and cross-departmental presentation. We pick up with Mike as he moves from his authoritative global overview on the growing movement beyond GDP, to the nature and status of the proposal being made for a Western Australian Development Index. A reminder that a wonderful e-book of this presentation was also published last week, so while you don’t need to, if you would like to follow the visuals as you listen, you’ll

Feb 25, 2020 • 14:40

55. Will this State Lead the Way Beyond GDP? A Ministerial presentation by Mike Salvaris

55. Will this State Lead the Way Beyond GDP? A Ministerial presentation by Mike Salvaris

Mike Salvaris is a global leader in the development of measures that go beyond the gross inadequacies of Gross Domestic Product, to give us a better picture of our society’s wellbeing or genuine progress. That is, how we’re tracking against what we actually value most – like quality of life, trustworthy institutions, and the health of our families, communities and the rest of the living world.Mike has advised governments, co-founded the OECD Global Progress Research Network, and is Director of t

Feb 25, 2020 • 47:49

54. Sport’s Role in Averting Climate Crisis: With Sports Environment Alliance ED, Dr Sheila Nguyen

54. Sport’s Role in Averting Climate Crisis: With Sports Environment Alliance ED, Dr Sheila Nguyen

As elite sport resumes amidst the pandemic, the Royal Commission into Australia’s summer fires continues. So it seemed a good time to re-post this conversation with Dr Sheila Nguyen - to celebrate the return of top level sport, and to remember the rest of what sport can and needs to be in these times.This Black Summer in Australia saw a national T20 cricket match cancelled due to smoke, international tennis players choking on the pollution, and sports facilities burned down around the country. A

Feb 18, 2020 • 1:03:09

53. Fire & Phoenix: A brief introduction to 2020

53. Fire & Phoenix: A brief introduction to 2020

The summer here in Australia has been witnessed by people around the world, saddened and concerned as they’ve watched this country burn and be subsequently shrouded in heavy palls of smoke. This is a brief introduction to the new year of The RegenNarration, in reference and reverence to all that has happened, and what it means from here. Title slide: Firefighters struggle against the strong wind in an effort to secure nearby houses from bushfires near the town of Nowra in the Australian state of

Feb 13, 2020 • 10:24

#052 Regenerating Society Soundtrack 2019: Highlights from our guests in 2019

#052 Regenerating Society Soundtrack 2019: Highlights from our guests in 2019

We’re signing off for the year with an episode of highlights from our brilliant array of guests throughout 2019. With sincere thanks for tuning in, continuing to share and rate the podcast, and of course for donating and supporting its production. It couldn’t happen without you. Thanks also for getting in touch throughout the year to share stories, questions and insights, and to tell us how much you’ve valued the podcast. It’s been great to see our listener numbers spike further this year, and e

Dec 12, 2019 • 25:15

#051 Farm to Plate: Regenerating a state's economy through food, land & culture, with Jake Claro

#051 Farm to Plate: Regenerating a state's economy through food, land & culture, with Jake Claro

Jake Claro is the Director of the Vermont Farm to Plate Program, widely regarded as the most comprehensive state-wide food system plan in the United States, and the only one with full government engagement. It is approaching the end of its first decade, and gearing up for the next, with a growing global reputation. The program takes a coordinated, long-term and collaborative approach with all parts of the food system - beyond a simple focus on agricultural output. Since 2010, and in the wake of

Dec 5, 2019 • 55:22

#050 Reclaiming Money, Media & Mind: Part 2 of the conversation with Hazel Henderson

#050 Reclaiming Money, Media & Mind: Part 2 of the conversation with Hazel Henderson

Welcome to episode 50 of The RegenNarration podcast! Which also commemorates the 76th anniversary of the birth of pioneering Australian systems thinker, and the man who introduced Anthony to the work of Hazel Henderson, the late Professor Frank Fisher. Fittingly then, this dual milestone episode features part 2 of Anthony’s conversation with Hazel.Hazel and Anthony delve deeper here into 3 key systems – money, media & mind – including the growing momentum behind reclaiming media and the inte

Nov 25, 2019 • 54:59

#049 Changing Paradigms Over a Lifetime, with the legendary Hazel Henderson (part 1)

#049 Changing Paradigms Over a Lifetime, with the legendary Hazel Henderson (part 1)

Hazel Henderson is a legendary author, advisor and media producer. It’s very hard to overstate the influence Hazel has had, and continues to have, throughout nearly 60 years of public life. Hazel has written 10 books, including ‘Mapping the Global Transition to the Solar Age', been translated into 27 languages across hundreds of outlets globally, won a multitude of awards, is listed in the Who’s Who in the USA, the World, in Business and Finance, and in Science and Technology, is a member o

Nov 5, 2019 • 59:44

#048 Arriving at a Wellbeing Economy: Live with Katherine Trebeck, Mike Salvaris & Carol Innes

#048 Arriving at a Wellbeing Economy: Live with Katherine Trebeck, Mike Salvaris & Carol Innes

Featuring UK-based Dr Katherine Trebeck, a central figure in the global Wellbeing Economy Alliance, and co-author of the new book ‘The Economics of Arrival: Ideas for a grown up economy’. With special guests: Mike Salvaris, director of the Australian National Development Index, and global leader in the development of wellbeing measures; and Carol Innes, local Whadjak Noongar Traditional Owner and co-chair of Reconciliation WA, successfully engaging in shifting economic development frameworks loc

Oct 24, 2019 • 52:10

#048 Extra - How To Make It Happen? Live Q&A on Arriving at a Wellbeing Economy

#048 Extra - How To Make It Happen? Live Q&A on Arriving at a Wellbeing Economy

This special extra to episode 48 features Katherine Trebeck, Mike Salvaris & Carol Innes, in live conversation with a full room at The Platform in Perth last month, launching Katherine’s new book ‘The Economics of Arrival: Ideas for a grown up economy’. We pick up the conversation on the topic of power, before opening up to a brilliant dialogue with the audience, and a series of resounding closing sentiments from each speaker. We explore the Wellbeing Economy Governments alliance, some extra

Oct 24, 2019 • 33:19

#047 Strike, Summit & Song: What difference does it make?

