The Karen & Ellen Letters
Studio BOTH/AND
In 2005, I received a stack of found, hand-written letters between two (stupid?) young women and their (long-suffering?) landlord. That gift would send me on a fifteen-year search for the truth. It was a comedic investigation that demanded some pretty complex interrogation: Who owns a story? How honest is our nostalgia? What does it mean to be a difficult woman? How do we engage in sexism and patriarchal gender roles? And, of course, does gas smell like avocados? And are allegations made by alligators?
0210. Go Be Free
Truth is a tricky thing. Three girls lived in a cottage once. They are both everywhere and nowhere in these versions of the Truth.Starring:Lori Snyder as DotAdrienne Hardison as HelenaMatt Peelen as RobSara Stapleton as Herself/KarenSara Kitcher as EllenJeff Powell as MarkJosh Hallmark as HimselfMegan Chaney Walker as Josh Hallmark as Mark as Ellen as A girl who lived in a cottage onceMusic by:Podington BearTwin SisterMaria TaylorRoseanne CashChris Zabriskie
Mar 6, 2024 • 31:37
0209. Sunrise/Sunset
The results are in. Mark moves on. Crochet Pants looks back. A life is celebrated. A birthday is celebrated. Aloha Karen watches the sunrise. Starring:Lori Snyder as DotAdrienne Hardison as HelenaMatt Peelen as Aloha RobSara Stapleton as Herself/Karen Crochet Pants/Aloha KarenJeff Powell as MarkRyan Connelly as ChristopherMatt Valletta as DarrenChris Braaten as ReporterJosh Hallmark as HimselfMusic by:Podington BearBeach Party Hula IslandSara StapletonEvgeny GrinkoRadical Face
Mar 6, 2024 • 30:31
0208. Two Sweet Sand Pigs
The results are in. Mark moves on. Crochet Pants looks back. A life is celebrated. A birthday is celebrated. Aloha Karen watches the sunrise. Starring:Lori Snyder as DotAdrienne Hardison as HelenaMatt Peelen as Aloha RobSara Stapleton as Herself/Karen Crochet Pants/Aloha KarenJeff Powell as MarkRyan Connelly as ChristopherMatt Valletta as DarrenChris Braaten as ReporterJosh Hallmark as HimselfMusic by:Podington BearBeach Party Hula IslandSara StapletonEvgeny GrinkoRadical Face
Mar 6, 2024 • 21:14
0207. The Big Guy
We touch base with David. Dot & Helena look at "pics." Patty tells a friend about her wedding. Josh finds something at the bottom of a rabbit hole. Starring:Chris Braaten as Rod DowneyChris Green as DavidLori Snyder as DotAdrienne Hardison as HelenaHolly Hall as PatriciaSara Beth Poole as EllenSara Stapleton as Herself/KarenJosh Hallmark as HimselfMusic by:Podington BearMeleSamuel CorwinThe Do
Feb 21, 2024 • 21:40
0206. Bestselling Feline Author
Helena gets upset with the news. Ellen has her eye on a cat painting. Josh can't believe his eyes. Darren spills the beans. Thanksgiving is celebrated on opposite ends of the country.Starring:Adrienne Hardison as HelenaJosh Hallmark as HimselfSara Beth Poole as EllenSara Stapleton as Herself/KarenMatt Valletta as DarrenHolly Hall as PatriciaMusic by:Podington BearTitus 12Gary & JohnChris ZabriskieSamuel CorwinLia Ices
Feb 21, 2024 • 20:42
0205. Karen, Karen, Karen
