In this conversation, Robin Seyr interviews V4BTC (Tony), a cybersecurity expert and advocate for Bitcoin self-custody. V4BTC shares his aha moment for Bitcoin, which came after witnessing the devastating collapse of Lebanon's banking system. He emphasizes the importance of self-custody and privacy in Bitcoin, providing guidance on hardware wallets and peer-to-peer buying. V4BTC discusses the risks of leaving Bitcoin on exchanges and the need for individuals to take control of their own wealth. He envisions a future where Bitcoin self-custody is the norm and fiat currency loses its monopoly. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the potential impact of a Bitcoin ETF. Takeaways Bitcoin self-custody is crucial for preserving financial freedom and protecting wealth. Privacy tools, such as coinjoin, can enhance the privacy and security of Bitcoin transactions. Leaving Bitcoin on exchanges poses risks, including the potential loss of funds if the exchange is hacked or goes bankrupt. Mass adoption of Bitcoin self-custody will likely occur as people experience the limitations and risks of the fiat system. The approval of a Bitcoin ETF could increase awareness and adoption of Bitcoin, but self-custody remains the most secure option. Chapters 0:00 Introduction and Technical Setup 3:15 Aha Moment for Bitcoin 8:07 Background and Experience in Cybersecurity 9:21 Getting Started with Bitcoin Self-Custody 12:07 Privacy and No-KYC in Bitcoin 16:09 Risks of Leaving Bitcoin on Exchanges 22:23 Mass Adoption of Bitcoin Self-Custody 23:38 The Future of Fiat Currency 28:42 The Importance of Dignity and Freedom 37:18 The Impact of a Bitcoin ETF 41:10 Core Principle: Dignity and Freedom 44:29 Conclusion and Shoutout