Apologies listeners,The wrong accidentally uploaded the wrong audio in the last episode post. That episode has now been taken down, and this is now "THE REAL" Chat_135!Sorry to keep you guys hanging on this one, which is a truly fantastic episode.Enjoy!***"I think there's a very clear distinction between inflation and hyperinflation.One is a rational response to an increase in the money supply. Right? So if the money supply is increasing by 10%, you increase the price of your assets by 10%. That's inflation.Now, hyperinflation is emotional. Hyperinflation is a forced liquidation of your assets and your currency. And you're doing a market sell order not knowing what the price of sale is. You just want out. You will take anything."~ Mauricio Di Bartolomeo Mauricio Di Bartolomeo’s story starts with the collapse of Venezuela, but it’s not one of defeat — it’s about resilience, conviction, and building tools for sovereignty. In this conversation, we talk about why Ledn is returning to its Bitcoin-only roots, why the crypto lending space is headed for trouble, and what it actually takes to survive a bear market. Mauricio shares how mining Bitcoin helped his family escape hyperinflation, why capital controls are more familiar to most of the world than freedom, and what makes a good lender when the tide goes out. We also dig into why removing features can be a sign of strength, not weakness — and how building slowly, honestly, and with proof of reserves can sometimes be the real edge. Bitcoin Audible & Guy Swann Links ⁠Guy on Nostr ⁠(Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xc96ney) ⁠Guy on X ⁠(Link: https://twitter.com/theguyswann) Guy on Instagram (Link: https://www.instagram.com/theguyswann) Guy on TikTok (Link: https://www.tiktok.com/@theguyswann) Guy on YouTube (Link: https://www.youtube.com/@theguyswann) ⁠Bitcoin Audible on X⁠ (Link: https://twitter.com/BitcoinAudible) The Guy Swann Network Broadcast Room on Keet (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3na6v839) Check out our awesome sponsors! HRF: Subscribe for free to HRF's Financial Freedom Report to stay updated on our latest work advancing freedom tech and defending human rights around the world. (Link: https://hrf.org/financial-freedom-reports/)