Dot tells Helena about her daughter's wedding. Josh and Sara try to sort out several possible Karens. Email Karen returns. Crochet Pants enters the fold. And Ellen catches another mouse. Starring: Lori Snyder as DotAdrienne Hardison as HelenaSara Stapleton as Karen/HerselfJosh Hallmark as HimselfDenise Page as RosieSara Beth Poole as EllenMusic by:Podington BearMuddy WatersAurelie
Feb 21, 2024 • 27:29
0204. The Deal
Helena fondly remembers Dot's daughter and her friend. The girls return from vacation. Ellen continues to struggle with geography. Josh reaches out to an old friend. Starring:• Sara Stapleton as Herself/Karen • Chris Green as Email Man • Adrienne Hardison as Helena • Jeff Powell as Mark • Sara Beth Kitcher as Ellen • Matt Peelen as Rob • Josh Hallmark as HimselfMusic by:• Podington Bear • Herman & Ian • YEYEY • Part Time
Feb 14, 2024 • 25:37
0203. In My Legal Opinion
There's something oddly familiar, but strangely foreign about this. But what does it all mean, Leslie? Leslie? Starring: • Chris Green as David • Josh Hallmark as Himself• Lori Anyder as Dot • Deana Marie as Karen • Cory Saceaux as Rob • Steven Pappas as Mark • Donna Hume as Ellen • Sara Stapleton as Herself • Holly Hall as Patricia Music by:• Podington Bear • Grandma Pat • Ivy
Feb 14, 2024 • 27:05
0202. I Can't Wait to Get Over the Wall
Helena reconnects with an old friend. Someone is having a really bad day. Ellen wants free firewood. Ants! Ellen leaves something behind. Josh finds something alarming. Where's Leslie? Starring: • Adrienne Hardison as Helena • Cindy Hall as ??????? • Jeff Powell as Mark • Sara Stapleton as Karen/Herself • Sara Beth Poole as Ellen • Alyse Braaten as Leslie • Chris Green as David • Josh Hallmark as Himself Music by:• Podington Bear • Grandma Pat • Julie Maxwell's Piano Music
Feb 14, 2024 • 27:44
0201. How to Catch a Mouse
Dot loses her dog. Mark gets scolded. Karen spies on her neighbors. Someone is up to something. Josh tries to reconcile timelines. Ellen catches a mouse. Starring: • Lori Snyder as Dot • Nina Innsted as Bonnie • Jeff Powell as Mark • Sara Stapleton as Karen/Herself • Sara Beth Poole as Ellen • Alyse Braaten as Leslie • Chris Green as David • Josh Hallmark as Himself Music by:• Podington Bear • Marti • Broke For Free
Feb 14, 2024 • 16:52
Studio BOTH/AND News & Announcements
Catch up on all things Studio BOTH/AND for the month of February (and beyond).This month's news:• New tours and events • Unsafe Spaces update • The Karen & Ellen Letters update • True Crime Bullsh** update • New projects • Our Americana update • Studio BOTH/AND Launch Party follow-up in The Berkshires this October • What's happening on Patreon this month Links: • True Crime Podcast Festival, use promo code JOSH for 15% off • Studio BOTH/AND Patreon
Jan 31, 2024 • 3:44
Season 2 Launches 2/6! Enjoy this teaser.
What (and when) is Ellen doing with all these mice?What are Mark and Bonnie up to?What did Josh and Sara find?Who's baking ham from the internet?The Big D????Season 2 will take you out of California, across multiple timelines, to new voices and witnesses, and answer most of your old questions plus some new ones.The answers start pouring in on February 6.