#047 Strike, Summit & Song: What difference does it make?

The Global Climate Strike on the 20th of September saw upwards of four million people strike worldwide. A few hundred thousand of these were in Australia, including thousands of businesses and dozens of union groups, as adults were invited to join in and support the burgeoning student movement. It was all timed to lead in to the UN Climate Action Summit a few days later, where Greta and other young leaders also had a strong presence. This episode is dedicated to taking a look at this significant

Oct 10, 2019 • 52:15

#046 Celebrating Doughnut Day! A Kate Raworth keynote on creating an economy for the 21st century

#046 Celebrating Doughnut Day! A Kate Raworth keynote on creating an economy for the 21st century

Kate Raworth’s internationally acclaimed idea of Doughnut Economics has been widely influential amongst sustainable development thinkers, progressive businesses and political activists, and she has presented it to audiences ranging from the UN General Assembly to the Occupy movement. The Guardian even named her as “one of the top ten tweeters on economic transformation”. And last Tuesday Kate tweeted pictures of the world’s first City Doughnut Day in Philadelphia, advising they are “plotting a t

Sep 26, 2019 • 51:06

#045 Extra - Q&A on Economic Growth To Save the Planet?

#045 Extra - Q&A on Economic Growth To Save the Planet?

This is a special extra to episode 45 with Jan Owen, Ian Dunlop and Miriam Lyons. Here’s the rest of the powerful conversation between our panellists and the capacity audience of 300 people at the 2016 National Sustainable Living Festival in Melbourne, Australia. Title slide pic: NASA, from the ABC website. Find more:Listen to the main episode.Send us a textSupport the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free and freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like yo

Sep 12, 2019 • 29:24

#045. Economic Growth To Save the Planet? Live panel event with Ian Dunlop, Miriam Lyons & Jan Owen AM

#045. Economic Growth To Save the Planet? Live panel event with Ian Dunlop, Miriam Lyons & Jan Owen AM

Economic growth is stagnating, hitting up against a range of limits. Last week’s news that GDP growth in Australia is at its lowest since the GFC, with interest rates already at an unprecedented low of 1% (they are negative in many places around the world), emphasises what is increasingly apparent to people around the world – the old model isn’t working, and it’s not coming back. So what’s the future of the growth-based system, and how do we transition to a new model of work, business and econom

Sep 12, 2019 • 49:56

#044 Extra - The back story, politics of change, and a ‘do-able plan’, with David Pollock

#044 Extra - The back story, politics of change, and a ‘do-able plan’, with David Pollock

This special extra to podcast 44 delves further into the back story to Wooleen Station and the rangelands, and those questions around meat production and consumption. From there David and Anthony talk about the at times extraordinary politics at play, why we the public are central to all this, and above all, what Major General Michael Jeffery, the former Governor-General of Australia, calls David’s master class and do-able plan. Title slide: the Nationally Important Wooleen Lake (pic: Anthony Ja

Aug 22, 2019 • 26:16

#044 The Wooleen Way: David Pollock on life, letting go & renewing our most vital resource

#044 The Wooleen Way: David Pollock on life, letting go & renewing our most vital resource

David Pollock is one of Australia’s most prominent regenerative pastoralists, and he’s now the author of a new book that’s been described as ‘The astonishing story of reviving the oldest land on Earth’. It’s called ‘The Wooleen Way: Renewing an Australian Resource’. Many Aussies will have seen David and his wife Frances on ABC TV’s Australian Story. They’ve appeared four times so far, such is the way their story has captivated the country. They’ve also been guests twice on this podcast. This tim

Aug 22, 2019 • 52:09

#043 Will the Real Sharing Economy Please Stand Up? With Darren Sharp, Lizette Salmon & Jose Ramos

#043 Will the Real Sharing Economy Please Stand Up? With Darren Sharp, Lizette Salmon & Jose Ramos

The sharing economy is a phenomenon. But what is it exactly? The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission says it “connects consumers to people who have products or services to sell, hire or lease via an online platform.” And “It includes services such as Airbnb and Uber.” But the folk at the heart of the sharing economy call that commerce – and in some cases, mere extensions of the current extractive economy that is driving us into multiple crises. Last year Anthony hosted the launch of a

Aug 7, 2019 • 41:37

#042 The Most Powerful Solution to Climate Change: Karen O’Brien on people, systems & consciousness

#042 The Most Powerful Solution to Climate Change: Karen O’Brien on people, systems & consciousness

The first guest we ever had on this podcast, the former Wall St executive John Fullerton, made reference again this week to “John Elkington's product recall“ on a term he coined 25 years ago – ‘triple bottom line’. It reflects, he said, “the growing consensus that sustainability in business is not working. Instead, the chorus for systemic transformation is growing.” Our guest this week is Professor Karen O’Brien, and she has spent decades exploring and assisting people in just this. Karen i

Jul 25, 2019 • 59:51

#041 Playing for Team Human: All hands on deck for the Renaissance, with Douglas Rushkoff

#041 Playing for Team Human: All hands on deck for the Renaissance, with Douglas Rushkoff

Douglas Rushkoff has been recognised as one of the “world’s ten most influential intellectuals” by MIT. Many of you will know him from the popular Team Human podcast, which has led to this award-winning, best-selling author writing the Team Human book. And frankly, it’s a little masterpiece. Comprehensive, readable and vital, it’s a manifesto for reclaiming our humanity in the digital age. Walter Isaacson calls it “A provocative, exciting, and important rallying cry to reassert our human spirit

