What does it mean to build something "in the spirit of Bitcoin"? Pablo and Gigi want to encourage you to apply for SEC-05. Books & websites mentioned: Stackoverflow is dead by Gergely Orosz Sovereign Engineering by Gigi and Pablo In this dialogue: Gigi's vibeline & vibeline-ui Pubcastr aka castr.me  Pablo's thread about TENEX  Alex Gleason's MKStack  What is the essence of nostr?  What are nostr's values, and can LLMs extract them?  Agents and workflows living on nostr  Agent specialization and Roo code  “What would Jesus do?” What does it mean to build something "in the spirit of Bitcoin"?  Hierarchy of agents  Generalists vs specialists  Top-down constraints and bottom-up emergence  Wise architects VS efficient diff-merging LLMs  Where does the human fit in?  Distributed cognition: agents and humans Hiring agents via nostr  "If the human has to intervene, something is catastrophically wrong." Confidence levels of an agent's action  Giving agents money using mcp-money  Offering bounties to solve problems  Stackoverflow is dead Stock photography is dead  Real vs fake photography test Vibe-coding vs regular coding, and how it relates to the switch from analog to digital photography  What is economical, and what isn't?  Dialogue and Dia-Logos with LLMs  Specialization in a multi-agent world  Adding a small vibe-coding widget to every app (allowing users to customize stuff)  Multiplicity VS canonical design  Money is singular, language is not  Jack's original sin: the twitter Bootstrap theme The "other stuff" initiative What's missing from TENEX? Why isn't it fully working just yet?  Rebuilding everything every 3 weeks Voice vs text, sentiment analysis vs tone The power and informational density of silence In-person vs online communication Letting agents learn lessons "Where do you get your ideas from?" Anonymity vs pseudonyms vs government ID Agents need identity, money, and reputation "I own this dude." —Pablo Owning agents Vibe-coding lessons: don't look at the code, and in the best case don't even look at the IDE Human-agent communication: typing vs speaking Why some meetings couldn't have been an email Clearly defined problems vs undefined problem spaces Why TENEX will be in perpetual alpha What is Sovereign Engineering? Why should you sign up for it?  How come so many awesome things came out of it? Blossom, nsite, Zapstore, etc. Who should come, and who shouldn't? How did it start? What's the idea?  "Fix the money, fix the internet." "Ship stuff that lasts." Keep it pure. No monetization.  Focus on exploration and ideation  What's the structure?  6 weeks, 21 participants Same structure every week Monday Mornings: Orientation Tuesday Talks Wednesday Workshops Thursday: No Agenda Friday: Demo Day Weekend: Hikes SEC-05: YOLO Mode Empower users Optimize for self-sovereignty Bitcoin works Lightning works (Gigi's post)  Build the future you want to see  Madeira: you can pay in bitcoin almost everywhere  tl;dr: Listen to every single No Solutions conversation to get an idea of what Sovereign Engineering is