Jan 30, 2024 • 6:37
7. You Know Who
The season finale.Season 2 begins on January 29.The Karen & Ellen Letters are found correspondenceNarrated and produced by: Josh HallmarkStarring: Sara Stapleton, Sara Kitcher, Jeff Powell, Matt Peelen, Chris Green, Vicki Russell, Megan Chaney-Walker, Eric Schmidt, Paul Csomo, and Zoe Marshall-RashidThis is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothandMusic by:Lee RosevereChris ZabriskieRoie ShpiglerGalactic RealmsIcarusDigital BattlefieldTideD
Dec 14, 2023 • 1:12:09
6. A Sober Dog
In 1989: Ellen has concerns, Karen & Rob are at their wit's end, and Mark mourns a loss.In 2012: Things get meta.The Karen & Ellen Letters are found correspondenceNarrated and produced by: Josh HallmarkStarring: Sara Stapleton, Sara Kitcher, Jeff Powell, and Matt PeelenThis is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothandMusic by:Lee RosevereNightcrawlersFifteenRetro ChillwaveTopaz WhiteEverythingPatreon producers: Adrienne Aiello, Amelia H
Oct 27, 2023 • 25:46
Check out my newest show: Unsafe Spaces
Unsafe Spaces is an investigative, serialized true crime podcast that explores the crimes that take place in the places we’re supposed to feel safest. In Season One: Tampa’s Missing Men, I explore how two different missing persons cases, reported on the same day, opened a Pandora’s Box of unreported assaults, cold missing persons cases, ignored rapes, and unsolved murders within Florida’s gay community; and the two men who could be responsible for all of them. Not to mention cold cases of missin
Oct 19, 2023 • 11:19
5. Dear Josh
The train goes off the tracks.The Karen & Ellen Letters are found correspondence.Narrated and produced by: Josh Hallmark.Starring: Sara Stapleton, Sara Kitcher, Jeff Powell, Matt Peelen, and Chris BraatenThis is a Studio BOTH/AND production: truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothandMusic by:IdokayLee RosevereEverythingDigital BattlegroundGalactic RealmsRoi ShpiglerFeatured music: Maria TaylorPatreon producers: Adrienne Aiello, Amelia Hancock, Amy
Oct 12, 2023 • 24:04
4. It Could Have Happened to Anyone
In 2012, the Josh struggles with the joy vs. the reality of the letters. In 1988, Karen honeymoons, Ellen prepares to move out, and Mark sends the girls what's left of their deposit. In 2017, people have questions about Ellen.The Karen & Ellen Letters are found correspondence. Narrated and produced by: Josh Hallmark. Starring: Sara Stapleton, Sara Kitcher, Jeff Powell, and Chris Braaten This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / www.bothand.fyi For an ad-free experienc
Sep 28, 2023 • 29:21
Conversations with Stephanie Sabin
WARNING: This contains general spoilers about the scope of the Karen & Ellen Letters story. We talk around how the investigation ends, without giving away exact or detailed information.Stephanie Sabin is a writer for WYDaily.com. More than that, she's a dear friend. And The Karen & Ellen Letters played a very significant role in both Stephanie's career and our friendship. Stephanie was a superfan of the podcast in its initial run; and now we're discussing it in depth, for the first time,
Sep 26, 2023 • 1:07:48
3. You Know What That Means
In 2006, Josh begins to find evidence that three of the letter-writers actually exist.In 1988, the girls celebrate a milestone, Karen and Mark find themselves at an impasse, and Mark finds joy in an unlikely place.The Karen & Ellen Letters are found correspondence.Narrated and produced by: Josh Hallmark.Starring: Sara Stapleton, Sara Kitcher, Jeff Powell, and Benjamin Watkins.This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / www.bothand.fyiFor an ad-free experience: www.patre
Sep 21, 2023 • 29:24
Conversations with Charlie Worroll
WARNING: This contains mild general spoilers about the scope of the Karen & Ellen Letters story. We talk around how the investigation ends, without giving away exact or detailed information. Charlie Worroll (Crimelines; Crimelines and Consequences) has history with The Karen & Ellen Letters going back to its days as a blog (c. 2012). Years later, we met through podcasting. In the inaugural Karen & Ellen Conversations, we discuss how the letters have changed and how we have changed ov
Sep 19, 2023 • 50:39
2. Jurisdiction is Irreverent
In 2005, Josh begins trying to authenticate the letters. In 1987, Karen and Ellen struggle with math and jurisdiction; Ellen is upset by a commercial; and Karen tells Mark about her boyfriend. Mark begins to lose his cool. The Karen & Ellen Letters are found correspondence.Narrated and produced by: Josh Hallmark.Starring: Sara Stapleton, Sara Beth Kitcher, and Jeff Powell. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / www.bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon
Sep 14, 2023 • 26:19
1. Dear Mark
In 2005, Josh is gifted a stack of strange letters. In 1987, Karen and Ellen move into their very first apartment and immediately begin terrorizing their landlord. And so we begin to unravel a decade-long mystery with a single question: Can these letters actually be real? The Karen & Ellen Letters are found correspondence. Narrated and produced by: Josh Hallmark. Starring: Sara Stapleton, Sara Beth Kitcher, and Jeff Powell. Music by: EverythingJunk City RejectsNeon CoastFifteenNeon Rider; an
Sep 7, 2023 • 26:00
The Karen & Ellen Letters (Season One Trailer)
The Karen & Ellen Letters are found correspondance between two teenage girls and their landlord, over a three year period, from the 1980s. This podcast is the reading of those letters and a re-telling of the host's journey to authenticate them. The girls are demanding at best, the landlord is tired and impatient, the journey is the perfect blend of comedy, mystery, and cognitive dissonance. The Karen & Ellen Letters arrive on September 5 at www.karenandellen.com.
