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Dr. Michael Bays & Dr. Patrick Bays
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081 – Partner with the Great Unknown with Dr. Ann Marie Chiasson
I’m Dr. Michael Bays. In this episode, I have a conversation with Dr. Ann Marie Chiasson, the Fellowship Director of the Andrew Weil Fellowship of Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona. I met Ann Marie back in 2008, when I was a fellow. We became fast friends because we both were interested in Shamanism,…
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080 – The Tao of Daniele Bolelli
We are back with a conversation with Daniele Bolelli. If you don’t know Daniele, he is a writer, martial artist, university professor, and podcaster. He was born in Italy and currently lives in Los Angeles. He is the author of several books, including On the Warrior’s Path, Second Edition: Philosophy, Fighting, and Martial Arts Mythology,…
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079 – Acting As A Life Skill With Steve Anderson
Steve Anderson is an actor, director, coach, and acting teacher. He’s taught Michael about awareness, relaxation, presence, appreciation, focus, listening, and stillness. Consciously practicing these techniques has made him a better speaker with no panic attacks, a better doctor, and a better husband and father. Relationships have also improved, and it’s become easier to achieve…
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078 – The Importance of Living a Sacred Life
Do you know what the word shamanism means? Listen as your host, Dr. Michael Bays, and his guest Nick Breeze Wood discuss shamanism and the difference between shamanism and animism. Nick shares how old he was when he noticed that he was different, how his family reacted, and how his mentors and teachers helped him…
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077 – 90 Seconds To A Life You Love with Dr. Joan Rosenberg
“How can making sense of past experiences and telling our personal story to heal us and make us stronger?” Listen as your host Dr. Michael Bays, and his guest Dr. Joan Rosenberg discuss the sentinel event that sparked her interest in psychology and led her to discover the power of personal story and the wisdom…
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076 – Winter is Here with Dr. Patrick Bays
“The sooner in life, you can establish your sentinel values, the straighter your path.” Listen as your hosts Dr. Michael Bays and Dr. Patrick Bays, discuss sentinel events, what they are, and how they can change your life path. Patrick shares his formula for dropping into the void, the three types of people in the…
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075 – Staying Centered In A Chaotic World with Jack Elias
“Deluded thinking blurs our conscientiousness from being able to see things the way they are.” Listen as hosts Michael and Patrick Bays, and friend and personal mentor Jack Elias discuss simple coping strategies we can take when we are feeling anxious, how can our emotions and feelings delude us, how can we use our external…
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074 – “The Power of Shamanism” with Sandra Ingerman
Have you ever felt that life was knocking you down faster than you could get up? Listen as Michael and his guest Sandra Ingerman, one of the best-known shamans in the western world, discuss her incredible journey to shamanism, what shamanism is, and much more on this episode of The Hollow Tube. Sandra is a…
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073 – Living Your Soul’s Purpose with Shellie Nelson
Are you living your Soul’s purpose? Do you believe you have a soul? Do you know what your soul looks like and sounds like? Do you know what your soul wants for you? I never thought much about my soul or my soul’s purpose until my shaman friend Jose told me that in a certain…
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072 – The Cave We Fear to Enter to Find the Treasure We Seek with Dr. Dan Engle
Have you ever felt vulnerable? What do you think of when you hear the word vulnerability? Do you think of insecurity or uncertainty or being exposed to danger? Do you think of weakness, fear, hurt, or betrayal? Do you think of courage or strength? I’ve been thinking a lot about vulnerability lately. This podcast has…
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071- Finding True Magic with Jack Elias
There is a quote that’s attributed to the Austrian neuropsychiatrist and holocaust survivor, Dr. Viktor Frankl that goes, “Between stimulus and response there is a space. And in that space is our power to choose our response. And in our response lies our growth and our freedom.” I love this quote. It’s the perfect quote.…
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070 – Toltec Shamanism, Researching the Paranormal and Time Travel with Marcus Leader
Have you ever been interested in the paranormal, ghosts or ESP? Have you ever considered that there’s something powerful and mysterious just beyond our perception? Have you wondered if there are individuals who can tap into that power? I used to wish that I could meet someone like that who can teach me the secrets…
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069 – Turning the Pain of Addiction Into Power with Dean Taraborelli
