Today I sit down with my longtime friend Sly Goomba for an unfiltered conversation about identity, debt, sovereignty, and faith. We trace our early Bitcoin zealotry, why the label “Bitcoiner” feels empty today, and how paper Bitcoin, institutions, and interest-rate theater shape people’s behavior far more than we want to admit. From credit-card traps to mortgages, we wrestle with whether rates even matter, what it means to keep your word, and how to build a life that isn’t brittle. We get personal about marriages stressed by conviction, why Bitcoin often wrecks before it refines, and why real upgrades start with loving yourself and pursuing a relationship with God. We talk about building sturdier structures—community, study, and service—through things like BitDevs and honest education, and we land on a simple charge: stop LARPing, tell the truth, and become the kind of person strong enough to fix a little bit of the world.'High Hash Rate' podcast: https://highhashrate.com'Rock Paper Bitcoin' podcast: https://rockpaperbitcoin.comBitDevs (NYC and global meetups): https://bitdevs.orgChaincode Labs (NYC BitDevs host): https://chaincode.comZeus Wallet (Lightning): https://zeusln.appMagic Johnson (official site): https://www.magicjohnson.comBible (New Testament online): https://www.biblegateway.com