Aug 23, 2023 • 5:06
The Re-listen, Part Nine
Who's that big guy?This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Dec 3, 2019 • 43:49
The Re-listen, Part Eight
Who is Patty, please?This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Nov 26, 2019 • 47:56
The Re-listen, Part Seven
There’s something fishy about David; there’s something fishy about Juan Valdez.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Nov 20, 2019 • 52:58
The Re-listen, Part Six
Ummm... what is happening and who are these old ladies?This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Nov 12, 2019 • 45:49
The Re-listen, Part Five
The best gifts, last a lifetime; the strangest mysteries, never truly end.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Oct 29, 2019 • 30:31
The Re-listen - Part Four
A strange journey encounters some startling hiccups.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Oct 22, 2019 • 41:37
The Re-listen - Part Three
In 2013, a strange gift sent me on an even stranger journey.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Oct 15, 2019 • 58:24
The Re-listen - Part Two
In 2013, a strange gift got the better of me.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Oct 7, 2019 • 45:27
The Re-listen - Part One
In 2005 a strange gift came, and a wonderful journey began.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Sep 30, 2019 • 33:06
01 | This is Israel Keyes
Introducing the newest podcast from Josh and the Our Americana Podcast Network: True Crime Bullsh**: The story of Israel Keyes // Israel Keyes is considered one of the most meticulous serial killers in American history. He had a fetish for missing people, and to this date, only one of his victims' remains have been located. This is your introduction to Israel and the journey True Crime Bullsh** will take us on.To learn more or sponsor the show: www.truecrimebullshit.com Written, researched, e
Dec 7, 2018 • 33:51
A new podcast from Josh: True Crime Bullsh**
True Crime Bullsh** is a serialized, investigative podcast exploring meticulous and enigmatic serial killer Israel Keyes. Join me on this strange, terrifying, and emotional journey, as I attempt to find the missing, understand a killer, explore the impacts of crime, and reconcile with those left behind.True Crime Bullsh** premieres on December 6.
Nov 30, 2018 • 1:42
The Final Aftershow
In the final Aftershow, Josh, Sara, and Jess (The Beth Chronicles & Murder Road Trip) listen to a rough draft of the final episode (for the first time), starring Josh as both Mark and Ellen. In this episode: You'll get to listen to the Mark letters that didn't make it into the finale. We try to solve the most important mystery: whatever happened to all those dead fish? Additionally, did Sara find Hal? We laugh, we cry, we talk about what's to come.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network,
Feb 6, 2018 • 1:41:31
S02|E10: Go Be Free (The Finale)
Reconciliation. Stay tuned for a preview of the new story coming next season. www.behindtheoven.wordpress.com Starring: Sara Beth Poole, Josh Hallmark, Sara Stapleton, Jeff Powell, Matt Peelen, Megan Chaney Walker // Music by:Mr. Twin Sister / Podington Bear / Rosanne Cash This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Jan 30, 2018 • 28:38
S02|A09: In Sight & Matt Peelen (Rob)
Charlie, Ali, and Matt, who have been on the Karen & Ellen journey since the days of the blog (2011), join me to chat about the series as a whole, season 2, episode 9, and the process of turning the letters into a podcast.