Have you or has anyone you know struggled with addiction? According to Dr. Gabor Mate, an addiction is any behavior that a person craves and finds temporary pleasure or relief in the short-term but suffers negative consequences in the long term and is unable to give up. We can be addicted to anything from our…
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068 – The UFO Hunter- JT Odneal
UFO’s have been igniting the hearts and imaginations of humans since the dawn of time. Have you ever had an other worldly experience? Have you ever seen something in the night sky that you just couldn’t identify? Have you seen a UFO or an unidentified aerial phenomena?  Today’s guest is JT Odneal. JT is someone…
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067 – Life on Purpose with Victor Strecher, PhD
Have you ever asked yourself, “What’s my purpose in life? Why am I here?  Is this all there is?” Every summer, for at least the past ten years, I take my son Parker for a father-son-trip  to Seattle, Washington to visit good Ol’ Uncle Pat. It’s sort of a tradition we call the “The Seattle…
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066 – Jedi Mind Tricks with FBI Hostage Negotiator Chris Voss
I treat a lot of veterans in my job as a surgeon, and many of them have PTSD. What I’ve learned over the years is that anger is really fear disguised, and I try to never take it personally. I  had a patient whose face hurt so badly that he couldn’t even touch his skin.…
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065 – Bringing Harmony Into Our Lives With Diane Halfman
We are back after taking some personal time to be with family and those people who are most important to us. We have an exciting show and an amazing guest today. Do you remember Episode 64 with Audience Whisperer Kerry Mensior? Today’s guest is life coach, author, and speaker Diane Halfman who just happens to…
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064 – Where We Find Meaning Through the Power of Our Stories With The Audience Whisperer: Kerry Mensior
Have you ever had to make a split second life-or-death decision? Have you ever had to make a critical life or death decision under extreme and chaotic circumstances? On this episode, Pat and I are proud to bring you a master storyteller and teacher -The Audience Whisperer, Kerry Mensior. He’s going to tell us about…
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063 – “Why Not Me?” with Tanmeet Sethi, M.D.
What do you do when life throws you a curveball and brings you to your knees? Sentinel events can either destroy us, define us, or make us stronger. What is the secret between those who get wrecked by life and those who get stronger? Today, we are going to find out with our guest and…
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062 – Looking at the Dark and the Light and Finding Equilibrium
Have you ever thought about your impact on the world or how things would have been different had you never existed? Our guest, Satori Mateu, has. If it wasn’t for his grandmother, he wouldn’t be here. Today, he shares how he overcame a traumatic childhood, depression, and suicidal thoughts to become a karate master, best…
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061 – The Drunken Taoist: Daniele Bolelli
Daniele Bolelli The Drunken Taoist is our special guest on today’s show. He is a university history professor, author, and martial artist. Today he is our guide on a journey where desire and destiny collide. I first heard Daniele on the Joe Rogan show, and I have been following him ever since. I was intrigued…
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060 – Trading Skis for a Stethoscope With Dr. John Symms
Have you ever met someone that won you over with their story? In November of 2016, I was part of a committee who interviewed 18 medical students from all over the country, vying for a spot in the Ear, Nose and Throat residency at The University of Arizona College of Medicine. After each interview, my…
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059 – Part II Interview with Steve Maxwell – Don’t Put Your Hero on a Pedestal
Have you ever met someone who changed your life forever? Four years ago, I’m driving to work listening to this jiu-jitsu master on Joe Rogan named Steve Maxwell, and I hear him casually mention the name of the man who inspired him and changed the course of my life 15 years ago. I think I’m…
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058 – Minimalism, Diaphragmatic Breathing, and Jiu Jitsu an Interview with Steve Maxwell Part I
What would it be like if you had to pack up everything you own and move to the other side of the world, how long do you think would it take? A month? A week? About 10 minutes? On this two part episode of The Hollow Tube podcast, we bring you Steve Maxwell. Michael first…
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057 – The Black Swan: with Brandon Voss
Remember that book Pat and I were raving about, “Never Split the Difference” written by the former FBI hostage negotiator, Chris Voss? Brandon Voss is his son, and he’s the unsung hero behind the book. The book never would have happened without him. Brandon and his dad, Chris built their company, the Black Swan Group…
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056 – Beating Resistance and Turning Pro
Have you ever bought a treadmill or a set of weights and used it as a clothes rack? Have you ever wanted to be a writer, a speaker or a nurse? Have you ever wanted to make music or start a new business? Perhaps a stem cell company? Have you ever had a vision of…