Jul 9, 2019 • 56:27

#040 Love-Bombing the Government: And how it transformed a state, with Dr Emma Lee

#040 Love-Bombing the Government: And how it transformed a state, with Dr Emma Lee

There are some extraordinary changes happening in Australia’s southern-most state, and Dr Emma Lee has been at the heart of it – literally and figuratively. Emma is an Indigenous trawlwulwuy woman from tebrakunna country, north-east Tasmania, and is a widely awarded scholar and community leader. The article Emma recently wrote for the ABC was titled, ‘We 'love-bombed' the Tasmanian government to win Indigenous rights.’ The list of changes achieved by Emma, her community and their gover

Jun 25, 2019 • 48:46

#039 Stop Riding the Unicorn: Empowering the regenerative agriculture movement, with David McLean

#039 Stop Riding the Unicorn: Empowering the regenerative agriculture movement, with David McLean

If you followed our travels last year, you will have heard a number of remarkable stories of pastoralists and farmers bringing land and people back to life. In some cases, their situations had become dire, and land turned to dust. Wherever we went, an organisation called RCS Australia came up in conversation. So we visited them late last year in Yeppoon, Queensland, and had the pleasure to meet legendary founder Terry McCosker and his team. Charles Massy calls RCS one of the key training groups

Jun 11, 2019 • 50:25

#038 A Regeneration Movement: Q&A at the premiere of 2040, with Damon Gameau & Julie Leslie

#038 A Regeneration Movement: Q&A at the premiere of 2040, with Damon Gameau & Julie Leslie

Damon Gameau has received multiple standing ovations around the world as he has accompanied the premiere screenings of his visionary documentary film ‘2040’. You might remember our first conversation on this podcast last year, as the film was being finished. This time we’re joined by a wonderfully engaged cinema audience, and special guest Julie Leslie, the impressive editor of Circular Style – a magazine about sustainable, conscious, and circular fashion.What resulted was a fascinating sense of

May 28, 2019 • 44:37

#037 Solve Everything at Once: Nora Bateson on systems thinking, warm data & singing out loud

#037 Solve Everything at Once: Nora Bateson on systems thinking, warm data & singing out loud

Nora Bateson is an award-winning filmmaker, writer and educator. She wrote, directed and produced the beautiful documentary, ‘An Ecology of Mind: A daughter’s portrait of Gregory Bateson’ - perhaps the world’s most renowned pioneer of systems thinking. And she has most recently developed the vital concept of ‘warm data’ – breathing life back into the deeply problematic phenomenon of ‘big data’. In a recent conversation with Douglas Rushkoff on the Team Human podcast, Nora said we need to solve e

May 21, 2019 • 58:37

#036 Local is the New Black: The new economics of place, with Michael Shuman

#036 Local is the New Black: The new economics of place, with Michael Shuman

Michael Shuman is an economist, lawyer, author, entrepreneur, and globally recognised expert on community economics. He is also one of the architects of the crowdfunding reforms that became the “JOBS Act,” signed into law by President Obama in April 2012. Michael is re-writing the story of business and development, to one that makes much more sense if your interest is in creating more prosperous, equitable and regenerative societies. It all revolves around local business. And moving away from th

May 9, 2019 • 23:51

#035 Come of Age: The case for elderhood in a time of trouble, with author Stephen Jenkinson

#035 Come of Age: The case for elderhood in a time of trouble, with author Stephen Jenkinson

Welcome to episode 35 of this podcast, the first since we changed name from Rescope Radio to The RegenNarration. We’re launching with this special conversation featuring Stephen Jenkinson, an internationally distinguished culture activist, teacher, ceremonialist, author and farmer. He’s currently touring with his new book 'Come of Age: The Case for Elderhood in a Time of Trouble'.Eldership is such a vital part of human life – of human cultures – and lost to our peril. It’s been a recur

Apr 23, 2019 • 1:00:47

We're Changing Name - from Rescope Radio to The RegenNarration

We're Changing Name - from Rescope Radio to The RegenNarration

Today we have a special announcement. The Rescope Radio podcast is about to sprout into an independent production called The RegenNarration. Over the last year in particular, the podcast has found an increasing number of you listening, supporting and corresponding about how much you’ve been appreciating the conversations. So we’re going to dedicate more time to the podcast this year, as it becomes an independent venture, and hope you’ll join us on the journey. To do that, of course, simply follo

Apr 17, 2019 • 4:25

#034 Extra - That Common Ground: Q&A after the film with Albert Wiggan & Narelda Jacobs

#034 Extra - That Common Ground: Q&A after the film with Albert Wiggan & Narelda Jacobs

Feel the energy in the room with this special extra, as we hear Albert in a Q&A session after the West Australian premiere screening of ‘Undermined: Tales from the Kimberley’. The session was hosted by Narelda Jacobs, local Noongar woman and the first Aboriginal female newsreader to anchor a leading commercial station’s news service in Australia. Albert talks further here about what the Kimberley means to him, how people can get involved in creating the dialogue he’s inviting, and how he fee

Mar 5, 2019 • 20:30

#034 Undermined: Award-winning documentary from the Kimberley, with Aboriginal leader Albert Wiggan

#034 Undermined: Award-winning documentary from the Kimberley, with Aboriginal leader Albert Wiggan

Listeners last year might remember our series produced on location in the spectacular Kimberley region of Western Australia. This year, the Kimberley is coming to us – through an award-winning documentary film that premiered nationwide in February. It’s called Undermined: Tales from the Kimberley. Australia’s vast Kimberley region is under threat, with the ‘old industrial’ model of mining, pastoralism and irrigated agriculture driving an unprecedented land grab. The film investigates the politic