Jan 29, 2018 • 52:28
S02|E09: Sunset/Sunrise
The results are in. Mark moves on. Crochet Pants looks back. A life is celebrated. A birthday is celebrated. Aloha Karen watches the sunrise.www.behindtheoven.wordpress.com Starring: Chris Braaten as Reporter; Lori Snyder as Dot; Adrienne Hardison as Helena; Sara Stapleton as Aloha Karen/Herself/Crochet Pants Karen; Josh Hallmark as Himself; Matt Valletta as Darren; Nicki Thatcher as Clerk; Jeff Powell as Mark; Ryan Conley as Christopher // Music by:Podington Bear / Beach Party Hula I
Jan 23, 2018 • 31:12
S02|E08: Two Sweet Sand Pigs
Helena provides some insight into Fish Ellen. Josh presents Aloha Karen's greatest hits. Crochet Pants goes home. Sara asks for help. An old friend returns. www.behindtheoven.wordpress.com Starring: Lori Snyder as Dot; Adrienne Hardison as Helena; Josh Hallmark as Himself; Sara Stapleton as Herself/Aloha Karen/Crochet Pants Karen; Matt Peelen as Aloha Rob; Nicki Thatcher as Clerk; Benjamin Watkins as Uncle Albert // Music by:Podington Bear / Traylayne & GhostSoda / Sunset RubdownThis s
Jan 16, 2018 • 22:22
S02|A06: The Roomies (Cindy, Vanessa, Vicki)
Roomies Cindy, Vanessa, and Vicki join Josh to chat about Cindy's mysterious Season 2 role, theories, feelings, late night rabbit holes, and more. Plus, we play a game!
Dec 28, 2017 • 52:56
A Karen & Ellen MARY CHRISTmas Special
Hosted by Laila Featuring: Vanessa York, Brian York, Staci P, Lenny & Duke, Sara Poole, Chris Braaten, Nicki Thatcher, Steven Pappas, Josh Hallmark, Donna Hume, Chris Green, and Deana Marie //Music by:Podington BearScott HolmesPatrick Watson
Dec 22, 2017 • 18:01
S02|E07: The Big Guy
We touch base with David. Dot & Helena look at "pics." Patty tells a friend about her wedding. Josh finds something at the bottom of a rabbit hole. // The Karen & Ellen Letters will return in January.www.behindtheoven.wordpress.com Starring: Chris Braaten as Rod Downey; Chris Green as David; Lori Snyder as Dot; Adrienne Hardison as Helena; Holly Hall as Patricia; Sara Beth Poole as Ellen; Sara Stapleton as Herself/Karen; Josh Hallmark as Himself // Music by:Podington Bear / Mele / Sam
Dec 12, 2017 • 24:06
S02|E06: Best-Selling Feline Author (The Accident)
Helena gets upset with the news. Ellen has her eye on a cat painting. Josh can't believe his eyes. Darren spills the beans. Thanksgiving is celebrated on opposite ends of the country.www.behindtheoven.wordpress.com Starring: Adrienne Hardison as Helena; Josh Hallmark as Himself; Sara Beth Poole as Ellen; Sara Stapleton as Herself/Karen; Matt Valletta as Darren; Holly Hall as Patricia // Music by:Podington Bear / Titus 12 / Gary & John / Chris Zabriskie / Samuel Corwin / Lia IcesThis sho
Dec 5, 2017 • 24:34
S02|A05: Chris (GravityBeard) & Donna (Varmints & Soapy Madams)
In this slightly different Aftershow, Chris & Donna join me for more exploration than commentation. Plus: Donna holds Josh’s feet to the fire. Chris talks about his mismatched roles. We deep dive the Karen & Ellen mythology. And a plea to Catfish Karen. Also, we get down to business over all that bad karaoke.
Dec 5, 2017 • 1:26:46
S02|E05: Karen Karen Karen
Dot tells Helena about her daughter's wedding. Josh and Sara try to sort out several possible Karens. Josh hears from Email Karen. We're introduced to someone we call Crochet Pants. And Ellen catches another mouse.www.behindtheoven.wordpress.comStarring:Lori Snyder as Dot; Adrienne Hardison as Helena; Sara Stapleton as Karen/Herself; Josh Hallmark as Himself; Denise Page as Rosie; Sara Beth Poole as Ellen; Music by:Podington Bear / Muddy Waters / AurelieThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Ne
Nov 28, 2017 • 27:58
S02|A04: Hannah (Film Roast), Lanie (True Crime Fan Club), Tawny (Dirty Bits)
Hannah, Lanie, and Tawny drop by to talk episode 4. We deep dive some fan theories, sort out Ellen's homework, and answer some listener questions. Plus: Hannah roasts a chicken; and should Josh get that mole checked out?