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055 – The Power of Your Story
There is power in story. Story can be used to introduce, persuade, influence, and more. Michael kicks off the show with a story about the lowest point in his life. He recently attended a public speaking workshop by football great Bo Eason and this was the assignment. This point is what Patrick and Michael have…
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054 – Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It
Negotiation is something that we do on a daily basis whether we realize it or not. Most human interactions are negotiations on some level. Michael recently read Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It by Chris Voss. Chris had an interesting story of how he became a high-stakes FBI negotiator…
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053 – Interview With Matt Prater from the Detroit Lions
Patrick’s new stem cell company CurPoint Orthopedic Cell Based Medicine is already getting calls and interest. They have their new Orthoscan C-Arm and an ultrasound expert is one of his partners. Patrick just hired a back office person who will also be a surgical assistant. They plan to become the premier provider of stem cell…
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052 – Sleepless in Seattle
Every summer I take Parker to visit his Uncle Pat in Seattle. This has become our tradition. This year Kaci and Parker’s girlfriend, Olivia, joined us. The first thing that hits me once we arrive is the smell of that crisp, Pacific Northwest air. It instantly brings me back. I think that’s what I love…
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050 – Interview With a Medicine Man Willem Wout De Klerk
I have a very special guest on the show today. My friend Willem Wout de Klerk. He is part Eastern mystic, part mountain man, and part medicine man. He is a master of sacred ceremony, and has dedicated his whole life to the Inipi or sweat lodge. I first met him at a friends house…
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049 – The Making of a Mentorship
Mentors are trusted and experienced advisors to their protégé. We all need one-on-one mentorship at one time or another if we want to level up in life. This week Michael and Patrick breakdown the concept of mentorship and share personal stories of having a mentor or being a mentor. We talk about why you would…
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048 – An evening with Dr. Saranya Reghunathan
There is a saying, “ Always have a mentor and always be a mentor.” Six years ago a brilliant young physician, Saranya Reghunathan, M.D. came to me and requested I be her mentor¬. A mentor is defined as an experienced and trusted advisor who has the best interest of the protege at heart. There is…
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047 – The Disruptive Episode
Pat is back from his sabbatical in Salt Lake City and Park Lake City Utah. Patrick is starting a stem cell center in Seattle, and he was gathering information. He thinks he might be the only orthopedic surgeon in the State of Washington doing stem cell therapy. Every tissue in the body is made of…
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046 – Energy Healing and Shamanism
Pat is away this week, so I’m interviewing a colleague and a very special friend of mine Ann Marie Chiasson MD. We first met in 2008 when I was training as a fellow for the integrative medicine program through the University of Arizona. She is now the director of the entire program. She is also…
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045 – Ending World Hunger with Humanitarian of the Year George Roundy
Patrick is off on a trip to meet with logo designer Lindon Leader. The same designer that created the classic FedEx logo. In his place, I have the next best thing his childhood friend George Roundy who is here to talk about his career in technology, his struggles with weight and self-esteem, and how he…
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044 – Life with Princess Olivia
Olivia Wheeler is a 17-year-old high school junior. She is captain of the varsity cheer squad. We are so excited to be interviewing Olivia today. One of the things that we love to do is to speak with and get in the minds of these high school kids. We like to share our stories and…
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043 – Simplicity and Clarity
Today’s Episode: We had a little hiatus for the Easter vacation, but it’s great to be back sitting in our chairs in our respective communities. Michael was celebrating his birthday and had the most amazing cake we have ever seen. The base of it looked like a blacktop road with a yellow line down the…
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042 – Synchronicities and Messages from Beyond
Last week, we had a wonderful discussion with Noah Martin. He is a high school student, scholar, athlete, and aspiring professional musician. For someone so young, he had a lot of wisdom to share. We really enjoyed talking about and helping him define his future vision. We also received positive feedback on the episode before…
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041 – Life Decisions With Noah Martin