Mar 5, 2019 • 31:59

#033 Regenerating Society Soundtrack 2018: Highlights from our guests in 2018

#033 Regenerating Society Soundtrack 2018: Highlights from our guests in 2018

We’re signing off for the year with an episode of highlights from our wonderful array of guests throughout 2018. With sincere thanks for tuning in, continuing to share and rate the podcast, and of course for donating and supporting its production. It couldn’t happen without you. Thanks also for getting in touch throughout the year to tell us how much you’ve valued the podcast, and what you’d like to hear in future. It’s been great to see our listener numbers spike this year, and even more fulfil

Dec 13, 2018 • 10:32

#032 Extra - Cultivating Regeneration from Industrial Wastelands, with Charles Massy AO

#032 Extra - Cultivating Regeneration from Industrial Wastelands, with Charles Massy AO

In this special extra, Charles Massy lends a little more context to his work, including an exploration of the roots of the industrial agriculture system and its effects on people, land and the rest of the living world. Within that, the conversation pays particular attention to some of the astounding new developments around the notorious glyphosate-based herbicide RoundUp. It goes on to try to make more sense of why humankind has ended up where we are today, and of course how we can harness this

Dec 6, 2018 • 21:28

#032 An Underground Insurgency: Regenerative Agriculture & Human Transformation, with Charles Massy

#032 An Underground Insurgency: Regenerative Agriculture & Human Transformation, with Charles Massy

Charles Massy has become an extraordinary hub of knowledge, wisdom and stories of regeneration. Specifically in regenerative agriculture, and alongside that, the art of human transformation. His latest book 'Call of the Reed Warbler’ continues to make an enormous impact in Australia, and Charles has just embarked on an overseas tour behind the release of an updated international edition. Paul Hawken appears on the inside sleeve, saying this about the book:“Charles Massy has written a defini

Dec 6, 2018 • 53:20

#031 Reimagining Society: A conversation with legendary social researcher Hugh Mackay

#031 Reimagining Society: A conversation with legendary social researcher Hugh Mackay

Hugh Mackay is Australia’s preeminent social researcher, and a prolific bestselling author. He has spent sixty years speaking with people in their homes and workplaces, reflecting back to us key insights about who we are – and why we are the way we are. So it’s fair to say he knows a thing or two about what we’re like, and by extension how we might best get ourselves through this time of significant transition. Hugh’s latest book is Australia Reimagined. And while focused on this country, it ver

Nov 20, 2018 • 46:47

#030 2040 Vision: On climate change, fear & loathing, with Damon Gameau, maker of ‘That Sugar Film’

#030 2040 Vision: On climate change, fear & loathing, with Damon Gameau, maker of ‘That Sugar Film’

Paul Hawken describes Damon Gameau as an ‘extraordinary artist, visionary, storyteller, and craftsman of the future.’ Damon is the creator of That Sugar Film - the record-breaking, award-winning documentary that, through its extraordinary success, became That Sugar Movement. Damon’s now turned his attention to climate change, with his next film '2040' coming out next year. He met up with Anthony a few weeks ago just after 2040 had been completed.2040 is described as an aspirational fil

Nov 14, 2018 • 41:07

#029 Launching the Wellbeing Economy Alliance, with Research Director Dr Katherine Trebeck

#029 Launching the Wellbeing Economy Alliance, with Research Director Dr Katherine Trebeck

Last month saw the 10th anniversary of the Lehman Brothers collapse that triggered the GFC. It was a fitting occasion to launch a new global alliance on the streets of New York City - the Wellbeing Economy Alliance, poetically abbreviated to WEAll. The Alliance has come about through a collaboration of some of the most influential and inspiring figures in this space. One of them is Dr Katherine Trebeck, the Alliance’s Research Director. She’s also an author, with her new book out next year, ‘The

Oct 31, 2018 • 51:16

#028 Transforming Food, Finance & Society, with Food Connect's Rob Pekin & Emma-Kate Rose

#028 Transforming Food, Finance & Society, with Food Connect's Rob Pekin & Emma-Kate Rose

Today we feature an Australian first, in an area that is developing fast globally, and potentially helping to redefine how money, business and the economy work. It’s called equity crowdfunding. It’s based on the crowdfunding model most of us are probably familiar with, though here it’s used to raise investment capital. The federal legislation for this is new in Australia, and Food Connect seeks to become the first social enterprise in this country – or as they would say, ‘systems enterprise’ - t

Oct 16, 2018 • 56:41

#027 Regenerating the Never Never, with holistic management pioneer Moira Lanzarin

#027 Regenerating the Never Never, with holistic management pioneer Moira Lanzarin

This unique region of Australia is famous for its ancient land and culture, luminous hot springs, and the best-selling book by Jeannie Gunn 'We of the Never Never'. It’s also developing renown for being an engine room for regenerating land, food and related systems. Moira Lanzarin is a business woman, an artist, a mother, and a leader in the regenerative agriculture movement. She’s been central to the introduction of Holistic Management in the Northern Territory of Australia, as Direct

Oct 11, 2018 • 33:43

#026 Critical Parameters for the New Economy, keynotes by Ian Lowe & Mary Graham

#026 Critical Parameters for the New Economy, keynotes by Ian Lowe & Mary Graham

The 2nd National New Economy conference in Australia began with a couple of witty and profound keynote addresses. Together, Professor Ian Lowe and Aboriginal elder Dr Mary Graham craft a deft balance between gravity and levity, authority and guidance, and everyday language with a breadth of insight that genuinely captivates. Ian is an Order of Australia medal winner, former President of the Australian Conservation Foundation, and author of over 20 books. He talks of current trajectories and patt