Nov 15, 2017 • 1:33:50
S02|E04: Jurisdicted To Love
Helena fondly remembers Dot's daughter and her friend. The girls return from vacation. Ellen continues to struggle with geography. Josh reaches out to an old friend.www.behindtheoven.wordpress.comStarring:Sara Stapleton as Karen/Herself; Chris Green as Email Man; Adrienne Hardison as Helena; Jeff Powell as Mark; Sara Beth Poole as Ellen; Matt Peelen as Rob; Josh Hallmark as HimselfMusic by:Podington Bear / The Flaming Lips / Herman & Ian / YEYEY / Part TimeThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime
Nov 7, 2017 • 27:35
S02|A03: The Roomies
Roomies Cheryl J, Jen P, Staci P, and Stephanie S take over the Aftershow and grill Josh as much as possible. We tackle the strangest and most disorienting episode yet, go over fan theories, try to figure out Patti with the crystals.
Nov 3, 2017 • 1:05:22
S02|E03: In My Legal Opinion
Karen's legal representative weighs in. Karen, Ellen, and Rob need jobs. And the fate of the cat painting is uncovered.www.behindtheoven.wordpress.comStarring:Josh Hallmark / Lori Snyder / Deana Marie / Cory Saceaux / Steven Pappas / Donna Hume / Chris Green / Sara Stapleton / Holly HallMusic by:Podington Bear / Grandma Pat / Ivy This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Oct 31, 2017 • 29:53
S02|A02: Is This Adulting?
The guys from Is This Adulting? weigh in on episode 2. In our most revealing Aftershow: Josh pops Chris's cherry, Chris develops a fascination with someone, Steven has a new toy, and Josh has definitely picked the wrong word of the day. **We encounter some audio issues in the first 2 minutes, they clear up thereafter**
Oct 26, 2017 • 1:19:38
S02|E02: I Can't Wait To Get Over The Wall
Helena reconnects with an old friend. Someone is having a really bad day. Ellen wants free firewood. Ants! Ellen leaves something behind. Josh finds something alarming. Where's Leslie?Starring:Adrienne Hardison as HelenaJosh Hallmark as HimselfCindy Packer as ???????Sara Beth Poole as EllenJeff Powell as MarkChris Green as DavidAlyse Braaten as LeslieMusic by:Grandma PatJulie Maxwell's Piano Musicwww.behindtheoven.wordpress.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are intereste
Oct 24, 2017 • 29:20
S02 Aftershow 1: Tamie & Sue
Tamie & Sue return for the Season 2 Aftershow premiere, which was fraught with techincal difficulties. It's Sue's birthday, and Tamie and Josh get very drunk. Sue and Tamie share some theories, Josh reveals some bombshells, and we answer listener questions. Plus: some singing, some vulgar penis talk, and a glimpse of what it's like to work with Josh.
Oct 17, 2017 • 1:23:46
S02|E01: How To Catch A Mouse
Dot loses her dog. Mark gets scolded. Karen spies on her neighbors. Someone is up to something. Josh tries to reconcile timelines. Ellen catches a mouse.Starring:Lori Snyder as DotNina Innsted as BonnieJeff Powell as MarkSara Stapleton as Karen/HerselfSara Beth Poole as EllenAlyse Braaten as LeslieChris Green as DavidJosh Hallmark as HimselfMusic by:MartiBroke For Freewww.behindtheoven.wordpress.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podc
Oct 17, 2017 • 27:33
Season 2 Q&A with Chris Green & Josh Hallmark
Chris Green hosts a Q&A covering listener questions on what to expect from season two.
