Our new guest Erik Wirsing is not only a passionate break dancer, but he is also the vice president of the global innovation department at DB Schenker. Do logistics and innovation go together at all? Exactly this question arose from a survey and resulted in the founding of the innovation department at DB Schenker. With great success. The Innovation Lab has now existed for 7 years, which is longer than most labs do in average! And all according to the motto: Hungry for innovation!   What can you expect in this episode?   Why is break-dancing creative? How does DB Schenker foster creativity? Do they already have successes to report? What was his most creative creation? And why is it about combing savoy and lighthouse? Why do Labs only last six years on average?  We look forward to hearing about your experiences and your opinion. Feel free to write us a comment or directly on LinkedIn.