Sep 26, 2018 • 41:10

#025 Extra 2 - The Kachana Back-Story. With Chris Henggeler at the homestead

#025 Extra 2 - The Kachana Back-Story. With Chris Henggeler at the homestead

Due to the popularity of  episode 25, and the fact that we hated editing this part out of the main episode to begin with, here’s Chris talking with Anthony back at the homestead about the back-story to Kachana. They explore Chris’s formative beginnings in Rhodesia, how the family came to acquire this disused part of the famed El Questro, and the personal changes that were needed for the great successes at Kachana to be realised. And just in case the wind played too much havoc with our recording

Sep 20, 2018 • 30:58

#025 Extra - Creating the Kachana Vision, with Jacqueline Henggeler

#025 Extra - Creating the Kachana Vision, with Jacqueline Henggeler

The story of Kachana Station and its success is steeped in a family’s adventure. Jacqueline Henggeler is the Swiss paediatric nurse who joined Chris in the remote East Kimberley with their 3 children, to follow a vision for living together as a family on the land. It has been rich, and challenging. From sleeping in the back of a ute in the early days, to home schooling, to facing down the deep trials of life, she has ultimately revelled in a path less travelled. Jacqui’s insights on the broader

Sep 13, 2018 • 27:37

#025 The New Megafauna: The key to our future prosperity? With Chris Henggeler from Kachana Station

#025 The New Megafauna: The key to our future prosperity? With Chris Henggeler from Kachana Station

Can the new mega-fauna regenerate land and water systems, take away the need for systematic fire regimes and culling programs, and ultimately be the key to our future prosperity?Kachana is a remote station in the East Kimberley region of Western Australia, accessible only by plane or foot. Chris Henggeler and his family have run it for over a generation now. From the early days sleeping in the back of a ute, they set about living a vision for a healthy family life on the land, while regenerating

Sep 13, 2018 • 55:05

#024 The Wilderness Within: Professor Frank Fisher in conversation with broadcaster Robyn Williams

#024 The Wilderness Within: Professor Frank Fisher in conversation with broadcaster Robyn Williams

The late Professor Frank Fisher was a pioneering systems thinker and Australia’s Inaugural Environmental Educator of the Year. He died 6 years ago today. To celebrate his life and insight, we’ve delved into the archives and found this wonderful conversation Frank had with a man who has been described as a legend of science broadcasting, Robyn Williams. This is no mild walk down memory lane. Their conversation, recorded in 2002, has almost uncanny relevance to so much of what’s happening in the w

Aug 21, 2018 • 19:36

#023 Renewable Energy & Beyond: How do we transition to a renewable society? Feat. Richard Heinberg

#023 Renewable Energy & Beyond: How do we transition to a renewable society? Feat. Richard Heinberg

The Economist reports that despite increasing public concern, and renewable power now costing less than coal in some places, rising energy demand means our use of fossil fuels is heading in the wrong direction. Meanwhile, climate calamities, once considered freakish, are now commonplace. All this emphasises the value and importance of this panel conversation. Globally renowned energy expert Richard Heinberg joined us online from the USA, alongside one of Australia’s most incisive minds in energy

Aug 7, 2018 • 1:03:13

#022 After James Price Point: History Repeating or Watershed, with EK Director Martin Pritchard

#022 After James Price Point: History Repeating or Watershed, with EK Director Martin Pritchard

Martin Pritchard is Executive Director of Environs Kimberley (EK). He and his team were central to the successful campaign to prevent what could have been the largest LNG plant in the world, at James Price Point (Walmadan) just north of Broome. It was a celebrated outcome around the country, but in many ways was just the tip of the iceberg of ‘old industry’ plans for the region. With 40,000+ fracking wells slated for the area, is the future to be an endless succession of ‘James Price Points’? Or

Jul 24, 2018 • 45:34

#021 Waking Up The Snake: New economy, country & consciousness, with Indigenous leader Anne Poelina

#021 Waking Up The Snake: New economy, country & consciousness, with Indigenous leader Anne Poelina

This is a very special episode celebrating NAIDOC Week in Australia. Dr Anne Poelina is a Nyikina Traditional Custodian from the Mardoowarra, Lower Fitzroy River, in the West Kimberley region of Western Australia. And if anywhere epitomizes the critical time we’re in, it’s in the spectacular cultural and natural landscapes of her homeland. Almost incredibly, there are 40,000+ fracking wells slated for this area, along with the damming of the Fitzroy River, and more ‘old-model’ industrial agricul

Jul 11, 2018 • 45:53

#020 Regenerating Democracy: A panel event with Dr John Hewson, Mary Crooks AO & Chloe Aldenhoven

#020 Regenerating Democracy: A panel event with Dr John Hewson, Mary Crooks AO & Chloe Aldenhoven

An audience of over 200 people joined Dr John Hewson, former federal opposition leader; Mary Crooks AO, Executive Director of the Victorian Women’s Trust; and Chloe Aldenhoven, co-convenor of the Lock The Gate Alliance - which Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews recently called "the greatest political coalition we have seen in public policy for a very long time." Hosted by James Tonson.The panel explores some of the ideas and spectacular success stories of communities coming together to r

Jun 20, 2018 • 1:00:31

#019 A Global Movement Sweeping the Plains: A conversation with Evan Pensini

#019 A Global Movement Sweeping the Plains: A conversation with Evan Pensini

Evan Pensini is a pastoralist from the remote Pilbara region of Western Australia, on Cheela Plains Station. He and his wife Robin are pulling off some remarkable regeneration of country there, significantly defying official expectations of just how far and fast this land could recover its health and productivity. So how does the system work, particularly in Australia where hooved animals weren't part of its pre-colonial history? Why don't more pastoralists adopt these methods? What&ap