Jul 26, 2017 • 26:10
Season 2 Preview: Baked Ham
New mail arrives this Fall.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Jul 22, 2017 • 6:37
Season 2 Teaser
Season 2 arrives November 14.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Jun 17, 2017 • 1:47
Season One Roundtable & Wrap Up
In the Season One wrap up, Josh and Sara (Karen) are joined by Chris Green (The GravityBeard Show), Steven Pappas (Is This Adulting?), Sara DaSilva (Audible Feast), and Shannon Martin (Podbean) to discuss the season as whole. We talk ethics, the contagious nomenclature of Karen and Ellen, favorite moments, armchair detectives, and Season Two. Plus, Steven takes us down a psychological rabbithole; and the group shares their own Karen and Ellen moments in life.And, listeners chime in to share thei
May 18, 2017 • 1:27:59
Season Finale: The Aftershow (w/ Jeff Powell, Sara Stapleton), Part 2
Sara, Jeff, and Josh answer listener questions, talk about the production of the podcast, theorize, and share personal stories of friendship and life lessons.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
May 18, 2017 • 1:50:14
Season Finale: The Aftershow (w/ Jeff Powell, Sara Stapleton), Part 1
In this first part of the final Aftershow, Sara (Karen), Jeff (Mark), and Josh comment on the letters featured in the finale.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
May 17, 2017 • 1:03:21
Season Finale | Cognitive Dissonance
A revealing connection is made. A villain emerges. Josh, Jeff, and Sara do some investigating, with varying success. Ellen leaves something behind. An email is sent. A package is shipped. We see the return of several old characters, and meet some new ones. We learn a shocking truth about one of our letter-writers, that changes everything.Plus, bloopers and drunken ad-libbing, by Jeff and Sara.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, c
May 17, 2017 • 30:58
Episodes Eleven & Twelve: The Aftershow (w/ Meghan Costella & Ryanne Steele)
What starts off as a morose Aftershow (with all that anti-semitism talk) quickly devolves into drunken hysteria when the word of the day comes up 16 times in two consecutive letters.
May 15, 2017 • 1:35:59
Episode Twelve | We Need To Talk About Karen & Ellen
Ellen has an awkward dinner with Karen's family. Karen and Rob use a newspaper article to appraise the mermaid clock. The Karen & Ellen Letters hit the stage, and are quickly retired to a box forever. Someone strange enters the fray. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
May 9, 2017 • 22:45
Episode Eleven | Uh-oh, Scandal
A flashback, a 3rd timeline, and a lot of information about the girls' families. Plus, Mark and Ellen become closer; while Mark and Josh hit a snag. This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
May 2, 2017 • 22:55
Episode Ten: The Aftershow (w/ Twisted Philly & In Sight)
Deana from the Twisted Philly podcast, and Ali and Charlie from In Sight, join me to discuss Karen and Ellen's strange relationship with Mark, whether socio-economics play a role in stupidity, and Ali's and Charlie's long history with the letters.
Apr 27, 2017 • 1:04:15
Episode Nine | In My Legal Opinion
Josh makes several bad decisions after hearing from Karen. Karen's legal representative weighs in. Karen, Ellen, and Rob need jobs. And the fate of the cat painting is uncovered.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Apr 17, 2017 • 18:42
Episode Eight: The Aftershow (w/ Tamie McGranahan, Sue Tortolani)
Tamie & Sue (and their pets) return to help unpack this doozy of an episode. We discuss our favorite listener conspiracy theories. Hilarity ensues when 3 secular people try to figure out Ellen's interpretation of Karen's interpretation of Catholocism. And the entire commentary seems to be continually haunted by the spirit of Mary Christ.
Apr 4, 2017 • 1:15:00
Episode Eight | Christmas Tree Farm
The train goes off the tracks.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Apr 3, 2017 • 26:05
Episode Seven: The Aftershow (w/ Amanda & Lucy from Wine & Crime)
This week we instate 2 words of the day, and consequently get very drunk. Amanda has a wine pairing specifically for our protagonists. Ellen outsmarts all of us. And we expound upon a dark theory regarding Ellen’s whereabouts. Plus: A lost letter that didn’t make it into the original episode (because: mistakes were made)!
