In this very special block, I sit down with Giacomo Zucco… Bitcoin educator, entrepreneur, Cypher Tank judge, and, yes, my husband.

This conversation is personal, funny, chaotic, and deeply connected to Bitcoin history.

We start by looking back at some of the most meaningful “blocks” we have shared together since 2001, both in our personal life and in Bitcoin. Giacomo recalls one of the most important moments: the 2016 meeting in Milan that brought together several Lightning Network startups and implementations. That meeting helped lead to the BOLT specifications, also known at the time as the Milan Protocol, a key moment in the history of Lightning Network interoperability.

We also talk about one of our latest adventures together: Cypher Tank. We discuss the origin & the future of Cypher Tank

We also reflect on Lugano and the next four years of the Plan ₿ initiative. Giacomo explains what it feels like to be part of a city where Bitcoin is openly supported, where institutions are willing to listen, and where the community has grown from a handful of people to hundreds gathering around Bitcoin culture, education, and entrepreneurship.

Finally, the conversation gets more personal and random… As always, of course.

This episode is about Bitcoin history, building things before they are perfect, working with your partner, creating formats from scratch, and being part of something much bigger than yourself.