Jun 7, 2018 • 42:29

#018 Protecting Ningaloo: with marine scientist, mother & unlikely campaign leader, Denise Fitch

#018 Protecting Ningaloo: with marine scientist, mother & unlikely campaign leader, Denise Fitch

Denise Fitch is a nurse, mum, marine scientist & unlikely leader of the Protect Ningaloo campaign – possibly the next big flashpoint in Australia, as we continue to grapple with transitioning from the dominant extractive, fossil fuel driven model of development, to the next ‘regenerative’ one. Denise is Chair of the Cape Conservation Group – the local group at the heart of the Protect Ningaloo campaign. She sat under a tree by Exmouth Gulf with host Anthony James to talk about the meaning of

May 23, 2018 • 18:34

#017 Putting It All On The Line: A conversation with author & National Living Treasure, Tim Winton

#017 Putting It All On The Line: A conversation with author & National Living Treasure, Tim Winton

This special podcast features one of Australia’s great writers, National Living Treasure, and reluctant activist, Tim Winton, direct from the World Heritage Listed Ningaloo Reef in Western Australia.Tim has again donated his prize money from a recent literature award to help launch a campaign to protect this area, called Protect Ningaloo. He has also been touring the country extensively with the publication of his brilliant new novel, The Shepherd’s Hut.Along the way, he’s been talking a lot abo

May 8, 2018 • 41:00

#016 Grassroots Revolution: Radical experiments regenerating land & life

#016 Grassroots Revolution: Radical experiments regenerating land & life

Over 250 people filled The Dome at the recent National Sustainable Living Festival for this feature forum hosted by Anthony James, with special guests Frances Jones & David Pollock from Wooleen Station, and regenerative farmer Charles Massy AO. Frances Jones and David Pollock’s radical project to remove income-earning livestock from their historic property, in remote Western Australia, shocked their entire district, and has gone on to produce remarkable results. Charles Massy's ground-b

Apr 26, 2018 • 59:37

#015 Paul Hawken's Powerful Keynote on Project Drawdown: At the 2018 National SLF Festival Australia

#015 Paul Hawken's Powerful Keynote on Project Drawdown: At the 2018 National SLF Festival Australia

Following on from our 2-part series in conversation with Paul Hawken, here is his sold out keynote address and Q&A from the recent National Sustainable Living Festival.​It's hard to overstate the significance of Project Drawdown. There hasn't previously been anything like it. So this keynote packed a real punch.​ It builds on a scathing critique of science communication, 'big agriculture', and the limitations of the Al Gore and Elon Musk phenomena, to present a comprehens

Apr 3, 2018 • 56:49

#014 Paul Hawken in Conversation Part 2: Project Drawdown, 100 solutions to reverse global warming

#014 Paul Hawken in Conversation Part 2: Project Drawdown, 100 solutions to reverse global warming

This is part 2 of our special podcast series in conversation with Paul Hawken. This part is on Drawdown – 100 solutions to reverse global warming. This is Paul’s latest best-selling book, and the Project that’s taking off at an incredible rate around the world.Anthony and Paul talk about some of the key patterns that emerged as the book was pulled together, various insights on framing, the new economy, inequality, consumerism and growth, and ultimately how we see ourselves in the world, and what

Mar 20, 2018 • 48:53

#013 Extra - A Reading on the Wilderness Within, with Paul Hawken

#013 Extra - A Reading on the Wilderness Within, with Paul Hawken

In our conversation for episode 13, Paul refers to almost wanting to read us a passage he once wrote. Afterwards, we kept recording while he gathered the book and read.Music:Gone Clear, by William Tyler off his album Modern Country.Find more:You can hear the rest of our conversation in the main episode.Send us a textSupport the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free and freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please

Mar 13, 2018 • 4:33

#013 Paul Hawken in Conversation Part 1: His life, the growing movement & human change

#013 Paul Hawken in Conversation Part 1: His life, the growing movement & human change

To kick off 2018, we have a special 2-part podcast with Paul Hawken. Paul continues to influence heads of state, CEOs, activists & people from all walks right around the world. He was in Australia for a few weeks in February touring new best-seller 'Drawdown: The most comprehensive plan ever proposed to reverse global warming' & was kind enough to spend some time with Anthony for this in-depth conversation.This resulted in a special opportunity to explore not just Drawdown (in

Mar 13, 2018 • 47:42

#012 Regenerating Society Soundtrack 2017: Highlights from our guests in 2017

#012 Regenerating Society Soundtrack 2017: Highlights from our guests in 2017

Here's a little something to spur your mood for change through the festive season - highlights from our soulful and eclectic mix of brilliant guests this year. We've put the lot together for our 12th and final podcast for 2017. You could think of it as our Regenerating Society Soundtrack.​With thanks for tuning in this year, have a wonderful festive season and we look forward to joining you in many more inspiring transitions in 2018.Here's the 'track list' for our 2017 s

Dec 14, 2017 • 8:47

#011 Regional Transitions: Stories of transition in progress

#011 Regional Transitions: Stories of transition in progress

This was one of the most compelling dialogues generated out of the Ecocity World Summit in Melbourne recently. A seven-person panel explored a number of powerful stories of transition across regional Victoria, Australia, with themes echoing experiences all over the country and the world. Our seven panelists feature:Dr Nick Aberle, Environment Victoria’s Acting CEO at the time (starts at 2 mins 30);Wendy Farmer & Ron Ipsen, President & Vice-President of Voices of the Valley, an award-winn

