"The identity should be outside of the computer." hzrd149 & Gigi contemplate local relays. Libraries & apps mentioned: Applesauce Boris Citrine nostr-relay-tray In this dialogue: Automation & robot armies If this than that (IFTTT) Permissioned vs permissionless automation Self-hosting and the local-first people "The identity should be outside of the computer" Private vs public, local vs remote DRM and other nonsense Private means encrypted with my key Nostr apps should be local-first, thanks to local relays All nostr apps should work in flight mode, somewhat Outbox model, writing, and reading  Search & NIP-50  Ants & thisishowyougetants.com  6 degrees of separation & FoaF WoT  Friend list curation & "circles"  "Don't touch my follow list" Bootstrapping a network by saying GM a lot Recommendations usually suck Nostr can shine Vertex & figuring out who John is NIP-05 & realness Root-level domains & realness (e.g. @dergigi.com) Zaps & realness Nutzaps & realness  Local-first & local algorithms  nostrdb VS local relays  Local data & relevancy  noDNS, locality, local preference, and "good enough"  Mostly online vs mostly offline  "Servers aren't bad. Getting rugpulled is bad." "Information is easy to spread but hard to stifle"  Local hubs, community hubs, global hubs "nostr was built for broadcasting"  Building stuff badly & nerd-sniping people Gigi's ants video  Walking in circles  DM metadata leakage  "It shouldn't matter where the data comes from"  "Deleting data is a lie"  The impossibility of proving deletion  Bitrot & data loss Fighting bitrot with duplication & rebroadcasting  Bouquet, blossom, and self-healing links Local-first vs local-also  Left-side of the bellcurve CDN  The one whale relay  Topic-based relays  fiatjaf's pyramid relay Torrents, early video content, game installers  fiatjaf’s take on IPFS  Why not rebuild Cloudflare?  Censorship-resistance = 100% uptime = no rugpulls  Getting offered weed on the streets  Every app works in flight mode No developer needs an API key  "The data accumulates where it needs to accumulate"  Browser history as an example of local data & user interests  WoT is kinda local  wot.dergigi.com  Blossom is different; blobs are heavy  American HODL's vlogs  "Step 1 is to build a shitty version"  HAVEN  Nostr Repair Kit (Nostr pacemaker)  Shout-out to Pablo's highlighter (fucking hell)  Open-source & scratching your own itch  Applesauce v4 "It's almost done" - famous last words!  Outbox in applesauce, and how it makes everything more difficult  Waves, routstr, Pete, Justin, Paul, Gzuuus  Hzrd's SEC-05 highlights  noDNS Wally & Cashu Wallet Connect  Crazy idea => Consensus => Implementation  Difference between idea & implementation "Domains are shitcoins"  We've been living in a post-domain world for a while  Independent browsers & project Ladybird  Nostr-native browser - who will build it?  "A different way of doing internet infrastructure"  Is a world without APIs possible?  Mainframe => Personal Computer => Smartphones  Online sometimes => Offline sometimes  Local LLMs Nostr allows you to build less Thin layers & special-purpose apps  NIP-60 and finding spare change under the couch  Does negentropy fix NIP-60 synchronization?  Nostr is synergistic  The beauty of nostr-relay-tray Nostr works. We've come far! It's all coming together Boris "You can always go back and build it right" Just begin again. Just begin again. Just begin again. Recorded at 917,886.