Noah Martin is our special guest today. Noah is a 17 year old high school student who is an athlete on the varsity football team. He is also a scholar and an honor student. He is a finalist for Arizona Scholar Athlete of the Year. He plays the guitar, drums, and sings in his band…
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040 – Brainwave States and Meditation
Last week we talked about sentinel goals and sentinel events. We might have 10 sentinel goals in our life and then sporadic sentinel events. Sentinel goals are things that you intentionally work towards where sentinel events are things that happen spontaneously. Today. we are going to talk about brainwave states and meditation. We also want…
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039 – Sentinel Goals and Sentinel Events
In another episode, we promised that we would talk about sentinel goals and sentinel events. Today is the day that we do that. Throughout most people’s lifetimes, they have about 10 opportunities to have a large goal realized. An example of a large goal would be when John F. Kennedy announced that he wanted to…
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038 – Your Vibration Equals Your Destination
Our topic today is how your vibration equals your destination. We start off with a quick update and then talk about the importance of independence when it seems like you don’t have anything else. We also talk about how altruistic behavior gives us a dopamine rush and helps us feel better. We touch on the…
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037 – Where Awareness Goes Energy Flows
When two people are in an argument or having a debate the first person to lose is the first person to lose their composure. We talked about this today along with the signs of losing your composure. We also talked about how tactics to shut down to debate are the opposite of free speech. Patrick…
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036 – Connor Olive’s Life Transition
Special guest Connor Olive is here to talk about a life transition he is going through. Connor is a 17 year old honor student, athlete, and musician who is going through a transition in his life. At The Hollow Tube, we like to talk with men and women who are going through transitions and thinking…
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035 – Being 100% Available for Your Kids and Family
Parents struggle with being the best parent they can be. We want to teach our children in a way that expresses love. When we were children, we grew up learning from our parents by mimicking them. Our children do the same thing with us. What type of example are we setting for our kids? It’s…
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034 – Frustration, the Science of Achievement, the Art of Fulfillment, and Pie
Michael kicks off the show with a funny take he saw on Family Guy about having an over inflated sense of self and podcasting. Then we start talking about focusing on external things in our lives, and how if you are unhappy before making a major change such as plastic surgery, there is a good…
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033 – Dealing With What Life Gives You
Everything we experience in life is experienced through our five senses in some ways. Yet, sometimes for one reason or another people lose one or more of these senses. In cases like this we learn to deal with what life gives to us. A couple examples we talk about are how Patrick is getting some…
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032 – Date With Destiny with Kaci Bays
Kaci Bays is back to talk about her and Michael’s trip to the Tony Robbins Date With Destiny event. Patrick, Michael and Kaci discuss Tony Robbins, walking on hot coals, and inspiration. We talk about early Tony Robbins and how he turned negatives in his early life into positives of his current life. Patrick also…
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031 – When the Hollow Tube Opens
Last week, Michael had a very interesting conversation with a student, athlete, and musician whose dad had a massive stroke that affected the entire families lives. Patrick wasn’t able to take part in last week’s episode. Michael felt that something was missing when he listened back to the episode. He didn’t give a lot of…
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030 – Road to Recovery
This week’s episode features Scott Golden. Scott is a sixteen-year-old high school student, athlete and musician whose life was turned completely upside down two years ago when his father suffered a massive stroke. I was impressed with Scott’s honesty and courage as he described how this shocking tragedy has affected him and his family. How…
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029 – A Moment of Clarity
Michael and Patrick are both in Phoenix for this podcast. They also have a special guest their nephew Chad Smith. The whole family was together for Thanksgiving, and Chad is joining today’s show. Chad is from San Francisco. He is a graduate of Arizona State University and is 33 years old. Chad is a DJ…
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028 – How to Survive Anything Life Throws at You
  Patrick had an interesting week. He is going to call himself "the last customer." He ordered custom glass and called the owner to see what was taking so long. The woman on the phone told him he was the last customer. The owner of the company passed away after taking measurements for Patrick's table.…
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