Dec 5, 2017 • 1:27:32

#011 Preview - Regional Transitions: Stories of transition in progress

#011 Preview - Regional Transitions: Stories of transition in progress

Next up is one of the most compelling dialogues generated out of the Ecocity World Summit in Melbourne recently. A seven-person panel explored powerful stories of transition across regional Victoria, Australia, with themes echoing experiences all over the country and the world. Here's a preview, featuring the voice of Ron Ipsen from Voices of the Valley, an award-winning advocacy group in the 'coal communities' of the Latrobe Valley.Send us a textSupport the showThe RegenNarration

Dec 5, 2017 • 0:18

#010 Preview - Rescoping Progress & the Good Life

#010 Preview - Rescoping Progress & the Good Life

Next up - we’ve had a few people ask to hear more about The Rescope Project. So we’ve turned the tables in our latest podcast. This time, we’re the guests - in conversation with radio show host, regenerative farmer & good food advocate, Cynthia Lim. Here's a preview.Send us a textSupport the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free and freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, please consider joining them. Dona

Nov 16, 2017 • 0:30

#010 Rescoping Progress & the Good Life: Anthony James & Keith Badger hosted by Cynthia Lim

#010 Rescoping Progress & the Good Life: Anthony James & Keith Badger hosted by Cynthia Lim

We’ve had a few people ask to hear more about us, so today we’re turning the tables. This time, we’re the guests - in conversation with radio show host, regenerative farmer and good food advocate, Cynthia Lim, at Seymour FM.Cynthia and her partner Nick have left the ‘rat race’ and set up a regenerative farm and stay operation together in Seymour - about 100 k’s north of Melbourne. When Cynthia got wind we were coming through her neck of the woods on our way to the New Economy Conference recently

Nov 14, 2017 • 40:23

#009 Regenerating Land & Food Systems: A conversation with Frances Jones from remote Wooleen Station

#009 Regenerating Land & Food Systems: A conversation with Frances Jones from remote Wooleen Station

“Cattle, sheep, prosperity, first Australians, land on a knife edge, the politics of food and a struggle for future sustainability. An outback eco-tourism experiment that challenges a hundred years of European orthodoxy.” That’s from the flyer at the remote Wooleen Station, where David Pollock and Frances Jones have radically destocked the land to regenerate it, after more than a century of degradation. Despite a moving story of nearly going broke, dealing with out-dated laws, and the politics a

Nov 1, 2017 • 57:36

#009 Preview - Regenerating Land & Food Systems with Frances Jones from Wooleen Station

#009 Preview - Regenerating Land & Food Systems with Frances Jones from Wooleen Station

“Cattle, sheep, prosperity, first Australians, land on a knife edge, the politics of food and a struggle for future sustainability. An outback eco-tourism experiment that challenges a hundred years of European orthodoxy.” That’s from the flyer at the remote Wooleen Station, where David Pollock and Frances Jones have radically destocked the land to regenerate it, after more than a century of degradation. Despite a moving story of nearly going broke, dealing with out-dated laws, and the politics a

Oct 31, 2017 • 0:28

#008 A Greater Purpose: A conversation with former Australian Liberal Party leader John Hewson

#008 A Greater Purpose: A conversation with former Australian Liberal Party leader John Hewson

Today we’re featuring a conversation with one of the world’s most prominent political elders - former Australian Federal Liberal Party leader, and now Professorial Fellow at the Australian National University, John Hewson. In recent years, John has become an increasingly admired figure across the political spectrum, as a powerful advocate for more leadership, transparency, responsible investment, and evidence-based policy. This is particularly in the context of the inter-related global challenge

Oct 17, 2017 • 39:21

#008 Preview - Former Australian Federal Liberal Party leader Dr John Hewson

#008 Preview - Former Australian Federal Liberal Party leader Dr John Hewson

Next up is a bloke who's become one of the world's most prominent political elders & an increasingly admired figure across the political spectrum, Dr John Hewson. This in-depth & personal conversation features John's proposals for change, experiences of dealing with vested interests, the great potential of the youth vote in particular, and also of a broad movement based on a greater sense of purpose.Send us a textSupport the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, a

Oct 16, 2017 • 0:24

#007 Ecological Economics: A conversation with renowned systems thinker Professor Robert Costanza

#007 Ecological Economics: A conversation with renowned systems thinker Professor Robert Costanza

Robert Costanza is one of the world's most accomplished and decorated systems thinkers & ‘ecological economists’. Having moved to Australia five years ago, he’s now a Professor and Vice Chancellor’s Chair at the Australian National University’s Crawford School of Public Policy. So it was great to have an opportunity to meet Bob in person and hear some of his fascinating story, recent work, sense of hope, and what he thinks we still need to do to set ourselves towards a sustainable and d

Sep 20, 2017 • 27:43

#007 Preview - World-renowned systems thinker & ecological economist Professor Robert Costanza

#007 Preview - World-renowned systems thinker & ecological economist Professor Robert Costanza

Next up is Professor Robert Costanza, one of the world's most accomplished and decorated systems thinkers & ‘ecological economists’. Hear some of his fascinating story, recent work, sense of hope, and what he thinks we still need to do to set ourselves towards a sustainable and desirable future.Send us a textSupport the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free & freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you. If you too value what you hear, plea

Sep 19, 2017 • 0:23

#006 Redefining Progress: Live panel event with Tim Costello, Melissa Weinberg & Mike Salvaris

#006 Redefining Progress: Live panel event with Tim Costello, Melissa Weinberg & Mike Salvaris

Today we’re featuring not one, but a number of special guests from a public conversation Anthony hosted earlier this year, on how we go about the much-needed tasks of redefining our notion of progress - and developing new ways to measure it. The panel was joined by a full house of around 300 people, together generating one of our most compelling public forums to date. Tim Costello AO is Chief Advocate for World Vision and one of Australia’s most recognised voices on social justice, leadership an