Mar 28, 2017 • 1:07:54
Episode Seven | George Bush
Ellen takes an active role in the election. Uncle Albert takes a scholarly approach to trying to understand Karen’s and Ellen’s malapropisms. Someone makes a big announcement. And The Karen & Ellen Letters go international.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Mar 28, 2017 • 13:04
Episode Six: The Aftershow (w/ Varmints! Hosts: Donna Hume & Paul Csomo)
In this very special morning edition of the Aftershow, the hosts of Josh's favorite podcast join him for what Donna calls, 'Day Drinking With Josh.' We breakdown Karen's impact on the English lexicon, the girls' mixed metaphors, and landlord letters of recommendation.
Mar 27, 2017 • 55:43
Episode Six | The Camel's Back
Karen needs a new vacuum. Ellen begins a long and grueling search. Mark does Karen a favor. And allegations are made.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Mar 27, 2017 • 12:04
Episode Five: The Aftershow (w/ Jason Leroy, Blake Love)
WARNING: This aftershow features a lot of explicit language and inappropriate humor.Josh is still drunk from the last Aftershow. Jason shocks us all with an unsavory joke; and then doubles down. We draw a dark conclusion as to why Ellen disappeared after 1990. We try to figure out which drugs the girls were on. And then compare Karen & Ellen to our favorite Real Housewives.
Mar 19, 2017 • 1:04:32
Episode Five | Happy Anniversary
#MailDay comes early this week! Karen & Ellen celebrate their year anniversary with Mark. Ellen talks astrology. And Mark’s Uncle Albert weighs in.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Mar 19, 2017 • 11:48
The Karen & Ellen Letters Q&A
3 hours ago, I decided I should do a Q&A. The GravityBeard host wanted to facilitate it. The only time that worked for both of us was right now. Chris and Josh sit down, entirely unprepared, to go over some listener questions. Mild spoilers ahead. Also: Mild political discourse.
Mar 15, 2017 • 40:32
Episode Four: The Aftershow (w/ Rebecca Emmons, Liz Vonau)
Friends (and friends of the show) Liz and Rebecca join me as we try (really) hard to find a way to honor International Women's Day with Karen & Ellen. We also answer some Facebook questions and attempt to unpack that Roger Rabbit letter. Plus: A Karen & Ellen drinking game ends as expected.
Mar 14, 2017 • 50:22
Episode Four | I Think This Is Serious
Karen decides Mark owes her thousands of dollars. Ellen sees something on TV that disturbs her. And Mark finally asks for help.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Mar 14, 2017 • 15:23
Episode Three: The Aftershow (Chris Braaten & Chris Green)
Hosts of the More Gooder Than and Gravity Beard podcasts, Chris Braaten & Chris Green, join me to talk about episode 3. We try to figure out why Ellen wants firewood so much. And Braaten brings his stories and expert opinion as a landlord.
Mar 7, 2017 • 1:05:04
Episode Three | Free Firewood
Ellen struggles with inequity. A heat wave strikes Karen's bedroom. And a man named Hal ruins everything.www.karenandellen.comThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Mar 7, 2017 • 9:12
Episode Two: The Aftershow (w/ Kwame and Miss Free)
Hosts of the Blaze Entertainment Podcast, and Karen & Ellen virgins, Kwame and Miss Free join me to talk about episode three. We debate who would make the worse roommate and find the origin of "alternative facts."
Mar 2, 2017 • 24:56
Episode Two | Bad Spirits
Ellen arrives and has some troubles with bad spirits. The girls struggle with math. The stove may or may not be broken. And a tragic death impacts negotiations.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Mar 2, 2017 • 11:30
Episode One: The Aftershow (w/ Tamie McGranahan, Sue Tortolani)
Long-time friends of Josh and fans of the letters, Tamie & Sue, stop by to talk about their introductions to the letters.Plus: Tamie reads some of her own landlord correspondence; and Sue's cat weighs in.
Mar 2, 2017 • 58:10
Episode One | Lists 1 & 2
Karen moves into her new apartment with a list of deductions she's ready to make from her rent. Ellen writes Mark about her hopes and dreams for her new home.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/3588207/advertisement
Mar 2, 2017 • 11:48