Jul 27, 2017 • 1:16:02

#006 Preview - Panel on Redefining Progress - Tim Costello, Dr Melissa Weinberg & Dr Mike Salvaris

#006 Preview - Panel on Redefining Progress - Tim Costello, Dr Melissa Weinberg & Dr Mike Salvaris

Next up is a live panel discussion Anthony hosted earlier this year, on how we go about the much-needed tasks of redefining our notion of progress - and developing new ways to measure it. Tim Costello is Chief Advocate for World Vision and one of Australia’s most recognised voices on social justice, leadership and ethics. Dr Melissa Weinberg is a TEDx Speaker and well-known wellbeing researcher, who led the research for the Australian Unity Wellbeing Index. And Dr Mike Salvaris is co-founder of

Jul 26, 2017 • 0:16

#005 Thinking & Living in Systems: With pioneering systems thinker, the late Professor Frank Fisher

#005 Thinking & Living in Systems: With pioneering systems thinker, the late Professor Frank Fisher

The late Professor Frank Fisher was a pioneering systems thinker and Australia’s Inaugural Environmental Educator of the Year. A couple of months ago, Anthony received a copy of an interview with Frank that was originally broadcast on SBS Radio here in Australia back in 1999. Perhaps some of you heard it at the time. For those who didn't (which included Anthony, who was to meet Frank the following year), this was a great surprise – one we are keen to share in turn. Captured in this short in

Jul 11, 2017 • 17:08

#005 Preview - Pioneering systems thinker & Rescope Project founder, the late Professor Frank Fisher

#005 Preview - Pioneering systems thinker & Rescope Project founder, the late Professor Frank Fisher

Next up is the late Professor Frank Fisher, pioneering systems thinker and Australia’s Inaugural Environmental Educator of the Year. This interview gives a sense of what made Frank such a highly respected figure. There's a grounded humanity and possibility in how he talks, and how he lived. The title of his anthology, ‘Response Ability’, conveys this message succinctly - that the changes we need are within our reach.Send us a textSupport the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad

Jul 10, 2017 • 0:26

#004 Building the New Economy: A conversation with national convenor Dr Michelle Maloney

#004 Building the New Economy: A conversation with national convenor Dr Michelle Maloney

Dr Michelle Maloney is the national convenor and co-founder of the Australian Earth Laws Alliance, and the developing New Economy Network Australia. Both are strongly connected with fast-growing global movements, and a burgeoning mix of initiatives on the ground. All this has inspired a rapidly growing convergence on the 2nd New Economy conference coming up in Brisbane in September, to formalise the network and its strategies for regenerating the systems and stories we live by. Hear Michelle tal

Jun 29, 2017 • 31:35

#004 Preview - National Convenor & co-founder of the New Economy Network Australia, Michelle Maloney

#004 Preview - National Convenor & co-founder of the New Economy Network Australia, Michelle Maloney

Next up is Dr Michelle Maloney, national convenor of the New Economy Network Australia & the Australian Earth Laws Alliance. Hear about these fast-growing networks, the upcoming 'new economy fiesta' (aka the Building a New Economy for Australia Conference, 1-3 September), and the potential in all this for helping us transition to a just, sustainable & flourishing society.Send us a textSupport the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free and freely available, thank

Jun 26, 2017 • 0:13

#003 Doughnut Economics: A conversation with Kate Raworth, systems thinker & new best-selling author

#003 Doughnut Economics: A conversation with Kate Raworth, systems thinker & new best-selling author

Kate Raworth is one of the world's most brilliant and needed systems thinkers. Her new book 'Doughnut Economics: Seven Ways to Think Like a 21st-Century Economist' is already a best-seller and has been described by George Monbiot as 'brilliant, thrilling and revolutionary'. Tim Jackson, the author of Prosperity Without Growth, says it ‘reclaims economics from the dust of academia.’ Indeed, Kate initially walked away from economics due to the disconnect between how it was

Jun 15, 2017 • 47:42

#003 Preview - Brilliant systems thinker & new best-selling author Kate Raworth

#003 Preview - Brilliant systems thinker & new best-selling author Kate Raworth

Here's a preview of our next guest, Kate Raworth. She is one of the world's most brilliant and needed systems thinkers. Her new book 'Doughnut Economics: Seven Ways to Think Like a 21st-Century Economist' is already a best-seller and has been described by George Monbiot as 'brilliant, thrilling and revolutionary'.Send us a textSupport the showThe RegenNarration podcast is independent, ad-free and freely available, thanks to the generous support of listeners like you

Jun 14, 2017 • 0:16

#002 A New Economy: A conversation with Trevor Meier, award-winning film-maker

#002 A New Economy: A conversation with Trevor Meier, award-winning film-maker

Trevor Meier is an award-winning documentary film-maker, photographer, and story-teller. His latest film, ‘A New Economy’, has been a popular feature on the global festival circuit, including nationally in Australia as part of the Transitions Film Festival. It’s a terrific documentary - much-needed, beautifully produced, and featuring a range of insightful people and projects to fire our imaginations, open our view of the world, and sure up our courage to experiment with new ways of doing things

May 30, 2017 • 39:30

#001 Regenerative Economics: A conversation with John Fullerton, founder of the Capital Institute

#001 Regenerative Economics: A conversation with John Fullerton, founder of the Capital Institute

Welcome to our first episode, featuring an extensive, personal and inspiring conversation between host Anthony James and John Fullerton, the former Wall Street executive who became the founding President of The Capital Institute, a non-profit organisation working to change our 'broken' economic and financial systems. John’s a former Managing Director of 'the old' JP Morgan, as he puts it, and now founding President of the Capital Institute, a non-profit organisation in the US

May 13, 2017 • 46:55

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